Carlton player Liam Jones refusing vax - Update: Jones retires from AFL

[Sky]

Its all to do with being afraid. If you werent you wouldnt give 2 shits who else is vaccinated if you are. Why would you care. No one logical GAF...

Afraid is one part of it yes. Speaking as someone who waited till yesterday to get the first jab.. the main part was trying to differentiate my hatred of the government & science being science. They’re two completely different fights and I was looking at them as one because **** being told what to do.

 

[Corrupt_]

Sam Docherty, recovering from cancer treatment, is exactly the kind of person who is at added risk because of their impacted immune system.

And yet, someone at Carlton is more self obsessed in their own vaccine fears, because they've read some memes on Facebook.

Pathetic.

Sam Docherty is also recovering from Vaccine injury.

 

[Virgin Dog]

What are the side effects of the latest mobile phone you bought and use every day right beside you’re brain
Long term you have no idea but you still use it because to the best of peoples current knowledge it’s safe
Same with the vaccine in the history of vaccines no side effects have ever shown up after 4 weeks

I've downed enough jaegerbombs in my time to know I have no right to question the long term side effects of ingesting a product that is actually being endorsed by the worlds' greatest scientific minds.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

I think it’s a bit unfair to be putting up a photo of him with a tinfoil hat on yet there is no proof he is the player in question

Oh my

 

[Shadow89]

What a lazy and generic attempt at humour. Big difference between not wanting a vaccine that no one knows the long term side affects and being a full blown conspiracy theorist.

wow you must watch a lot of cnn

Hi Liam

 

[The 747]

It’s their choice at the end of the day

Sure, it is.

 

[Bostonian]

No ones scared, we just want to punish that actively obstruct societal progression and put others at risk. If it's a fringe player they'll delist, but be funny if it was Sam Walsh. Not that it seems likely, he seems like a good kid.

Is casboult still on the list?

Why do the so called progressives always sound like nasty shitty little authoritarians?

 

[Xtreme]

Good on him for standing up for what he believes in.

 

[brovedm]

Why do the so called progressives always sound like nasty shitty little authoritarians?

Because it’s their opinion or no opinion and they’re extremely self righteous

 

[RUNVS]

Good on him for standing up for what he believes in.

He can stand up for what he believes in but he can't then complain when his contract is torn up.

 

[xmarksthespot]

What a lazy and generic attempt at humour. Big difference between not wanting a vaccine that no one knows the long term side affects and being a full blown conspiracy theorist.

wow you must watch a lot of cnn

Just on the 'long term effects' concern, whilst I understand the skeptism around the speed of bringing these particular vaccines to market, the underlying technology (in vivo delivery of COVID-19 spike protein mRNA delivered via lipase nanoparticles) has been around since the 90s. We have been studying mRNA since the early 60s. The majority of the heavy lifting on this technology was developed off the back of previous corona-virus epidemics, such as MERS and SARS (some might argue that they were unncessarily moth-balled and that cost valuable time in developing the COVID-19 vaccine). So the technology isn't as 'new' and 'unproven' as you might think

I do acknowledge there are no long term studies on these particular vaccines as of yet however.

 

[GuzzLG]

Why do the so called progressives always sound like nasty shitty little authoritarians?

Diversity and inclusion has become conformity and segregation

 

[1990crow]

Good on him for standing up for what he believes in.

Believes in being unemployed, unable to go to the local supermarket, pub or fly on a plane.
At least he's allowed to bum out on his couch in a home detention situation.

 

[H00t]

Over 5 million people dead. Many more people than that only still alive because of respirators. Countless people that will suffer the long term effects of COVID for the rest of their life.

Yet people still think a vaccine that has been proven effective with minimal side effects is somehow much worse.

 

[RUNVS]

Why do the so called progressives always sound like nasty shitty little authoritarians?

Perhaps because we are against people dying needlessly.

 

[1990crow]

Over 5 million people dead. Many more people than that only still alive because of respirators. Countless people that will suffer the long term effects of COVID for the rest of their life.

Yet people still think a vaccine that has been proven effective with minimal side effects is somehow much worse.

The dregs of society.

 

[Sellout Scully]

This thread is going exactly as expected

 

[Two Planks]

Why do the so called progressives always sound like nasty shitty little authoritarians?

Because the left only believe in hating when it's the left doing the hating.

 

[RUNVS]

Doesn't want to get forced in to a medical procedure so banned from buying food.

Sounds reasonable.

I think you are stretching the definition of "medical procedure" given that all it is is a needle that is in and out of your arm in under 5 seconds.

 

[1990crow]

Doesn't want to get forced in to a medical procedure so banned from buying food.

Sounds reasonable.

People like him are spreaders of a deadly virus. So yes, it is in societies interest to not let these people roam around.

 

[Sky]

Believes in being unemployed, unable to go to the local supermarket, pub or fly on a plane.
At least he's allowed to bum out on his couch in a home detention situation.

Prison is better than living at an aged facility and most of us end up there. Two places I’ve spent a lot of time in before I was even 21.

 

[ioppolo]

People like him are spreaders of a deadly virus. So yes, it is in societies interest to not let these people roam around.

Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit it. A number of premiers (including my own) have said so.

 

[1990crow]

Prison is better than living at an aged facility and most of us end up there. Two places I’ve spent a lot of time in before I was even 21.

So what you're saying is when we all turn 70 we should rob a bank.

 

[RUNVS]

Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit it. A number of premiers (including my own) have said so.

Yes they can, but generally speaking the effects are far lower if you are vaccinated. In saying that vaccinated people can and still are dying but the majority of the population over 16 is vaccinated and the majority of people currently in hospital due to Covid are not.

 

[RUNVS]

Ok then ban overeating and motor vehicles.

Cars have a pretty obvious benefit to society. What benefit does Covid have to society?