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unmarried sex and gang bangs are slightly different, but i wont trouble you with the nuances of bedroom politics here...
If the people involved in said gang are unmarried, then yes it can be be the same thing. Also, could you please provide the evidence you have that proves it was a 'gang bang'?

Also, I find this whole discussion baffling. Saying that we should drop the claim of "innocent until proven guilty" for any crime is outright ridiculous. I mean, Christ, this is the basis of our entire legal system! It's a human right that is rigidly enforced by all countries of the free world; to get rid of it all based on a single statistic is so utterly stupid that it can't be properly put into words.
 
from urban dictionary...

"Gang Bang
1) An orgy with one female. "

are you suggesting there were multiple females in the room?
 

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The law according to Soho.

I think Caro is a witch.

So what we should do is burn her. If she lives, then I'll know she's a witch and she will be condemned forever.

If she dies, then I'll know I was wrong and I'll apologise but I won't be able to bring her back.

Odd justice isn't it.
 
from urban dictionary...

"Gang Bang
1) An orgy with one female. "

are you suggesting there were multiple females in the room?
An "orgy" is very commonly seen as involving a lot more than three people. Saying "gang bang" implies there were more people there than those known to have been involved.
 
Anyone else heard the rumours about a now senior female footy journalist who got up to all sorts of things on a tour of Ireland?

Maybe Caro could look into that one?

I'd actually tap Caro given the chance. A mention of our Premiership during the vinegar stroke would be in order though.
 
I'd actually tap Caro given the chance. A mention of our Premiership during the vinegar stroke would be in order though.
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RARELY have the double thtandardth at play in the AFL'th internal dthiplinary thythtem been tho expothed ath they have over the patht fortnight, onthe it became clear that Collingwood'th premiership thelebrationth had been well and truly tarnished by a packrape allegation.
The handling of thith dreadful thituation by both the AFL and the Magpieth thince the accuthationth by a 20-year-old female thtudent came to light leth than 48 hourth after the dethiding grand final, hath been - to be generouth - perplecthing.
 
RARELY have the double thtandardth at play in the AFL'th internal dthiplinary thythtem been tho expothed ath they have over the patht fortnight, onthe it became clear that Collingwood'th premiership thelebrationth had been well and truly tarnished by a packrape allegation.
The handling of thith dreadful thituation by both the AFL and the Magpieth thince the accuthationth by a 20-year-old female thtudent came to light leth than 48 hourth after the dethiding grand final, hath been - to be generouth - perplecthing.


Thank you Plogs, DThomas and Collin, needed a good laugh \ Too funny!!
 
Just read this article without seeing who wrote it first. Wanted inform the Age that they should get rid of the imbecile who wrote this unprofessional drivel... cannot believe someone so senior would put their name on such rubbish.

Pack Rape? Has this developed into an allegation of pack rape now? What vitriolic language - and irresponsible - made one think of the Bulldogs NRL debacle..

The conniving way she associated our incident to murrays that is far more progressed...

And the relevance of Mick Malthouses heated exchange? A mistake sure but not a public comment...

I hope Eddie just lets her flaming have it and she loses her job
 
people people why give her the satisfaction on giving her attention she doesnt deserve, its an obvious article from a person who craves attention and what better way to do that ? Write about collingwood in a negative way. it obviously burns deep inside her that we are premiers given her history with eddie and mick. what ever happens in the investigation happens, we wernt there we wouldnt know, let the police do their work and what will be will be. just remember people COLLINGWOOD PREMIERS 2010 :D
 
WTF!!!! since when is a gangbang illegal?

God bless the girls that contribute :)

Rape on the other hand :(

Innocent until proven guilty you slag Caro.

We still have the cup :p
 

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:mad: sick to death of journo's and trolls etc trying to wipe the grin off the face of us collingwood people, If something illegal went down so be it when the time comes we will deal with it, but, hellloooo!! does she know exactly what our players did ? was she there was she ? or is one of her sources a fly on a south melb wall? please!!!
As I said all these things will be dealt with if something illegal went down but whether it did or didn't, listen here you anti-collingwood dingbats, the premiers of 2010 = collingwood :) jump up and down , scream and bitch , the premiership is ours :D:D
 
:mad: sick to death of journo's and trolls etc trying to wipe the grin off the face of us collingwood people, If something illegal went down so be it when the time comes we will deal with it, but, hellloooo!! does she know exactly what our players did ? was she there was she ? or is one of her sources a fly on a south melb wall? please!!!
As I said all these things will be dealt with if something illegal went down but whether it did or didn't, listen here you anti-collingwood dingbats, the premiers of 2010 = collingwood :) jump up and down , scream and bitch , the premiership is ours :D:D

Chill dayna the gutter press is always there and the dingbats have been around since the '30 and aren't going anywhere so be like the satisfied kitten and lick the cream off your paws, use the gutter rag as ur litter liner and curl up for a nice nap.
 
