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Clash guenseys and strips are necessary.

'Traditionalists' have no sympathy from me.

This.

Some of the biggest clubs in the world wear clash/away shirts, why are most pissant AFL clubs any different?

Collingwood is nothing outside of Australia, what give them the arrogance to wear something other then black & white strips? Look at Man Utd, Arsenal, Real Madrid, lakers, Mets (Glad you like them too :thumbsu:) and others.

AFL clubs are actually embarrassing the way they carry on about not wanting to wear clash jumpers
 
This.

Some of the biggest clubs in the world wear clash/away shirts, why are most pissant AFL clubs any different?

Collingwood is nothing outside of Australia, what give them the arrogance to wear something other then black & white strips? Look at Man Utd, Arsenal, Real Madrid, lakers, Mets (Glad you like them too :thumbsu:) and others.

AFL clubs are actually embarrassing the way they carry on about not wanting to wear clash jumpers


This is a joke of a Post, Collingwood HAVE a clash guernsey that works absolutely fine when worn, what is it with the small number of jelous opposition supporters who seem to care so much about what our club does, worry about your own clubs.

Our clash jumper, like every other clash jumper in the afl is predominentley white WTF more do u want us too do? black, white and purple polka dots? give me a break!:rolleyes:
 
This.

Some of the biggest clubs in the world wear clash/away shirts, why are most pissant AFL clubs any different?

Collingwood is nothing outside of Australia, what give them the arrogance to wear something other then black & white strips? Look at Man Utd, Arsenal, Real Madrid, lakers, Mets (Glad you like them too :thumbsu:) and others.

AFL clubs are actually embarrassing the way they carry on about not wanting to wear clash jumpers

Collingwood will wear their clash strip against Port later this year and there will be no issue distinguishing the two teams.

Why does the clash strip have to completely different from the home jumper.

The majority of pies fans i know are quite happy with our clash jumper, the reason being it remains similar to our home strip, yet manages to avoid clashes with opposition teams. The only exception is North where the pies have provided another clash jumper.

Hardly the actions of a club carrying on about not wanting to wear a clash strip.
 
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I am deadset sick and tired of clash jumpers.
Thoughts?

Agree.

It is gradually increasing by stealth. 3 weeks teams wear them one year, 4 weeks the next, Hawthorn...gawd-who knows what they are going to wear week by week -

is it the dinosaur dan outfit in white with the dinosaur head coming out from under the arm, is it army fatigues or is it their proper guernsey...who knows?

Brisbane- my gawd...you just have to weep for that team and their supporters -what on earth are they wearing?

Don't get me started on the Carlton one. Disgraceful. Wasn't it great to see Sturt play Port Adelaide on the weekend...oh sorry, wrong match...

oh but we are told by the Gillard like marketing geniuses it is good for the game to canibalise something worthwhile.:rolleyes:
 
Agree.

It is gradually increasing by stealth. 3 weeks teams wear them one year, 4 weeks the next, Hawthorn...gawd-who knows what they are going to wear week by week -

is it the dinosaur dan outfit in white with the dinosaur head coming out from under the arm, is it army fatigues or is it their proper guernsey...who knows?

Brisbane- my gawd...you just have to weep for that team and their supporters -what on earth are they wearing?

Don't get me started on the Carlton one. Disgraceful. Wasn't it great to see Sturt play Port Adelaide on the weekend...oh sorry, wrong match...

oh but we are told by the Gillard like marketing geniuses it is good for the game to canibalise something worthwhile.:rolleyes:

AND ONE TIME I SAW THE LAKERS WIN THE FINALS IN PURPLE AND I WAS TOTALLY PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smart words.
 
This.

Some of the biggest clubs in the world wear clash/away shirts, why are most pissant AFL clubs any different?

Collingwood is nothing outside of Australia, what give them the arrogance to wear something other then black & white strips? Look at Man Utd, Arsenal, Real Madrid, lakers, Mets (Glad you like them too :thumbsu:) and others.

AFL clubs are actually embarrassing the way they carry on about not wanting to wear clash jumpers

Australian football may be a "pissant" game for you...but for people who have followed it for 10-20 plus years it means a lot more.

Many see no need to copy overseas sports. Some even see your EPL as a "pissant" game - especially as it is a game that regularly condones cheating. How did Man U beat Liverpool this year again? Can you remind me?


Arrogance? I see it as confidence in the superiority of the Australian product...you in contrast see anything Australian as "pissant". Each to their own-but Australians need to grow some balls and stop bowing to irrelevant entities overseas.
 
Australian football may be a "pissant" game for you...but for people who have followed it for 10-20 plus years it means a lot more.

Many see no need to copy overseas sports. Some even see your EPL as a "pissant" game - especially as it is a game that regularly condones cheating. How did Man U beat Liverpool this year again? Can you remind me?


Arrogance? I see it as confidence in the superiority of the Australian product...you in contrast see anything Australian as "pissant". Each to their own-but Australians need to grow some balls and stop bowing to irrelevant entities overseas.

Is this the smartest Carlton fan ever to walk the earth?

Totally agree! :D
 
why was sydney wearing white on saturday night?

