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The cast list on imdb says that a young actor will portray a young BRE. But what do we know about BRE’s young years? The actor appears too young to portray BRE during the Huntingdale attacks, so what scenes could they involve?
 
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The cast list on imdb says that a young actor will portray a young BRE. But what do we know about his young years? The actor appears too young to portray BRE during the Huntingdale attacks, so what scenes could they involve?
Reckon Bradley will get a kick out of this? In his mind it'll enhance his reputation. Because there will be parts about Sarah, He'll get all giddy within himself. Thinking it'll show everyone that he has the upper hand and power with that case. In his mind that is. Reality is it's going to take luck for someone to find Sarah's body.
 
Reckon Bradley will get a kick out of this? In his mind it'll enhance his reputation. Because there will be parts about Sarah, He'll get all giddy within himself. Thinking it'll show everyone that he has the upper hand and power with that case. In his mind that is. Reality is it's going to take luck for someone to find Sarah's body.
I hope he's up on a charge within Prison & loses some favours so they Cut Off power to his cell on the night it goes to Air...

Keep that campaigner in the dark

Or, play RAGE for him that night on repeat 😉
 
An article from the Daily Mail in London – a gutter press rag but informative on this occasion – about Liz Kirkby:


I also watched a two-hour documentary on British TV the other evening about the CSK.

The major mistake I believe the police made was in not releasing the video of the MM, plus failing to identify him from among Jane's "contacts", given that her evident pleasure at seeing the MM is not indicative of speaking to a stranger.

I remain very surprised that the "Bogsy" lead from Jane's friend never came to light during the investigation. Why didn't she pass it on to her local police after Jane went missing? It would at least have indicated someone older than Jane – which would fit the MM in the video (even from the rear).
 
An article from the Daily Mail in London – a gutter press rag but informative on this occasion – about Liz Kirkby:


I also watched a two-hour documentary on British TV the other evening about the CSK.

The major mistake I believe the police made was in not releasing the video of the MM, plus failing to identify him from among Jane's "contacts", given that her evident pleasure at seeing the MM is not indicative of speaking to a stranger.

I remain very surprised that the "Bogsy" lead from Jane's friend never came to light during the investigation. Why didn't she pass it on to her local police after Jane went missing? It would at least have indicated someone older than Jane – which would fit the MM in the video (even from the rear).
Speaking in Night Stalker: Terror In A Small Town, which airs tonight on Channel 5 at 10pm, single mother Liz Kirkby revealed how she survived an attack by Bradley Robert Edwards in 1988 - eight years before the disappearance of Sarah Spiers - in her home in Huntingdale, WA.

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An article from the Daily Mail in London – a gutter press rag but informative on this occasion – about Liz Kirkby:


I also watched a two-hour documentary on British TV the other evening about the CSK.

The major mistake I believe the police made was in not releasing the video of the MM, plus failing to identify him from among Jane's "contacts", given that her evident pleasure at seeing the MM is not indicative of speaking to a stranger.

I remain very surprised that the "Bogsy" lead from Jane's friend never came to light during the investigation. Why didn't she pass it on to her local police after Jane went missing? It would at least have indicated someone older than Jane – which would fit the MM in the video (even from the rear).

No the major mistake I believe, was not matching the attacks in Huntingdale in the first place in the 1980's!
All B&E's etc. etc. WAPOL let them all "slide". They had BRE fingerprints from a Huntingdale B&E on a sliding door

Not joining the dots initially with the attack on Wendy in Hollywood Hospital - in broad daylight - and in work uniform and a guilty conviction (because WAPOL charged BRE with common assault and not a more serious crime)
It's said BRE was sent to a course on "sex offenders" - which hasnt been released to the public - so we can assume BRE had form and this was all hushed up by Telstra... etc. or, NOT connected on any WAPOL data base !

Basic policing - Not joining the dots of the KK cemetery blitz attack and Hollywood Hospital.... and CSK earlier

To be fair the MM could have been the back of any 20yo male in WA

WAPOL had no "join the dots" - sex offenders /juvie/ list across the suburbs to connect on a full database of Perth crimes.

I suggest you read Bret Christian's book - inside the hunt for a serial killer " Stalking Claremont " He is the only Perth journo who owns The Post Newspaper (Western Suburbs free newspaper) - who highlighted the connection between the KK case and found out lots of inside information...

Telecom not handing over ALL the "who drove what car" - was it because BRE's father worked for Telecom/Telstra and covered for his poor young BRE ? ? so many fuucken unanswered questions ! Still not answered

BRE had form as a teenager and was not arrested until he was in 2016 as the CSK. I hope someone soon goes for his Superannuation - all of it.
 

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BRE had form as a teenager
Nowadays, if you had that sort of form as a teenager, you'd be receiving psychiatric treatment, and possibly be on some psych medications (probably involuntary). And have a regular psychologist (if can find/afford one).

Did the Public and/or Private Health system not ever provide Psych treatment to u18 teens back in the early 80's in Perth?

