Rumour Clayton Oliver

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Hopefully he gets the help he needs and gets his head right.
 
WillHayward said:
Melbourne should have traded him in October when they had their chance....

Maybe they had some discreet chats but there were no takers?
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I think an opposition club like the Crows would have paid up for him. Pick 10 and 14/F1 plus change. Probably wouldn't have got peak value but still something very good. Others would have gone after him too.

I know the argument is that they would have done further due diligence and put a line through him but I don't believe that. They wouldn't have uncovered everything and clubs tend to take the more positive view when it comes to players that can help them win a flag. Happens all the time. Its the reason Melbourne kept him despite the signs being that he should be traded. Might have been a fresh start for Oliver too.

I was in agreeance with the Demons decision to keep him at the time but clearly that has backfired.
 

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WillHayward said:
Melbourne should have traded him in October when they had their chance....

Maybe they had some discreet chats but there were no takers?
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Wonder whether there was no point under the circumstances because as soon as a club began to do some serious DD then it’d be a true…

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WillHayward said:
So I think we can now safely say this story has gone from "rumour" to "scandal".

It's mostly factual.
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Zen242 any updates from your sources or are they still having you on?
 
marcmurphy3 said:
Is it possible that Melbourne know they will have to sever ties with Oliver but need things to play out more to be able to terminate him?

Given the amount left on Oliver's contract I can't see how the two parties could possibly agree to
a settlement. I doubt Melbourne are keen to make a multi million dollar payout to a player that let them down and have that sitting in their cap.

It's like when you have underperforming staff member in any work place. You may know you want to fire them but you can't do it until you have enough evidence to do so without risk of legal repercussions.

That might be what Melbourne are doing and why they are keeping their cards close to their chest. I imagine the bar for outright termination would be quite high.

This is assuming the rumors are true. Just a possible theory.
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They can’t pay him out, he’d have to go on inactive list and be paid over his term. They may be able to accelerate the payout with spare cap space, but with a contending list, you wouldn’t think there’s much of that.
 
I hate to admit it but I feel sorry for the Dee's supporter with Oliver out of control having some sort of a drug fuelled mental breakdown after signing a 7 year contract hopes of another premiership are fading.
 
Caztheconquerer said:
Really hope Oliver gets the help he needs and comes back to play some great footy. Absolute superstar when up and going and such sad news at how much he is struggling. One of my favourite players to watch when at his best
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Maybe Jake Melksham can get him the help he needs?

 

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1970crow said:
They can’t pay him out, he’d have to go on inactive list and be paid over his term. They may be able to accelerate the payout with spare cap space, but with a contending list, you wouldn’t think there’s much of that.
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By pay him out I meant negotiate a settlement so they wouldn't have to pay the whole amount and he wouldn't have to remain on their list. Similar to the Dane Beams situation. But what I was alluding to is the amount left on Oliver's contract is so much that its hard to imagine a middle ground that both parties could agree to.
 
I don’t get the should have traded him when we had the chance. Does anyone really believe a club was committing to Oliver. 7 million over 7 years. A little bit of digging and any club interested would have walked away. Unless either Melbourne paid up a lot of the deal and took minimal picks. Or Oliver renegotiated his deal. Both unlikely.
 
markm106 said:
I don’t get the should have traded him when we had the chance. Does anyone really believe a club was committing to Oliver. 7 million over 7 years. A little bit of digging and any club interested would have walked away. Unless either Melbourne paid up a lot of the deal and took minimal picks. Or Oliver renegotiated his deal. Both unlikely.
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I don't think any club - even Melbourne - thought it was this bad.
 
The Cobra said:
Well if Melbourne didn’t they were asleep at the wheel!
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It seems pretty clear they were. They seem happy to let Goodwin do what he likes.

They are happy they got the flag in 2021 and seem content just coasting now.
 
marcmurphy3 said:
By pay him out I meant negotiate a settlement so they wouldn't have to pay the whole amount and he wouldn't have to remain on their list. Similar to the Dane Beams situation. But what I was alluding to is the amount left on Oliver's contract is so much that its hard to imagine a middle ground that both parties could agree to.
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Why would he walk away from his contractual right? When you want a contracted player out of a club you pay, it’s that simple.
 

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