I can see predominantly red being a clash with predominantly maroon...I reckon wearing the clash there is fair enough. Though to open another can of worms, what Sydney wore on Saturday night is pretty close to what their home jumper should be. Completely different predominant colours on the front of a jumper to the back is ridiculous, with all the fuss about clashes.

Going back to Brisbane/Sydney, I seem to remember Brisbane being the only team Sydney would regularly wear white shorts against when they played away, I guess because it was deemed to be too close to maroon.
 
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Again. I'm pretty sure a predominately black jumper against a predominately white jumper avoid a clash

You can not be serious...get 44 blokes dressed up in those two kits for a scratch match of footy and see how it goes.
 

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Have said this in another thread, but it bears repeating.

I really like the new baby blue Carlton clash strip for one simple reason. When Carlton wears it, we have a game where the two teams are not sharing any colours at all. It's refreshing and makes identifying the two teams unbelievably simple.

Yes, the inverted Carlton clash strip worked, but when they played teams with some white in their guernsey, it still created some minor issues. So well done to Carlton for removing it completely. Absolutely no clash. Makes the game so much more enjoyable.

They wear navy blue at their home games. They could wear baby pink with purple polka dots at away games, it doesnt change the fact that they are the navy blues. Really dislike the notion that what a team wears when they play away somehow affects their brand or their home guernsey.
 
On the issue of clash jumpers, some jumpers work because it's a part of their colours (e.g. Carlton's white strip, Dogs inverted strip). Some are very plain and even through they work it isn't really an aesthetically pleasing jumper that I would pay for (e.g. Roos Argentina strip, St.Kilda's first clash with "aged" logo, Essendon wider sash). Others fail because white isn't really part of their colour base (e.g. Hawks, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane's White strip, Eagles). If they can find a strip within their colours of their primary strip that works well, then it's not really a problem.

Clash strips for each club should be as follows

ADELAIDE: They had a yellow strip they once used as a "heritage" jumper, that would be more than adequate
BRISBANE: Fitzroy jumper
CARLTON: Return to white jumper, it's not that the double blue doesn't work it's just that the white jumper worked so much better on and (probably) off field
COLLINGWOOD: White backs
ESSENDON: Invert colours (Red with black sash)
FREMANTLE: Retain current clash jumper
GEELONG: HELP?
GOLD COAST: Keep white jumper and use for all away games
GWS: Can't remember what their primary is so need help.
HAWTHORN: Same design, but Gold instead of White
MELBOURNE: The red designs they had in the middle of the decade were better than the last few ideas that they've tried
NORTH MELBOURNE: Either have the Royal Blue with the White V that they had when they last played in a prelim, or invert that for White with a Blue V
PORT ADELAIDE: Retain current away strip
ST.KILDA: Bring back either Candy Stripes or the predominately red strip they wore in the 1997 GF
RICHMOND: Invert colours (Yellow with Black sash)
SYDNEY: HELP?
WEST COAST: Either current clash strip with Yellow/Gold instead of White OR original 1987 Eagles strip (their home strip should be the one they wore in their GF appearances)
BULLDOGS: Same except just have the Red and Blue hoop, no Bulldog on front.
 
Australian football may be a "pissant" game for you...but for people who have followed it for 10-20 plus years it means a lot more.

Many see no need to copy overseas sports. Some even see your EPL as a "pissant" game - especially as it is a game that regularly condones cheating. How did Man U beat Liverpool this year again? Can you remind me?


Arrogance? I see it as confidence in the superiority of the Australian product...you in contrast see anything Australian as "pissant". Each to their own-but Australians need to grow some balls and stop bowing to irrelevant entities overseas.

My EPL?

I'm an AFL fan first and foremost. I've been a Port member for exactly 10 years, let alone being just a supporter before that. AFL clubs need to learn that clash jumpers are important, and it doesn't make you any less of a club wearing something different. Collingwood need to ****ing grow up. Get rid of the strips and have an all white jumper with no black. Maybe their club logo in the middle.
 
Some clash strips like Hawthorn's have a light front and a dark back.....absoloutely ridiculous. The AFL in mandating clash strips have made no legislation as to the contrasts that are used in them. FIFA have a rule that the design on the front of a strip must match the back to avoid contrast issues.

Then there was the case a couple of weeks ago where Melbourne wore their clash strip against the saints with large splashes of white making it a game between Melbourne in Navy, Red and White (including red socks) and St Kilda in Black, Red and White, almost all in equal measures.

Then Collingwood get bagged for inversing their colours when it actually serves its purpose the best in the league.

Inversed strips such as Freo, Port, Collingwood, and even the inversed North one in Brisbane a few weeks back work wonders.
 
My EPL?

I'm an AFL fan first and foremost. I've been a Port member for exactly 10 years, let alone being just a supporter before that. AFL clubs need to learn that clash jumpers are important, and it doesn't make you any less of a club wearing something different. Collingwood need to ****ing grow up. Get rid of the strips and have an all white jumper with no black. Maybe their club logo in the middle.


