Oppo Camp Other Clubs News/General Discussion

[Pragmatic Shill]

The only saving grace is that it has a trigger clause, so if career trajectory doesn’t go as planned at least there’s some sort of fail-safe. I’d be interested to know what the triggers are though.

According to Tom Morris, it's games played.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

The only saving grace is that it has a trigger clause, so if career trajectory doesn’t go as planned at least there’s some sort of fail-safe. I’d be interested to know what the triggers are though.

Just to add to my previous reply, if he plays 60 games between 2026 and 2030 it triggers the remaining four years.

 

[Apex36]

I’m not agreeing nor disagreeing with your post here just offering some context to my own.

Knowing what we now do does 9 years at $12m signed back in 2017 seem reasonable for Moore? We’re talking about a guy that’s shown roughly the same, but without the injury profile Moore had across his first 3 seasons. That contract would have seemed mad back in 2017 $’s, but would now be when it actually kicks into gear when $1m is par for the course for that type of player. The equivalent in 2024 $’s is closer to $18m over the life of the deal Andrew has signed.

The biggest flaw in it is going to be 2-3 years from now when he’s on $600-800k and there’s offers coming thick and fast at $1.5-2m pa. What it highlights to me is the need to find a couple of elite talls to come through our system because we’ve got Naicos through to the end of the decade on give or take $1m a year. How do you go out big game hunting when you’ve got the best player in the game taking unders? We can hardly throw $1.5m at JUH next time he’s off contract after what he dished up on Friday night, but that’s what it’ll take to dislodge him…

You need a top drawer FD to attract talent within a defined pay structure. We currently don’t have that efficient FD which is why the draft should be our focus, IMO.

Even knowing what we now know I’d say that sort of contract would absolutely not have been reasonable for Moore. Even without his injury history.

Hell, knowing what we know know about the absolute shit show that long term big money contracts can cause, I’d still argue that it would have been bat shit insane. I hope our club has learned from the long term deal failures we’ve had. I’m sure Melbourne are rethinking their contract strategies now they’re stuck with a $1.3m midfielder who absolutely does not want to be at their club.

 

[Apex36]

Just to add to my previous reply, if he plays 60 games between 2026 and 2030 it triggers the remaining four years.

So barely a trigger at all then. Batshit insane deal.

 

[TW Sherrin]

World has gone mad. 41 games and 9 goals gets you 12M.

 

[jmac70]

World has gone mad. 41 games and 9 goals gets you 12M.

It’s seems a tad high.

 

[JuniorB]

World has gone mad. 41 games and 9 goals gets you 12M.

So the Suns need to clear some cap space - we can help!
Withe the right first round draft pick incentive.

 

[Jen2310]

So the Suns need to clear some cap space - we can help!
Withe the right first round draft pick incentive.

The deal doesn't even kick in until 2026, so they have time.

 

[SchuPie]

So the Suns need to clear some cap space - we can help!
Withe the right first round draft pick incentive.

And we’ve come full circle back to lukosius

 

[JuniorB]

And we’ve come full circle back to lukosius

Salary dump time, because he'll still be getting $1M in 2026 when Andrew's new deal kicks in.
Trade season is almost more fascinating than the footy season.

 

[sr36]

If I ever see another bail out at GC again I’ll spew
How the hell can a club just hand out a $12m deal in the biggest deal in history is laughable

To a promising 3rd year player, who is yet to really deliver, and has had off field issues...

 

[JLC]

To a promising 3rd year player, who is yet to really deliver, and has had off field issues...

I think this deal for a club that has so many younger players coming through, is a bad one.

What happens when 1 or 2 of these players out perform Mac and want their contract renewed?

Hopefully for the Suns they judged his character right. To me the Grundy deal was always a bad one as Grundy never seemed to have the genuine love of the game. With that financial security the hunger and desire can drop. That's only natural? Whereas Nick Daicos is a problem per pro and a deal like that wouldn't change his desire imo.

 

[sr36]

I think this deal for a club that has so many younger players coming through, is a bad one.

What happens when 1 or 2 of these players out perform Mac and want their contract renewed?

Hopefully for the Suns they judged his character right. To me the Grundy deal was always a bad one as Grundy never seemed to have the genuine love of the game. With that financial security the hunger and desire can drop. That's only natural? Whereas Nick Daicos is a problem per pro and a deal like that wouldn't change his desire imo.

If some of the salaries being discussed, it just feels like some clubs are going to **** up the salary cap increase. They'll view the gap they now have as disposable and pay way too much for some players, rather than the reality that they're inevitably going to have to spread the increase throughout their list as contracts come up.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

 

[Jen2310]

I wonder who replaces him?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I wonder who replaces him?

They're running out of options down back ..

 

[Harry O]

Fox Footy promoting an interview Dunstall did with 4 young Hawks this week

Some interesting (some would say derogatory) remarks made by Ginni about AFLW players

 

[JLC]

Fox Footy promoting an interview Dunstall did with 4 young Hawks this week

Some interesting (some would say derogatory) remarks made by Ginni about AFLW players

Ginni is the flavour of the month. If there is blame to be apportioned it will no doubt be our fault lol

 

[Harry O]

Carlton have delisted Hack Martin

 

[Jen2310]

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[ElliottsMaggies]

Waiting for the media to link this spud to us too

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Funny listening to Hawks supporters sooking about & asking why so many oppo supporters are hating on them... welcome to our world

 

[sr36]

Waiting for the media to link this spud to us too

He can't get on the park, but he's not a spud.

 

[Soups]

Carlton have delisted Hack Martin

St.Kilda licking their lips for one of their yearly recycled spuds

Also, can’t believe Orazio was kept before him

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

He can't get on the park, but he's not a spud.

As useful as a spud if he can't get on the park.