Or did BRE's parents just never seek medical help for his u18 behavior?
(Assuming BRE and WA Police never crossed paths in regards to BRE's behavior as an u18?)
(Assuming BRE's parents had any knowledge of what BRE was up to as an u18, which they might not have had)
 
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Nowadays, if you had that sort of form as a teenager, you'd be receiving psychiatric treatment, and possibly be on some psych medications (probably involuntary). And have a regular psychologist (if can find/afford one).

Did the Public and/or Private Health system not ever provide Psych treatment to u18 teens back in the early 80's in Perth?

Or did BRE's parents just never seek medical help for his u18 behavior?
(Assuming BRE and WA Police never crossed paths in regards to BRE's behavior as an u18?)
(Assuming BRE's parents had any knowledge of what BRE was up to as an u18, which they might not have had)

That the presiding judge, at sentencing made remark which I thought was quite unusual, that he was not handed BREs medical history, is significant.

IMO he abruptly stopped offending in Huntingdale because he got caught and was sent for treatment where he was flattened on meds.

There may have been some sort of a agreement made between the prosecution and the defence to withold all that material because I'm pretty sure Carmel made mention early in that she was waiting for all BREs medical records so we can assume she probably got them and would have had them before he pled guilty to the KK rape.
 
Wife 1 may have also helped/stopped his "urges" sans meds

Albeit temporarily..

Wife 2 may have also met some needs & the rest of the needs/urges were met by the Dark Web

Armadale business owner said on radio BRE was his best customer buying and investing and building fast computers.

Remember the step daughter on FB about the clown frightening photo/remark to "stop" and his mean threatening reply "NO Everyone loves a clown"

Photographing children at Little Athletic comps..... who knows. We know BRE had disgusting stories about Chloe rapes on his PC. Addictions to horror movies etc etc

This all could have been his "medicine"

Sex toys in the garage... to meet needs that meds could not.
Hand made no less !

All inadmissible in Court. But reported on prior to the trial.

Ahhhh the suppressions... legal and other.
 
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if you read the article in the attached link you will find the following comment:

"Police had long had their sights on the now convicted killer - who called himself the 'bogeyman' online - but he repeatedly lied to them about his crimes."

Is this just poor journalism, or is there more to the story we have been told by WAPOL? since when did they have their sights on BRE for a long time? when did he repeatedly lie to them about his crimes? the way the comment is in the article, it sounds like the cops knew about BRE for years, and he had been interviewed numerous times, where he lied about his involvement in the crimes.
 
"Police had long had their sights on the now convicted killer - who called himself the 'bogeyman' online - but he repeatedly lied to them about his crimes.

Is this just poor journalism, or is there more to the story we have been told by WAPOL? since when did they have their sights on BRE for a long time? when did he repeatedly lie to them about his crimes? the way the comment is in the article, it sounds like the cops knew about BRE for years, and he had been interviewed numerous times, where he lied about his involvement in the crimes."

I daresay poor journalism.

BRE repeatedly lied to Police about his crimes during his Police Interview(s) that were after he was arrested.

The WA Police investigation had long had their sights on the now convicted killer, but did not actually know his identity until later around 2016.

Just in case that part gets revised, here's a screenshot of it.

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This looks terrible, judging by the trailers. I'll take a look, but not expecting much.

Looks trashy..... ch7
Doesn't look very "polished"

Mr Spiers going out to swamps in the middle of the night in the suburbs
Hideous clairvoyants claiming "tip offs"
Mrs Spiers begging for information on tv
Someone putting CG underpants on GC grave years after the murder.

Telstra not handing over Complete drivers lists

And NOT one person naming BRE as a suspect having been on a Course after his HH attack. (?)

KK not investigated properly when as far as I'm concerned it was an Abduction/Kidnapping... attempted Murder.. and they had BRE DNA from this attack !!

It took TOO LONG to match it back to a Huntingdale B&E... fingerprints
Semen on the Kimono which was dropped in Huntingdale attack (HOW BRAZEN) then finally matched to KK attack

Leading to BRE.....and brave CG who had BRE DNA under her initially untested DNA samples (thank fuuck they kept the fingernail clippings)

Kimono in a police box wrongly marked Jack Van Tongan....

Comedy of errors... and pure luck BRE wasn't called in for an Interview by MACRO

Pure luck ?
 
Comedy of errors... and pure luck BRE wasn't called in for an Interview by MACRO
You forgot the coincidence about 2007-2009 BRE playing masters Aussie rules community footy (and heavily involved with) a team with some WA Police connections. (at least one connection, possibly a lot more than just this one). Hopefully just a coincidence.

'The officer, now an inspector and who The Weekend West has decided not to name, was among the detectives who interviewed revellers at Club Bayview in 1996 after the disappearance of Sarah Spiers that January.

He spent time in the special crime squad, which was set up to investigate historical unsolved murders, including the Claremont case. The men were in the Central Crocs team photograph, above, taken to celebrate the last game in 2007.'
 

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