Cameron Cloke Leaving.

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gandaal said:
SEN apparently said he's walked out on the club but that's SEN and nothing else has been said.

So at this stage he'll be with the club next year, which is what we want given Fevola is gone.
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He is gone.

Club accepted the fact that he'll be going to Port a while back. I personally don't blame him for leaving either, considering he's been offered more money for a longer deal with more opportunities.

I'm not sure why it hasn't come out in the media yet but you would think it'll be out in the open soon enough.
 
XXX KINGS said:
He is gone.

Club accepted the fact that he'll be going to Port a while back. I personally don't blame him for leaving either, considering he's been offered more money for a longer deal with more opportunities.

I'm not sure why it hasn't come out in the media yet but you would think it'll be out in the open soon enough.
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I cant see how we can list him, unless we are going to be creative. We have 3 spots left, and picks 8,9,16. We wont use any of these picks on him. So either we anticipate someone else will retire (Carr) or be delisted (???) I'm at a loss to see how it could be done.
 

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The Old Dark Navy's said:
If you want to snipe about moderating in future, you probably need to be prepared to follow through in order to be taken seriously.
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If you hadn't taken it seriously you wouldn't have gone searching.

No person I know would happily volunteer information about their former online persona when unfair practices had been carried out towards them previously. All revealing that would do would be let a connection be made and let the instigators of those practices come up with some excuse for more of the same treatment.

ie: I would have to be a glutton for punishment to even consider telling you what you request.


I again reiterate that I merely disagreed with your initial statement, and so much has been proven via a lack of action. If you think I would simply invent this whole scenario for some stupid reason then you'd probably better think again.
 
My Blues said:
If you hadn't taken it seriously you wouldn't have gone searching.

No person I know would happily volunteer information about their former online persona when unfair practices had been carried out towards them previously. All revealing that would do would be let a connection be made and let the instigators of those practices come up with some excuse for more of the same treatment.

ie: I would have to be a glutton for punishment to even consider telling you what you request.


I again reiterate that I merely disagreed with your initial statement, and so much has been proven via a lack of action. If you think I would simply invent this whole scenario for some stupid reason then you'd probably better think again.
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Seriously mate, its got to the point where you either need to put up or shut up... If you give him your old name then he can research it and see why you were banned.. If you didnt do anything wrong the he will have a very hard time explaining it, and who knows you might get an apollogy... But by not supplying it tells me you have something to hide and you dont want the reasons brought back up as it proves you deserved it... Either way you havent done anything wrong with your new username, so im sure you wont be banned as it would make the mods out to be unfair.
Instead of this back and forward BS, man up and give him yr old name so it can be sorted... Or else shut up and leave this thread to Cameron Cloke talk..
 
My Blues said:
If you hadn't taken it seriously you wouldn't have gone searching.

No person I know would happily volunteer information about their former online persona when unfair practices had been carried out towards them previously. All revealing that would do would be let a connection be made and let the instigators of those practices come up with some excuse for more of the same treatment.

ie: I would have to be a glutton for punishment to even consider telling you what you request.


I again reiterate that I merely disagreed with your initial statement, and so much has been proven via a lack of action. If you think I would simply invent this whole scenario for some stupid reason then you'd probably better think again.
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You have called into question the integrity of a super mod and you are wondering why he is looking into it.
Seriously mate ODN has better things to do.
Either leave the past in the past or come clean. Nobody really cares. This forum/thread is not about you!
 
Malibu#27 said:
I cant see how we can list him, unless we are going to be creative. We have 3 spots left, and picks 8,9,16. We wont use any of these picks on him. So either we anticipate someone else will retire (Carr) or be delisted (???) I'm at a loss to see how it could be done.
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Delist Josh Carr and then draft him as a mature-age rookie. Still meets his contract payments, and he's effectively on stand-by in case of injury, which is about where he's at now. He's the most likely choice as no club will draft him before our last pick in the rookie draft.
 
Ytoojae said:
If the two teams had have started discussions earlier Pavlich very may well have become a Blue.

I can't confirm or deny this but what I had heard Fremantle asked for Hampson, Walker and our first round pick.

I wouldn't put any money on it, but that one came from more than just Andy Maher.
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If that were true you would think Carlton would take that deal. We were wanting to trade Walker anyway so adding Hampson and Pick 12 for Pav would be a great deal. As much as I love the Hamma and can see him being a great player I would be prepared to sacrifice him to gain Pav. (Much like losing Kennedy to get Judd)
 
RodneyEade said:
If that were true you would think Carlton would take that deal. We were wanting to trade Walker anyway so adding Hampson and Pick 12 for Pav would be a great deal. As much as I love the Hamma and can see him being a great player I would be prepared to sacrifice him to gain Pav. (Much like losing Kennedy to get Judd)
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:rolleyes:

I can see it now, Carlton consisting of a handful of aging veterans assisted by a regional netball side.
 
RodneyEade said:
If that were true you would think Carlton would take that deal. We were wanting to trade Walker anyway so adding Hampson and Pick 12 for Pav would be a great deal. As much as I love the Hamma and can see him being a great player I would be prepared to sacrifice him to gain Pav. (Much like losing Kennedy to get Judd)
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Geez:eek:Am i seriously glad you have nothing to do with trade negotiations.

