Re: Chris Pelchin
how can you? do you know of him personally and what he does?
you have no idea
how can you? do you know of him personally and what he does?
you have no idea
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Re: Chris Pelchin
crap.....you obviously have been involved at that level so you have a full understanding that the coach has no final say on any player....sorry dude you are off the mark
crap.....you obviously have been involved at that level so you have a full understanding that the coach has no final say on any player....sorry dude you are off the mark
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Re: Chris Pelchin
You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
Ever heard of a thing called a book?
They are objects that people used to record information in before the open slather of the reign of the moron in internet forums.
Books have the advantages that:
1. not every moron on the planet with a keyboard and an internet connection can get published
2. they are generally edited and proof read in an attempt to remove glaring errors of fact.
In black and white ...
Emma Qualye's "The Draft", Chapter 4 "Hawthorn" page 20
Do even know what a veto means ???
You really don't know what you are talking about do you?
Ever heard of a thing called a book?
They are objects that people used to record information in before the open slather of the reign of the moron in internet forums.
Books have the advantages that:
1. not every moron on the planet with a keyboard and an internet connection can get published
2. they are generally edited and proof read in an attempt to remove glaring errors of fact.
In black and white ...
Emma Qualye's "The Draft", Chapter 4 "Hawthorn" page 20
Do even know what a veto means ???
Re: Chris Pelchin
Emma Quayle wrote it..woo****enhoo...books are in print and just like engineers who read books become qualified and do everything by the book not knowing that practical sense plays a major part in the decision process...so in essense stick your book where the sun don't shine!
Emma Quayle wrote it..woo****enhoo...books are in print and just like engineers who read books become qualified and do everything by the book not knowing that practical sense plays a major part in the decision process...so in essense stick your book where the sun don't shine!
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Re: Chris Pelchin
Well you are wrong!
... and simply far too ignorant and ill mannered to admit that you were wrong!
Well you are wrong!
... and simply far too ignorant and ill mannered to admit that you were wrong!
Re: Chris Pelchin
you stand corrected....and bad luck to you, making your point in BOLD shows a frustration in not getting your own way...build a bridge and get over the Pelcs bashing, when quite simply you have no inside knowledge of the workings of the footy department but you have read a book about it...all the best
you stand corrected....and bad luck to you, making your point in BOLD shows a frustration in not getting your own way...build a bridge and get over the Pelcs bashing, when quite simply you have no inside knowledge of the workings of the footy department but you have read a book about it...all the best
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Re: Chris Pelchin
Still can admitt that you are wrong can you?
Not just a book this time but Pelchen's own words quoted:
From http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/dew-has-long-weigh-to-go/story-e6frf9if-1111114989833
Still can admitt that you are wrong can you?
Not just a book this time but Pelchen's own words quoted:
From http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/dew-has-long-weigh-to-go/story-e6frf9if-1111114989833
Re: Chris Pelchin
and you still have no idea how things work publicly and behind closed doors
and you still have no idea how things work publicly and behind closed doors
Re: Chris Pelchin
Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!! what was he thinking!!!
All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!!
what was he thinking!!! All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
Re: Chris Pelchin
Pelchen wasnt there for the 04' draft
Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!!
All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
Pelchen wasnt there for the 04' draft
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Re: Chris Pelchin
In 2007, Pelchen picked a one-dimensional small forward with Pick 12 (a kid who didn't want to be in Melbourne) ignoring our need for a KPP backman.
How useless has Pelchen been?
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Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!!
All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
In 2007, Pelchen picked a one-dimensional small forward with Pick 12 (a kid who didn't want to be in Melbourne) ignoring our need for a KPP backman.
How useless has Pelchen been?
.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Kipster, you got smashed in that argument.
Back to the OP, doubt Pelchen will be around this time next year, I hope that I am wrong but I cant see things changing from a pretty inconsistent and frustrating 09 and 10.
I would say we need a convincing top 4 finish for him to stay on. Doubt even a week 1 finals knock out will be enough.
Kipster, you got smashed in that argument.
Back to the OP, doubt Pelchen will be around this time next year, I hope that I am wrong but I cant see things changing from a pretty inconsistent and frustrating 09 and 10.
I would say we need a convincing top 4 finish for him to stay on. Doubt even a week 1 finals knock out will be enough.
Re: Chris Pelchin
**** off, that's your view....
"the ethical superiority of the uninvolved or uninformed" that pretty well sums up you morons...
that's the problem in this thread, too many posters who have an insular view and are too busy looking at the cookies and not the cookie jar!
**** off, that's your view....
"the ethical superiority of the uninvolved or uninformed" that pretty well sums up you morons...
that's the problem in this thread, too many posters who have an insular view and are too busy looking at the cookies and not the cookie jar!
Re: Chris Pelchin
Cool..... Now please explain what happened in the 2005 and 2006 draft.
