Christian Porter

[Freo Big Fella]

Once again, irrelevant.

The main point is that CP is unable to cross examine his accuser. As such, there is no enquiry that would fulfull any threshold of fairness that western democracy would find acceptable.

The attempt to conflate the judicial process with an individual's personal suitability to be a Minister of the Crown is, and will always remain, ludicrous. So Ministers should be fair game to do anything and everything up to actively breaking the law?

Porter had multiple opportunities to contest the allegation in Parliament, an independent setting, or open court, and actively fled from every one of them.

Parliamentary inquiry? Nup. Got the PM to run interference instead.
Independent inquiry? As above.
Contest the ABC's truth defence? Took one look at it and instead opted to bottle it for the price of his mediation costs, then had it buried rather than attempting to contest it.
Refute the allegations on the campaign trail? Nah, runs off into retirement instead.

Echoes how he's fled from the consequences of his largely inept political career (rising crime rates and recidivism as WA AG, record budget deficits as State Treasurer).

And for all the howling at the moon he's done re his love for the rule of law, he'll go down in history as the Social Services Minister who reversed the onus of proof for welfare recipients (Robodebt) and the AG who oversaw the kafkaesque star chamber trials of Witness K and Bernard Colleary. No rules of evidence there!

The Emperor's New Clothes of politicians - as soon as someone burst his protective bubble, he was always done.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

No great loss, look for the libs to try and put a woman up for Pearce.

I'm sure Goodenough and Collier have a suitable northern suburbs Clan drone lined up. What's Faye Duda up to right now?

 

[masai tu]

I'm sure Goodenough and Collier have a suitable northern suburbs Clan drone lined up. What's Faye Duda up to right now?

What’s Fay Duda up to ?, doubt she’ll be lining up for goals.

It appears “The Clan”, has not loosened it’s grip on the party.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Others say not

i appeared against him when he was at the DPP. He knew what he was doing

 

[Chief]

as soon as someone burst his protective bubble, he was always done.

I think the point is that he is entrenched in that swamp so he will always have an out.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Is there still an opening as the resident sex pest following in the footsteps of Dyson Heydon?

they have just made a series of appointments. they are all pretty young

 

[CakeEater]

I'm sure Goodenough and Collier have a suitable northern suburbs Clan drone lined up. What's Faye Duda up to right now?

Not many talented women in the Libs out there.

Faye is president still I thought, she aint running.

Maybe some ex-state candidate will run

 

[western royboy]

i appeared against him when he was at the DPP. He knew what he was doing

Then how did he **** up his own stuff so royally? I mean it was kindergarten stuff

 

[Freo Big Fella]

Maybe some ex-state candidate will run

Actually, thinking about it further, Albert Jacob;

- Fits the Clan requirements perfectly (religious, obedient and mediocre); and
- would mean the Pearce campaign as a whole would become a clearing house for the weird Wanneroo v Joondalup rivalry that has always been hugely entertaining in a very niche Perth sort of way.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Possibly the in-house polling showed a slaughter in Pearce. I'm sure his apologists/supporters/donors will find him a home.

The Christian has managed to ensure the details of the ABC’s defence in its defamation case have been tied in a nice legal binding never to see the light of day. So, I'm less confident that all will be revealed.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

Scandalous what The Christian has put Bernard through.

 

[CakeEater]

Actually, thinking about it further, Albert Jacob;

- Fits the Clan requirements perfectly (religious, obedient and mediocre); and
- would mean the Pearce campaign as a whole would become a clearing house for the weird Wanneroo v Joondalup rivalry that has always been hugely entertaining in a very niche Perth sort of way.

I like your thinking but watch out for Trish Botha.

Ex Goodenough staffer and a female

 

[CakeEater]

Then how did he fu** up his own stuff so royally? I mean it was kindergarten stuff

He was thinking with his second brain.

 

[Christopher Buttersnip]

X 2

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

The attempt to conflate the judicial process with an individual's personal suitability to be a Minister of the Crown is, and will always remain, ludicrous. So Ministers should be fair game to do anything and everything up to actively breaking the law?

Porter had multiple opportunities to contest the allegation in Parliament, an independent setting, or open court, and actively fled from every one of them.