:shakesheadindisbelief:
 
Malibu#27 said:
I cant see how we can list him, unless we are going to be creative. We have 3 spots left, and picks 8,9,16. We wont use any of these picks on him. So either we anticipate someone else will retire (Carr) or be delisted (???) I'm at a loss to see how it could be done.
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Not sure exactly what Port's plans are but they have said that they are looking to draft a mature age ruckman (Cloke can kind of be considered a ruckman) and I assume that means in the PSD

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port-looks-at-tigersruckman/story-e6frf9jf-1225794295592
 
My Blues said:
If you hadn't taken it seriously you wouldn't have gone searching.

No person I know would happily volunteer information about their former online persona when unfair practices had been carried out towards them previously. All revealing that would do would be let a connection be made and let the instigators of those practices come up with some excuse for more of the same treatment.

ie: I would have to be a glutton for punishment to even consider telling you what you request.


I again reiterate that I merely disagreed with your initial statement, and so much has been proven via a lack of action. If you think I would simply invent this whole scenario for some stupid reason then you'd probably better think again.
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For all intents and purposes if I were a mod I would have banned you again by now. Why? You've obviously been permanently banned from this forum in the past so why are you back here now?

The only chance that you have to be welcome here after all you've said and done is to put up or shut up. If you don't reveal who you were in a former BigFooty lifetime then you're asking to be banned again.

What's stopping you from creating another username? Absolutely nothing. However, if you want to post on here you were more than welcome to (before you brought up your past), but what you're posting has nothing at all to do with the Carlton Football Club nor Cameron Cloke which is the thread in which you have hijacked.

Please, if you have no interest in revealing this information then please go and find your hole and remain there. You've obviously made your bed, now lay in it!

As far as the Pav talks go-- I think Carlton were bang on in NOT taking the trade. Hampson and Walker are two pieces who will be around for much of the next decade (Walker at least 5-6 years, Hampson the decade). That and the first round pick which with our recruitment has been wonderful as of late and you're looking at eliminating three (at worst) role players from the Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer 'new era Blues' prime to have a shot at winning it in the now? I don't think so.

Pavlich to me hasn't proven that he's a game winner. He's a fantastic player but he's not the type who has ever turned a game on it's head and won it for you. Part of that is the fact that he hasn't ever had much talent around him, another is that he's not all that he's been hyped up to be. He doesn't win games in a way that Fevola did and by giving up Hampson, Walker and the pick we got from Brisbane for Fevola we're giving up twice as much as we got for Fevola. Are you kidding me? That's a walkover steal of a trade for the Dockers.

If Fevola, cash and our 2nd rounder is worth Henderson and #12 - a trade which Carlton fans in general (minus the disappointment in losing Brendan Fevola) view as an equitable trade how in your right mind can you convince the Carlton fan base that Pavlich is worth so much more (Hampson, Walker and #12)? Look at it like this -- Brendan Fevola, Shaun Hampson, Andrew Walker and our second round pick for Pavlich and Henderson? If Carlton had have made that trade they'd deserve to be shot.

There's a reason why Pavlich has never been successful.
 

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My Blues said:
Not likely. Didn't you know mods are never wrong? That goes about quadruple at BF.


Hey, he took it off topic not me. He can state when he wants it to go back on topic at any time
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They should ban people that behave like a tool. In fact the sooner they once again ban you the better. This became boring a long time ago
 
thylacine60 said:
Anyone does the boring round here it's me thanks very much! :):cool:
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My Blues said:
If you hadn't taken it seriously you wouldn't have gone searching.
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You would rather I dismissed you from the outset? No, it was when you carried it on without providing proof, that I decided you weren't to be taken seriously.

No person I know would happily volunteer information about their former online persona when unfair practices had been carried out towards them previously. All revealing that would do would be let a connection be made and let the instigators of those practices come up with some excuse for more of the same treatment.
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Good luck with that persecution complex. Nobody knows you but they are all out to get you huh?

ie: I would have to be a glutton for punishment to even consider telling you what you request.
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No you are much better off persistently accusing me of something I have no evidence of, making me think you are being deliberately annoying.

I again reiterate that I merely disagreed with your initial statement, and so much has been proven via a lack of action.
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What action would you like me to take? Something allegedly occurred. I won't tell you when it occurred, who it involved ... but I want you to take action. It has now entered the realms of comedy.

If you think I would simply invent this whole scenario for some stupid reason then you'd probably better think again.
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No, I think just like every other person infracted on BF, you lack objectivity to recognise any wrongdoing on your part, but then I am free to think that since you have given me nothing else to go on.

Hey, he took it off topic not me. He can state when he wants it to go back on topic at any time
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No I think you took it off topic when you first entered the thread to question my integrity without a shred of evidence. Selective memory.

Funny thing is rather than genuinely trying to sort it out, you continued to throw mud and make your new username more in the collective conscience.

I can't think why arguing with and disrespecting moderators might push their buttons, can you?
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
Good luck with that persecution complex. Nobody knows you but they are all out to get you huh?

No you are much better off persistently accusing me of something I have no evidence of, making me think you are being deliberately annoying.

Blah, Blah, Blah...
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Honestly, after your explanation of the crap you mods have to deal with (i had no idea how much) I can understand your position. BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WHY ENCOURAGE HIM????? You are spamming this thread!!

I don't wanna push my luck here but you are becoming the very thing you are speaking out against (taking things on face value etc).

Nuff said :)
 
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