... rape did occur and the players named are guilty...
If this alone doesn't warrant a red card , then what does? :eek:

If a newspaper printed this, they would be faced with immediate serious legal action on several fronts (e.g. being prejudical to any future possible court case) - as well as an excellent future prospect of being sued for a lot (and in theory at least, if not seemingly in actual practice - so far, the exact same laws apply to internet forums).

Mods - I don't envy the mostly good jobs you do here, but this sort of troll post simply must not be tolerated in any way.

As for Caro - she is suffering bad now, isn't she? Wonder what she thought of the Pies new record sponsorship deal announced today?
 
\If something illegal went down so be it

you see, whether something illegal happened or not is beside the point...

the case will revolve around the collection of evidence and the formalities of the legal process, not whether or not something illegal happened...

thats all ive been saying all along... it doesnt matter whether or not he r*ped her, all that matters is if the police can prove he did so...

and there you have the floor in the system...
 
you see, whether something illegal happened or not is beside the point...

the case will revolve around the collection of evidence and the formalities of the legal process, not whether or not something illegal happened...

thats all ive been saying all along... it doesnt matter whether or not he r*ped her, all that matters is if the police can prove he did so...

and there you have the floor in the system...

No it isn't! You opened by saying they almost certainly r*ped her and that you wouldn't have an issue if they were sacked by the club immediately!

And you have NFI if they even banged her or were just there! That is insane and could only be said by a highly unstable or incredibly dumb person!

The system is flawed no doubt but it is the best system we have! And don't for a minute think people get done for rape when they are innocent either!

It happens!!!

Not as often as guilty people getting off but we live in a society that would prefer to have 100 guilty people acquitted than send 1 innocent person to Jail! And I'm glad we do! As bad as injustice for a crime is, it does not compare to having an innocent person convicted of a crime they did not commit!

I think i know the point you may be trying to make but you have failed so badly in articulating it and have made such completely insane statements that you do far more harm to the victims than if you just STFU and said nothing!
 
No it isn't! You opened by saying they almost certainly r*ped her and that you wouldn't have an issue if they were sacked by the club immediately!

And you have NFI if they even banged her or were just there! That is insane and could only be said by a highly unstable or incredibly dumb person!

The system is flawed no doubt but it is the best system we have! And don't for a minute think people get done for rape when they are innocent either!

It happens!!!

Not as often as guilty people getting off but we live in a society that would prefer to have 100 guilty people acquitted than send 1 innocent person to Jail! And I'm glad we do! As bad as injustice for a crime is, it does not compare to having an innocent person convicted of a crime they did not commit!

I think i know the point you may be trying to make but you have failed so badly in articulating it and have made such completely insane statements that you do far more harm to the victims than if you just STFU and said nothing!
Couldn't agree more freak. SOHO what you propose is nothing less than trial by rope - lynch mob justice. FFS keep your assumptions to yourself and at least try to imitate you believe in justice by law.
 
Couldn't agree more freak. SOHO what you propose is nothing less than trial by rope - lynch mob justice. FFS keep your assumptions to yourself and at least try to imitate you believe in justice by law.

I think Soho didnt explain his point of view as clearly as they could have but your reaction is equally divisive.

If we took the Collingwood players out of the equation for a minute as that has inflammed a lot of views.

Rape is an under reported crime and even when reported convictions are difficult to obtain. Our legal system is not suited to looking after rape victims. Its a harrowing experience and many victims come out wishing they had never reported the crime. On the flip side there are false reports made but this is much less common

I wouldn't comment on this case but the truth of the crime of rape is most perpetrators get off the charges even if they are guilty. Thats a given in any system where the burden of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt".
In rape this is very difficult to prove more so than most other crimes

So there is something in the claims Soho was making even if it wasnt well expressed
 
I think Soho didnt explain his point of view as clearly as they could have but your reaction is equally divisive.

If we took the Collingwood players out of the equation for a minute as that has inflammed a lot of views.

Rape is an under reported crime and even when reported convictions are difficult to obtain. Our legal system is not suited to looking after rape victims. Its a harrowing experience and many victims come out wishing they had never reported the crime. On the flip side there are false reports made but this is much less common

I wouldn't comment on this case but the truth of the crime of rape is most perpetrators get off the charges even if they are guilty. Thats a given in any system where the burden of proof is "beyond reasonable doubt".
In rape this is very difficult to prove more so than most other crimes

So there is something in the claims Soho was making even if it wasnt well expressed

How is asking for punishment and public shaming before a crime is proved or even charges laid 'expressing badly?'

You are still missing the point - it has nothing to do with perps getting off or reasonable doubt I will make this as simple for you as I can

There have been NO charges laid, therefore there are no perps and reasonable doubt doesn't enter the equation.

Her claims of poor justice may well have a foundation but that doesn't give her the right or anyone else the right to maliciously - YES MALICIOUSLY make unfounded criminal accusations against a yet to be charged individual.

What part of 'no charges laid' don't you understand?

Rape is a terrible crime and needs to be punished as harshly as possible but maliciously accusing anyone is just as bad.

Get off the soap box and look at the facts without hysteria.
 

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