No, why should we, our stripes are our identity and we have been wearing them for over 100 years....why would we stop now?:confused:

FYI, we have had logos on the middle, different types of magpie pictures on the fronts of our jumpers, but weve seen the light and have reverted to what works best for us. time for you to get over it!
 
On the issue of clash jumpers, some jumpers work because it's a part of their colours (e.g. Carlton's white strip, Dogs inverted strip). Some are very plain and even through they work it isn't really an aesthetically pleasing jumper that I would pay for (e.g. Roos Argentina strip, St.Kilda's first clash with "aged" logo, Essendon wider sash). Others fail because white isn't really part of their colour base (e.g. Hawks, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane's White strip, Eagles). If they can find a strip within their colours of their primary strip that works well, then it's not really a problem.

Clash strips for each club should be as follows

ADELAIDE: They had a yellow strip they once used as a "heritage" jumper, that would be more than adequate
BRISBANE: Fitzroy jumper
CARLTON: Return to white jumper, it's not that the double blue doesn't work it's just that the white jumper worked so much better on and (probably) off field
COLLINGWOOD: White backs
ESSENDON: Invert colours (Red with black sash)
FREMANTLE: Retain current clash jumper
GEELONG: HELP?
GOLD COAST: Keep white jumper and use for all away games
GWS: Can't remember what their primary is so need help.
HAWTHORN: Same design, but Gold instead of White
MELBOURNE: The red designs they had in the middle of the decade were better than the last few ideas that they've tried
NORTH MELBOURNE: Either have the Royal Blue with the White V that they had when they last played in a prelim, or invert that for White with a Blue V
PORT ADELAIDE: Retain current away strip
ST.KILDA: Bring back either Candy Stripes or the predominately red strip they wore in the 1997 GF
RICHMOND: Invert colours (Yellow with Black sash)
SYDNEY: HELP?
WEST COAST: Either current clash strip with Yellow/Gold instead of White OR original 1987 Eagles strip (their home strip should be the one they wore in their GF appearances)
BULLDOGS: Same except just have the Red and Blue hoop, no Bulldog on front.

Yep agree, swans current clash is great, looks like old south melb, dees could go with a royal blue design, cats can just inverse to a dark back ala Pies home strip. Hawks should go yellow back or even the brown with gold V heritage jumper.
 
On the issue of clash jumpers, some jumpers work because it's a part of their colours (e.g. Carlton's white strip, Dogs inverted strip). Some are very plain and even through they work it isn't really an aesthetically pleasing jumper that I would pay for (e.g. Roos Argentina strip, St.Kilda's first clash with "aged" logo, Essendon wider sash). Others fail because white isn't really part of their colour base (e.g. Hawks, Melbourne, Adelaide, Brisbane's White strip, Eagles). If they can find a strip within their colours of their primary strip that works well, then it's not really a problem.

Clash strips for each club should be as follows

ADELAIDE: They had a yellow strip they once used as a "heritage" jumper, that would be more than adequate
BRISBANE: Fitzroy jumper
CARLTON: Return to white jumper, it's not that the double blue doesn't work it's just that the white jumper worked so much better on and (probably) off field
COLLINGWOOD: White backs
ESSENDON: Invert colours (Red with black sash)
FREMANTLE: Retain current clash jumper
GEELONG: HELP?
GOLD COAST: Keep white jumper and use for all away games
GWS: Can't remember what their primary is so need help.
HAWTHORN: Same design, but Gold instead of White
MELBOURNE: The red designs they had in the middle of the decade were better than the last few ideas that they've tried
NORTH MELBOURNE: Either have the Royal Blue with the White V that they had when they last played in a prelim, or invert that for White with a Blue V
PORT ADELAIDE: Retain current away strip
ST.KILDA: Bring back either Candy Stripes or the predominately red strip they wore in the 1997 GF
RICHMOND: Invert colours (Yellow with Black sash)
SYDNEY: HELP?
WEST COAST: Either current clash strip with Yellow/Gold instead of White OR original 1987 Eagles strip (their home strip should be the one they wore in their GF appearances)
BULLDOGS: Same except just have the Red and Blue hoop, no Bulldog on front.

so true.. geelong can just wear away shorts?
sydneys current one is good enough
 
IIRC Collingwood have two varieties of clash jumper this year - one that is just a plain reverse -> white with black stripes, plus another that is mostly black with quite thin and fewer white stripes. I think that will work fine - they can just wear whichever one provides the most contrast to the opposition: with the proviso they wear white shorts with the former and black shorts with the latter to give the whole of uniform look.
 
GEELONG: HELP?

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Geelong's is fine, the only team they are deemed to clash with is North. Wouldn't have a problem with the reversing the colours of the above clash design (as a third clash) if neither of our current options were considered sufficient against Collingwood. The only problem with it is obscured by the ball in this picture - It's got that dumb Cats head logo on the left breast. Would look superb if it was just a plain design without the logo.
 
They wear navy blue at their home games. They could wear baby pink with purple polka dots at away games, it doesnt change the fact that they are the navy blues. Really dislike the notion that what a team wears when they play away somehow affects their brand or their home guernsey.

On our brand, I hope the club had a quiet word to Foxtel about using a light blue version of the logo on the night. :thumbsdown:
 

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