Coaches - Best and Worst

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Coaches I highly respect:

Mark Thompson: Building a solid side, and getting the leadership group right at a club that apparently lacked leaders. Getting them to the next level when the wheels threatened to fall off under immense pressure.

Mathews: Obvious reasons, premiership success, the way he is straight down the line, and the way he handles the media.

Roos: Very smart coach, sly, great communicator, consistent, and shows respect. Class

Williams: Consistent, great football mind, love his articles when he writes.

Clarkson: Wouldn't swap him for anyone, love what he's done at Hawthorn so far, still has a way to go, but just commands respect from everyone at the club.

Malthouse: Like the way he gets his side to play. Given Collingwood's midfield over the last few years, certainly gets decent results out of his list.

Neil Craig: Astute, shows respect, and is a shrewd operator.

Rodney Eade: Like the way his sides play, and is probably the best match-day coach in the league IMO. Exploits opposition weaknesses second to none.

Don't really respect:

Terry Wallace: All talk and spin, no action. Self promoter, but can't really work out what he does as a coach that makes him anything but average so far. A good motivator, but modern football requires a lot more than that, and seems to be lacking in list developing, and talent development IMO.

Ross Lyon: St Kilda have gone stale under his command. Don't like the way he plays, and has brought nothing to the club, and could leave them in an awful position in a few years if he doesn't manage the upcoming list turnovers effectively.

Mark Harvey: Early days, but just think he's not all there, and isn't sure of himself and what needs to be done.

Unsure about:

Worsfold: Even though he's got a premiership, I'm still not sure where to rate him. Even when they were winning, I thought some of his game plan was questionable, and really it was all their super midfield that was dominating for mine. I'll be interested to see how he goes over the next few years developing a new list.

Knights: Early days, and has a set way, but I'm leaning towards that its not going to work out for Essendon, just a hunch more than anything solid to base that opinion around though.

Bailey: Terrible list, terrible results, but is highly respected by those in the know. I'll wait and see with him, but has a horrible job on and off field to really show his true colours unfortunately.

Laidley: I have no idea whether I rate him or not. Has very good tactics against us, and always plays to his strengths, but sometimes I also think that he plays too negatively. PRobably gets the best out of just an above average list though.
 
Dean Laidley is the best coach in the Australian Football League.

Reason being? or is it just because you are a North Melbourne supporter. He assed his way to a preliminary final, got beaten by a team that got beaten in the GF by 119 points, and just got flogged by fremantle and dropped out of the eight. Whoopty doo, what an awesome coach.
 
May I ask those criticising Bailey why they are doing so? I haven't seen any real reasons provided except 'the list is crap' which would mean it isn't his fault, is it?

Some good posts in this thread, but some real idiots as well.

Clarko top 3?
ROFL :D
 

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A lot (but not all) of Craig's poor finals record is to do with bad luck. We copped a few impact injuries at the wrong times, and happened to run into the one side we can't seem to beat in the prelim in both 2005/6. Conjecture, yes, but we would have beaten Sydney had we the chance to play them. We have an excellent recent record against them at any ground.
Craig is an excellent coach. He hasn't yet taken out a flag, no, and his game day coaching needs improvement, but his win/loss record is elite.

Perhaps I'm being far too black and white, but to keep it simple, you've got two choices. Either you rate Craig, or you rate our list in 2005/6 as better than where they finished (prelim finals).

To say he has nothing to show for his time is blatantly wrong and shows how uninformed (or biased) you are.

At the very least, he won us our first McClelland trophy :eek:


u cant possibly mean that? yes sydney have been adelaides little bitch recently in the h&a season, hopefully that will end asap.... but sydney and adelaide are both far different teams under the finals pressure cooker
 
My favourites:

Roos- Has a good demeanor off the field, on game day and even after a loss. Seems pretty fair, not one to complain until the cows come home but is tough enough to have the playing group under his command. Has won a premiership as well, so has backed it all up with results.

Matthews- Just an absolute champion of the game who has had credibility for a very long time. Good at club PR off the field and pays plenty of respect to opposition teams. Appears pretty genuine.

Eade- Due to my own bias most likely. I just think he does a fabulous job for a club that requires good off-field PR for financial reasons. He took on way too much responsibility last year to help out the club financially, which is admirable, but luckily he and the club came to their senses and realised that only coaching should command his attention

My Least Favourites:

Harvey: I don't think it's fair to heavily criticise a first year coach (coach changes usually occur when a club is in crisis so it's highly doubtful a club is going to miraculously change a club around in 12 games). But that said, he needs media training because whether he wants to accept it or not, the public will judge him and his side by not only what we see on the field but also how he handles under pressure during media commitments.

Wallace: Didn't mind him when he was at the bulldogs, and I'm not disliking him out of hatred for him walking out. I am just genuinely sick of reading his spin. I read an article on Saturday morning in the Herald Sun and the amount of excuses that he came up with was just rediculous. He needs to stand up and be accountable. Paid up members deserve honesty.
 
