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List Mgmt. Collingwood FS & NGA "Peter Daicos Academy" kids
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Could play in the U-16's Comp then
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Oooooh, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please!!!!!
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I hope you're right. I'd like to think another Daicos would be running around for us sometime. My favourite player as a kid. I hope his offspring do something similar to Gary Ablett Jnr. I know that's a stretch but he was such an amazing player and it would be awesome for us to have another one.If there was ever a father son capable of producing a gun for us it was Daics, just so much magic
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It would be really interesting to see how someone like Daics would go in today's game though. I know there are players these days who don't have much speed, but they are generally inside ball winning machines, which Daics wasn't.
Not at all detracting from Daics - was an absolute champion of his era, but I do certainly hope his kids have a little more speed than he did, as the game of AFL they will be pushing for is one that is vastly different to the one their old man played.
Daicos had elite skill and agility. He would slot into our best 22 in a heartbeat.
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Absolutely elite skill- there would not be a single person who would ever debate that. Elite agility...? I'm not sure about that one. And so running through other characteristics: Elite mind? Certainly. Pace? Below average by his own admission. Endurance? Probably average at best in his era. Leap? Probably average to below average in his era.
A slower (and probably less fit) Didak is probably the best comparison to who he would be like these days, I guess. And so then thinking it through, if you took Didak from last year, removed a yard or so of pace and fitness, and added maybe a point or two of football intelligence, would they make the side?
Not having a go at Daics at all (one of my favourite players) just reflecting on the changing physical requirements of current day AFL players and what that would mean for some champions from other eras.
Remember that Daics was a terrific centreman before being moved forward
Yeah he'd still smash it. He would have a higher fitness base, due to the increased training they do these days. He may not be a sprinter but his fitness wasn't really an issue and by agile, I mean he was handy in traffic. Not that he would make the opposition seem slow so much as his quick decisions making and ability to get ball to boot affectively would mean he had time in traffic. He'd be a gem and just the forward we are currently lacking. No question in my mind he'd be a starter. Think a much better Didak at his best.
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Yep, I agree. Daics wouls still be in the side and would still be successful.
Looking forward to getting his kids into the side too, hopefully.
Looking forward to getting his kids into the side too, hopefully.
"A slower (and probably less fit) Didak is probably the best comparison to who he would be like these days"
Look mate Dids was a silky player but comparing the two is stretching it a bit. Daics was a class midfielder who was forced forward by injury and then game plan who then dominated a forward line for 6-7 years. Dids was a goal sneak who used his lovely left foot to hurt sides that gave him too much space. Dids is more your Rod Oborne clone.
Daics and other "slow coaches" like Greg Williams and Tony Shaw, Jezza and Baldock, Skilts and Barry Cable would not only still fit into todays game plans they would dominate just as they did in their heydays. You can't coach what these men had (skill by the bucketload) they are / were footballers. I think they'd struggle with a beep test (though Shawy did go on to run marathons) but in a 1:1 contest for a footy Daics and his ilk would win the ball and kick the goal before many of today's players could remember their coach's instructions!
Look mate Dids was a silky player but comparing the two is stretching it a bit. Daics was a class midfielder who was forced forward by injury and then game plan who then dominated a forward line for 6-7 years. Dids was a goal sneak who used his lovely left foot to hurt sides that gave him too much space. Dids is more your Rod Oborne clone.
Daics and other "slow coaches" like Greg Williams and Tony Shaw, Jezza and Baldock, Skilts and Barry Cable would not only still fit into todays game plans they would dominate just as they did in their heydays. You can't coach what these men had (skill by the bucketload) they are / were footballers. I think they'd struggle with a beep test (though Shawy did go on to run marathons) but in a 1:1 contest for a footy Daics and his ilk would win the ball and kick the goal before many of today's players could remember their coach's instructions!
Lol if Daics was slow then the rest of the AFL back then must of been Glaciers cause they can't keep up with him in any of his highlight reels and you can see he is moving relatively quick in them may not be usain bolt but far from plodder.
The didak comparisons are off too Daicos was much more able in contested situations and wasn't purely outside like Didak.
The didak comparisons are off too Daicos was much more able in contested situations and wasn't purely outside like Didak.
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When it comes to Daics, Stevie J is the closest comparison of the modern era. If his body held up, he'd be a star of the modern era, but that's a big if. His body only jsut held up in a much less physically demanding era.
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Can't agree. There's no way that Tony Shaw would have found himself on a list. Slow, 170 cm, inaccurate kick with a maximum distance of 35 metres - not draftable. Diesel would have absolutely dominated state leagues until somebody eventually took the punt and drafted him and they would have been handsomely rewarded (assuming that he learnt to run both ways.
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Without thinking too much about it, my take would be:
No disrespect to Dids but Daics is WAY better on ability*** and achievements. As mentioned by others above, Daics was an elite centre man before moving forward to be an elite forward for a long, long time.
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The discussion about who of our past stars would make it in the modern era is always difficult. Tony Shaw was seen as too small, too slow, and couldn't kick. Modern recruiters might overlook him. Yet he led us to a premiership in 1990 because he had heart, courage, determination. Qualities which will always be valued in footy. Hopefully recruiters still look for these qualities in modern footy athletes, but they wont show up on beep or sprint tests.
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Apologies all, I seem to have contributed to the thread being derailed. And what's more, I withdraw my questioning of Daic's making it in today's game - he absolutely would. Watching his highlights again made me realise how silly my questioning was.
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Going off this thread with estimated ages:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/future-magpies-watch-11-12.794022/
His eldest Isaac is close to 16/17 this year.
Others close to draft age are estimated to be:
Zac Monkhorst would be 17/18 this year.
Ryley Monkorst is 16/17 this year.
Will Stewart is 16/17 this year.
Ethan Wright 15/16 this year.
Josh Daicos reportedly 15.
Josh Crossica and James Wright 14/15.
Looking at that there are quite a few eligible should they be any good over the next 3-4 drafts.
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He was slightly before my time so I don't want to give to firm an opinion or say others are wrong with theirs, but he would be a gun today regardless of engine, speed and contested ability.
The Daicos I know of had an amazing football brain comparable today with only Enright, IMO. In today's game he would work the angles, push forward or back at the opportune time and always have time to make use of his incredible skills. Put him on a back flank and he'd get 25-30 every week and be involved in 6-8 scoring chains.
Literally the only doubt I'd have on him is durability, and to keep it somewhat on topic, I hope his kids don't get that from him because the last thing we need is more kids prone to injury
The Daicos I know of had an amazing football brain comparable today with only Enright, IMO. In today's game he would work the angles, push forward or back at the opportune time and always have time to make use of his incredible skills. Put him on a back flank and he'd get 25-30 every week and be involved in 6-8 scoring chains.
Literally the only doubt I'd have on him is durability, and to keep it somewhat on topic, I hope his kids don't get that from him because the last thing we need is more kids prone to injury
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If there was ever a father son capable of producing a gun for us it was Daics, just so much magic
Hope his wife is about 194cm....
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Peter Daicos is a legend of the game, for mine he would make it in any era.
Was an elite midfielder, had a shocking run with injuries in the middle of his career then re-invented himself as a phenomenal goal kicking forward pocket with freakish skills and goal sense.
For those who never saw him, he just did not miss from any angle and I have never seen a player kick truly from either boundary line with the consistency of Daicos.
Was an elite midfielder, had a shocking run with injuries in the middle of his career then re-invented himself as a phenomenal goal kicking forward pocket with freakish skills and goal sense.
For those who never saw him, he just did not miss from any angle and I have never seen a player kick truly from either boundary line with the consistency of Daicos.
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