Parliamentary inquiry? Nup. Got the PM to run interference instead.
Independent inquiry? As above.
Contest the ABC's truth defence? Took one look at it and instead opted to bottle it for the price of his mediation costs, then had it buried rather than attempting to contest it.
Refute the allegations on the campaign trail? Nah, runs off into retirement instead.

Echoes how he's fled from the consequences of his largely inept political career (rising crime rates and recidivism as WA AG, record budget deficits as State Treasurer).

And for all the howling at the moon he's done re his love for the rule of law, he'll go down in history as the Social Services Minister who reversed the onus of proof for welfare recipients (Robodebt) and the AG who oversaw the kafkaesque star chamber trials of Witness K and Bernard Colleary. No rules of evidence there!

The Emperor's New Clothes of politicians - as soon as someone burst his protective bubble, he was always done.

I don't disagree re robodebt...it is still irrelevant to what we are discussing.

Google the Bringinshaw Principle and educate yourself.

This may not be a criminal setting, but the consequences of these allegations is that Porter has lost his career.

The evidence from where I stand is dubious at best.

Have a great night.

 

[Austoraisetheurn]

Seems unable to understand the different standards of proof between criminal and civil inquiry or alternatively doesn’t want to deal with reality and bases his experience on a stint in the box at the SMALL CLAlMS TRiBUNAL

Bringinshaw principle.

 

[jhong]

Seems to me the only thing he has lost is the opportunity to become the AUS Prime Minister . Boo Hoo .

 

[ep2018]

He saw the writing on the wall (internal polling) and understandably bailed. Not a single LNP seat in WA is safe due to the McGowan factor. The LNP are going to get smacked next fed election.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Then how did he fu** up his own stuff so royally? I mean it was kindergarten stuff

Probably just garden variety hubris. As NSWCROW will tell you born to rule mentality.

 

[Rob R]

No great loss, look for the libs to try and put a woman up for Pearce.

Putting up a moderate female candidate would make sense but this is a Scomo govt so watch then libs put up a party hack (as the ALP did with KK showing values dont matter only your allies within the party)

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[Gough]

I wonder what Gillard has to think Porter's pity party for himself? How soon is going to be when we ask ourselves are men too emotional to govern? Judging by this government's response to criticism of any sort, we have to start thinking that's a yes.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I wonder what Gillard has to think Porter's pity party for himself? How soon is going to be when we ask ourselves are men too emotional to govern? Judging by this government's response to criticism of any sort, we have to start thinking that's a yes.

Oh well, at least he wasn’t Deliberately Barren.

 

[Gough]

Oh well, at least he wasn’t Deliberately Barren.

There was a royal commission into some renos she did in 80s, Porter's accused of anally raping a young women, is protected by anonymous donors and walks away with a six figure pension. Hmmmm...

 

[BigTacoBandit]

I don't disagree re robodebt...it is still irrelevant to what we are discussing.

Google the Bringinshaw Principle and educate yourself.

This may not be a criminal setting, but the consequences of these allegations is that Porter has lost his career.

The evidence from where I stand is dubious at best.

Have a great night.

So you you've gone from the criminal justice standard of "beyond reasonable doubt" to the Briginshaw standard of "balance of probabilities". I guess that's progress.

Correct, The evidence is dubious at the moment. But that's because we have seen barely any of it. Sounds like Porter saw some during the defamation proceedings and then decided to stop the case and make sure that evidence never saw the light of day.

And the fact is that these didn't cost Porter his job. Every step related to his job was self-inflicted.

Stepping down as AG - He did so because he undertook defamation against a government organisation and he was chief law officer of the Government.

Stepping down from politics - His own choice. Sounds like he wants to be a lawyer in NSW.

Doesn't really matter now he's stepping down though. I guess we'll see if the NSW Bar has higher character standards than parliament.

 

[CakeEater]

Putting up a moderate female candidate would make sense but this is a Scomo govt so watch then libs put up a party hack (as the ALP did with KK showing values dont matter only your allies within the party)

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They dont have a moderate female in their ranks over here, only rabid/churchy party hacks.