5 first rounders...only two playing. Nice ratio.
As for Rioli, he wanted to play in be in Melbourne he just wanted to play at Essendon.
Ignoring the need, we had a fit Croad at that stage, we also had Dowler and Thorp , who we thought would take one of the Defensive posts in the near future.....So we didn't really ignore a need, the need at the time in 2007 was for a quickish goalkicking crumber in the forward line.
Cool..... Now please explain what happened in the 2005 and 2006 draft.
5 first rounders...only two playing. Nice ratio.
As for Rioli, he wanted to play in be in Melbourne he just wanted to play at Essendon.
Ignoring the need, we had a fit Croad at that stage, we also had Dowler and Thorp , who we thought would take one of the Defensive posts in the near future.....So we didn't really ignore a need, the need at the time in 2007 was for a quickish goalkicking crumber in the forward line.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Hahahaha.....I love your fight Kip, never admit defeat its a sign of weakness
C'mon Kip you know it to be true...Pelchen has final say.
**** off, that's your view....
"the ethical superiority of the uninvolved or uninformed" that pretty well sums up you morons...
that's the problem in this thread, too many posters who have an insular view and are too busy looking at the cookies and not the cookie jar!
Hahahaha.....I love your fight Kip, never admit defeat its a sign of weakness
C'mon Kip you know it to be true...Pelchen has final say.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Oh, please, no Thornton!!
Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!!
All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
Oh, please, no Thornton!!
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Re: Chris Pelchin
Kipster, I usually don't say things just for the sake of it....so YES I do know, I know alot more than you obviously think I do!
how can you? do you know of him personally and what he does?
you have no idea
Kipster, I usually don't say things just for the sake of it....so YES I do know, I know alot more than you obviously think I do!
Re: Chris Pelchin
Traded Hay for Birchall & Bailey.
Traded Burgoyne & Gibson into our side, and now Hale.
I reckon the Burgoyne trade was genius. It's not often you can trade elite A-graders into your list.
Why so much hate?
Traded Hay for Birchall & Bailey.
Traded Burgoyne & Gibson into our side, and now Hale.
I reckon the Burgoyne trade was genius. It's not often you can trade elite A-graders into your list.
Why so much hate?
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Re: Chris Pelchin
People need to remember something.
The definition of the word veto.
The power of veto does not mean that Pelchen chooses all players, only that he can veto other's choices, if he has strong disagreement to that choice.
No-one else, I guess, has been given veto power.
As he has said, he has at least once chosen not to use it, and, one would guess, most often there would be no need to use it as there would be general agreement among the whole coaching/recruiting group.
The football department chooses recruits as a whole group. End of discussion. Pelchen is only the final word, or deciding vote.
People need to remember something.
The definition of the word veto.
The power of veto does not mean that Pelchen chooses all players, only that he can veto other's choices, if he has strong disagreement to that choice.
No-one else, I guess, has been given veto power.
As he has said, he has at least once chosen not to use it, and, one would guess, most often there would be no need to use it as there would be general agreement among the whole coaching/recruiting group.
The football department chooses recruits as a whole group. End of discussion. Pelchen is only the final word, or deciding vote.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Oh, please, no Thornton!!
Yep, Pelchin definately doesn't know what he is doing - I will never forgive him for taking Roughy ahead of Tambling!!!
All these posts.... outside midfielder?? We needed to:
a) bolster our ruck stocks <DONE>
All we need now is to get Josh Hill & Brett Thornton and our job at trade week is done
Oh, please, no Thornton!!
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Re: Chris Pelchin
Kipster, ordivician has provided two sound references for his claim, you have provided nothing but polemics. Claiming that you are correct and he is not does not improve your position at this point. Nor does accusing your opponent of engaging in polemics, given that although he has done so, he has also provided evidence for his claims, which you have not.
Any unbiased view of this debate, at this point, has ordivician as the winner. I don't personally know the truth of the fact of the matter, but you've yet to provide anything that suggests that it is as you say it is.
On the matter of Pelchen, I'm glad we have him running things. This time last year everyone was mad that we hadn't picked up a ruckman. Now, a year later, our ruck situation hasn't really changed - we do pick up a ruckman, and everyone is complaining.
Picking up Burgoyne was brilliant. He is exactly what we need - we mostly all agree that we lack pace in the midfield currently - well where would we be on the front if we didn't have Burgoyne?
I think the picture is nearly complete now. Gillham is an adequate fullback, he put in some very good performances this year. If he becomes a bit more consistent, we will be very happy with him. Schoenmakers is still only a 2 year player, if he comes on in the next year or two like we hope, then with Stratton and Gibson in there as well, we have the makings of a very sound defence with strong rebounding capabilities. If we do pick up Hill, and some of our younger players with pace come on a little bit, I think we will be looking at one of the best midfields in the comp, with an average to slightly above-average ruck division. If Roughy can get his confidence back, we already have one of the best forward lines in the league. If we make use of it by kicking it long more often, we become one of the most dangerous teams around.