Way too early to judge any first year coach. The reason they are first year coaches is because the last coach got sacked, and the reason they got sacked is because teh teams are $%#^!

Matthews has to be No.1 - 4 priemierships leads the pack.

The worst has to Wallace. How many coaches get 10 or 15 years with so little finals success? Not even a GF?
 
Best coach in the land by some margin....

Paul Roos

then there is a swag of them there abouts

bottom 4 is obvious, the 4 new ones.

Bailey, Harvey, Ratten, Knights.

Ratten has gone 6 wins, 6 losses this season, and won 6 of his last 9 games as coach. Hardly bottom 4 thus far.
 
Coaches I highly respect:

Mark Thompson: Building a solid side, and getting the leadership group right at a club that apparently lacked leaders. Getting them to the next level when the wheels threatened to fall off under immense pressure.

Mathews: Obvious reasons, premiership success, the way he is straight down the line, and the way he handles the media.

Roos: Very smart coach, sly, great communicator, consistent, and shows respect. Class

Williams: Consistent, great football mind, love his articles when he writes.

Clarkson: Wouldn't swap him for anyone, love what he's done at Hawthorn so far, still has a way to go, but just commands respect from everyone at the club.

Malthouse: Like the way he gets his side to play. Given Collingwood's midfield over the last few years, certainly gets decent results out of his list.

Neil Craig: Astute, shows respect, and is a shrewd operator.

Rodney Eade: Like the way his sides play, and is probably the best match-day coach in the league IMO. Exploits opposition weaknesses second to none.

Don't really respect:

Terry Wallace: All talk and spin, no action. Self promoter, but can't really work out what he does as a coach that makes him anything but average so far. A good motivator, but modern football requires a lot more than that, and seems to be lacking in list developing, and talent development IMO.

Ross Lyon: St Kilda have gone stale under his command. Don't like the way he plays, and has brought nothing to the club, and could leave them in an awful position in a few years if he doesn't manage the upcoming list turnovers effectively.

Mark Harvey: Early days, but just think he's not all there, and isn't sure of himself and what needs to be done.

Unsure about:

Worsfold: Even though he's got a premiership, I'm still not sure where to rate him. Even when they were winning, I thought some of his game plan was questionable, and really it was all their super midfield that was dominating for mine. I'll be interested to see how he goes over the next few years developing a new list.

Knights: Early days, and has a set way, but I'm leaning towards that its not going to work out for Essendon, just a hunch more than anything solid to base that opinion around though.

Bailey: Terrible list, terrible results, but is highly respected by those in the know. I'll wait and see with him, but has a horrible job on and off field to really show his true colours unfortunately.

Laidley: I have no idea whether I rate him or not. Has very good tactics against us, and always plays to his strengths, but sometimes I also think that he plays too negatively. PRobably gets the best out of just an above average list though.

Where does Ratten fit in?
 
Coaching Legends: Matthews, Malthouse.
Excellent Coaches: Roos.
Very Good Coaches: Clarkson, Thompson.
Good Coaches: Eade, Williams, Worsfold.
Average Coaches: Laidley, Craig, Ratten.
Poor Coaches: Bailey, Knights, Wallace.
Awful Coaches: Lyon, Harvey.
 
Mathews has proven he is a great coach.

Roos for my mind is great (yes i'm a swans fan but thats not what i'm basing my decision on)

He took over a team that was losing badly at the end of a season and instantly turned them round, if he had a few more games he might have got them to the finals. 2003 in his first year he got them to the prelim final even though they were picked to finish dead last by most, made the finals every year even though every year the 'experts' predict the swans to free fall, has the ability to adjust on game day (wouldn't say he's the best at it though) is media friendly, and can identify players both fringe and youngsters and develop them well, and willing to bring in new coaching and management techniques into the game, can't ask for anything more in a coach IMO.
 

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LOL at people saying Clarkson.

Agreed. I'm sorry Clarko is well on the way but he can not be rated above Matthews, Roos, Williams or Malthouse and not having a flag means he has no right to be rated above Thompson or Worsfold either.

9.M.Thompson - really, he just has a talented team.thats it.

A talented team he built and nurtured. Has not had the luxury of a whole bunch of top 5 picks either.
 
#1 Matthews
#2 Roos
#3 Williams
#4 Malthouse

The rest

I am amazed at Malthouse being rated so highly 500 games 2 premierships did well at the bullies but really with the money at WC results very average and with the Eddie millions nothing.

On sunday he took rhys shaw off judd a really smart move and a game winner for the Blues and does he ever stop wingeing Coach grumpy.
 
16. Bailey - really too early to be giving him this award, but he's going much worse that harvey who we all seem to like to bag. quote]

Bailey is a better coach than Harvey and their is more up side to melbourne as we have younger guys runnnig round as opposed to freo older players. Also Bailey presents well in the media, whereas harvey sounds retarted and cannot speak properly!
 

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