Toast Cam Guthrie

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LawnMosey said:
I actually checked out Geelong's top 5 players in the AFLCA award last year to see how it lined up against the Carji, thinking they would bear no resemblance...

Top 5 for Geelong in the AFLCA:
Guthrie
Selwood/Motlop
Blicavs
Enright

Top 5 in the Carji:
Blicavs
Motlop
Selwood
Enright
Guthrie

You appear to have a valid point. Would you accept top 3?
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Without a doubt. Hawkins and Taylor not quite consistent enough to challenge Guthrie who is having a monumentally good season.
 
Partridge said:
Funny how we see things. I see Guthrie as every bit as talented as Menzel, and more talented than Caddy.
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Yeah, it is. My reasoning is this:
Menzel was always an incredible power athlete with great natural flair and goal-sense from day one. In our 2011 mid-year victory against Collingwood, I remember Menzel managing to use brute explosive power to win a one-on-one with Dane Swan - then the best contested player in the league - and hoisting it forward for the winning sausage. Teammates spoke about how strong he was for a mid-sized footballer and it also showed in his leap. His evasive skills were great from day dot, too.

Caddy I really mention for - among other things - his draft position (7th), his obvious body strength from day one, and his excellent hand-eye coordination as well as natural spring in taking good contested marks from an early age.

While Guthrie wasn't a late pick by any means (mid-20s, I think), he wasn't a first-rounder like those two, nor did he have the buzz around him that they did. The other two were playing excellent AFL-standard games of footy by their second season (Menzel in particular, sob) - Guthrie was finding his feet in a back pocket. He didn't have the AFL-sized body that the other two did, until he started 2014 noticeably bigger than before. He's also never had the leap of Caddy or Menzel.

Above all, though, my main point is that he started behind those two in terms of output and football abilities, and while Caddy plateaued for a while and Menzel has been crocked, Guthrie has shown incredibly consistent, linear year-on-year improvement. That's unusual among footballers and speaks testament to hard work.
 

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#GuthrieInWhereEverHeIsNeeded :p
 
Needs to work on those first few steps of explosiveness, as he still gets caught a few times, but wow, his improvement is phenomenal and hes a great support to Dangerfield and Selwood.
Not elite but very very very good
 
I'll never forget a game where he was playing VFL when he first began and we had Christensen, Duncan running around with him at that stage.
It was a tight game with only minutes remaining and the manor in which he was trying to will the team over the finish line was the type of stuff you pick on and see as future champion material. He almost took a pack mark around forward fifty which would have resulted in having the final shot for goal but it wasn't to be. Nevertheless, you could see he had 'it' and it's no surprise he's gone on to become a very good footballer.
 
The main thing that's impressed me with Guthrie from the very beginning is his composure when he has the ball. Even very early on, he always looked like he had time when he had the ball to assess all the options, and make the best decision in disposing of the ball.

I think that sort of composure under pressure can't be taught, and is the hallmark of very good player. It's like time slows down momentarily when they've got the ball, so they have time to decide what to do with it.

And unfortunately this is where some of our other young players, like Smedts and Murdoch, have fallen down in the past - they've looked very panicky under pressure and seemingly choose the wrong option because they just don't think quickly enough.
 
Was allright. Played nearly as well in the midfield as a couple of sub 10 gamers.
How's that for a backhanded compliment!
But he was actually preety good despite a couple of his trademark efforts.
 

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Whatever you overly hard task-masters want to say about him, he is a very good player, easily a B grader, and easily best 12, which in our current team, is a statement.
 
Vdubs said:
Today, best 6, overall, I'd be selecting him best 12.
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You missed the third quarter when he gave up the chase on Devon Smith?
 
Cockarfitt said:
You missed the third quarter when he gave up the chase on Devon Smith?
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Saw it, commented on it, looked as if they were both thinking they would not get him. But that'd be the only thing you saw from Cam. Care to comment on the excellent things he did? You look for a single poor effort, find it, and salivate??
 
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Vdubs said:
Saw it, commented on it, looked as if they were both thinking they would net get him. But that'd be the only thing you saw from Cam. Care to comment on the excellent things he did? You look for a single poor effort, find it, and salivate??
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Na he was quite good today but those things along with the one handed tackle attempts need to be eradicated completely.
 
Seeds said:
I see danger, selwood and ablett give up on chases multiple times every game. What is your point? He has 22 tackles in 3 games. Arguable one of the best tacklers in the team right now.
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I don't like Guthrie. He's feminine looking and it's shit's me. That's my point.
 
Cockarfitt said:
I don't like Guthrie. He's feminine looking and it's ****'s me. That's my point.
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So? You don't have to date him. Just acknowledge that despite his appearances, he is a highly valuable Cats player. Which you nearly did earlier on.
 
He has done nothing but impress me since coming back into the team this year, thought Zac did his job as well today.
 

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