That is quite a few ifs, yes, but the point I am making is that the pieces are coming together. It's Chris' job to get those pieces in place, Clarkos to ensure that all of those ifs work out. On that reading, you'd have to say that Pelchen is doing a very good job.
I am a little puzzled at why we didn't go after Djerrkurra a bit harder - pick 57 for him is a total steal. We could have given them that pick that the Kangaroos gave us, 52 or so. Still, you just don't know what the details were. I have trust in Pelchen that his reasoning behind his strategies are sound, though. As I said, he's got the pieces in place.
Kipster, ordivician has provided two sound references for his claim, you have provided nothing but polemics. Claiming that you are correct and he is not does not improve your position at this point. Nor does accusing your opponent of engaging in polemics, given that although he has done so, he has also provided evidence for his claims, which you have not.
Any unbiased view of this debate, at this point, has ordivician as the winner. I don't personally know the truth of the fact of the matter, but you've yet to provide anything that suggests that it is as you say it is.
On the matter of Pelchen, I'm glad we have him running things. This time last year everyone was mad that we hadn't picked up a ruckman. Now, a year later, our ruck situation hasn't really changed - we do pick up a ruckman, and everyone is complaining.
Picking up Burgoyne was brilliant. He is exactly what we need - we mostly all agree that we lack pace in the midfield currently - well where would we be on the front if we didn't have Burgoyne?
I think the picture is nearly complete now. Gillham is an adequate fullback, he put in some very good performances this year. If he becomes a bit more consistent, we will be very happy with him. Schoenmakers is still only a 2 year player, if he comes on in the next year or two like we hope, then with Stratton and Gibson in there as well, we have the makings of a very sound defence with strong rebounding capabilities. If we do pick up Hill, and some of our younger players with pace come on a little bit, I think we will be looking at one of the best midfields in the comp, with an average to slightly above-average ruck division. If Roughy can get his confidence back, we already have one of the best forward lines in the league. If we make use of it by kicking it long more often, we become one of the most dangerous teams around.
That is quite a few ifs, yes, but the point I am making is that the pieces are coming together. It's Chris' job to get those pieces in place, Clarkos to ensure that all of those ifs work out. On that reading, you'd have to say that Pelchen is doing a very good job.
I am a little puzzled at why we didn't go after Djerrkurra a bit harder - pick 57 for him is a total steal. We could have given them that pick that the Kangaroos gave us, 52 or so. Still, you just don't know what the details were. I have trust in Pelchen that his reasoning behind his strategies are sound, though. As I said, he's got the pieces in place.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Anyone catch him on SEN on the run home tonight? Just missed it.
Anyone catch him on SEN on the run home tonight? Just missed it.
Re: Chris Pelchin
Talked about Hale being mainly Ruck, part time forward.
Almost apologised twice to melbourne who have been chasing Hale for a while - said having simpson may have swayed it
==Could it be he still wants to trade with melbourne ?
I think Pelch amost said the Bemons offer to Hale personally was better than ours but held back
Mentioned Josh Hill was still underway.
Said he was glad this year not to be the controversial one in the middle of a storm. said one was brewing and when pressed - said "starts with visy"
Said 'turned the page' on tarrant but will keep in touch.
Mentioned no other players and, incredibly, wasnt asked.
In reference Gold coast said they were keen to get those compo picks back as 'wild cards' in the future - I wonder if this was the Ossie rumour ?
Gold coast want to be able to pick good kids in early in drafts over the next 5 years
I think he is also trying to improve his image. Not a bad idea really.
On another topic altogether - it would have been good to try to get Gavin Brown who knows all about collingwood. Or Silvagni whos a top defence coach and knows about the saints
Talked about Hale being mainly Ruck, part time forward.
Almost apologised twice to melbourne who have been chasing Hale for a while - said having simpson may have swayed it
==Could it be he still wants to trade with melbourne ?
I think Pelch amost said the Bemons offer to Hale personally was better than ours but held back
Mentioned Josh Hill was still underway.
Said he was glad this year not to be the controversial one in the middle of a storm. said one was brewing and when pressed - said "starts with visy"
Said 'turned the page' on tarrant but will keep in touch.
Mentioned no other players and, incredibly, wasnt asked.
In reference Gold coast said they were keen to get those compo picks back as 'wild cards' in the future - I wonder if this was the Ossie rumour ?
Gold coast want to be able to pick good kids in early in drafts over the next 5 years
I think he is also trying to improve his image. Not a bad idea really.
On another topic altogether - it would have been good to try to get Gavin Brown who knows all about collingwood. Or Silvagni whos a top defence coach and knows about the saints
