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Once the Vic clubs have spent say, 2 weeks in Qld, they should be able to come straight here without quarantine right?
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Sounds like the loophole. Goes against Covid safety principles but whatever
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Yep.
And it also makes sense that Collingwood and Geelong stop here on the way back from Perth.
I'd suggest we play Brisbane in Brisbane, GWS in Sydney,Sydney at home, then the Melbourne teams can start coming in to SA from WA and NSW after that.
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I do take pleasure in seeing the AFL forced to do things that they and the Vic clubs hate.
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If the VFL weren't so intent on having a Victorian sporting festival around Melbourne cup, the simplest solution is to have a bye round, send all the Vic teams out of Victoria, let them do 14 day quarantine and then for 3 weeks there are teams in 4 hubs + a Tassie hub with North and Hawks and then you can have teams fly out of those states to another where they don't have to do quarananting.
Or if the do, its WA style, Collingwood and Geelong spend 7 days in a hotel, then 2 new teams play, then next 2 weeks those 2 visiting teams play the home team over the next 2 weekends.
Or if the do, its WA style, Collingwood and Geelong spend 7 days in a hotel, then 2 new teams play, then next 2 weeks those 2 visiting teams play the home team over the next 2 weekends.
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Yep. That's why North and Hawks should be sent to Tassie. Its their second market
My bad Tassie still has 14 day quarantining, but there are exemptions.
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So why would we stay in an interstate hub? Why not base both SA teams in Adelaide and have the Victorian clubs fly in and out of Adelaide? Once they have served a two week quarantine of course. Both SA teams relocate to Adelaide and play teams at home or in an interstate hub on alternate weeks. That would be much cheaper for the AFL as they would only be paying to fly one team around the countryside. That is assuming the SA/NSW border is opened on July 20th and that all States are OK with quarantined teams flying in and out of their jurisdiction.
If the AFL decides to relocate the Victorian teams the hubs should only be relevant to the Victorians. Of course we are dealing with the AFL and they will not want to see the Victorian teams 'disadvantaged' and I guess that answers my original question. The fact that the Power and Crows have played one this year won't be seen as disadvantage.
The more I put this proposition the more I can see us getting shafted here.
It is time the AFL gets the the Victorian teams out of Victoria in the coming week. You could stagger round 5 and 6 games over the next couple of weeks. Move Carlton and St. Kilda out to NSW Friday or Saturday into a NSW hub. Move Collingwood into WA on Sunday. Keep Essendon in Victoria so they can play Melbourne on Thursday night of Round 6. Move Geelong to QLD in the day or so that they start quarantine and reschedule the suns games post their quarantine. Leave Hawthorn in NSW post their game. Melbourne and Essendon to head to NSW hub after they play next Thursday. Split the remaining teams between WA and NSW. Revise the hubs after 6 weeks, all teams will be based and play in states where 14 day Quarantine is not needed, so teams an FIFO and play in front of crowds. The AFL need to move ASAP, before all states start requiring Victorian teams to quarantine for 14 days. Time for the VFL to actually evolve into the AFL.
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Interesting. Victoria hasn't released its numbers for today yet, nor has a time been given.
Maybe because they're bad and the announcement will come with news of further restrictions which are still being worked out.
Maybe because they're bad and the announcement will come with news of further restrictions which are still being worked out.
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It should not matter where the hubs are as once you get the Victorian teams out of Melbourne and quarantined plus the ability to fly between all States bar Vicoria you should have the flexibilty to programme a nation wide competition. The hubs should only give the Victorian clubs a training base and a place to play home games outside of Victoria. But as I posted this is the AFL and you can bet we will get shafted. You can bet the AFL will see SA teams playing in Adelaide while the poor Victorians have to circle the country to play as an unfair advantage to the SA teams. After all, that reasoning on the part of the AFL is exactly why we are not fielding sides in the SANFL this year.
There are a few provisos of course but 25 years of experience will tell us both that we are going to get shafted.
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I suspect you are right they have been slow the last couple of days and we probably both know why.
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Travel restrictions between the states. From The Guardian, says its from 29 June 18.05.
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Can I holiday in another state?
New South Wales – Residents are allowed to leave NSW, and visitors don’t need to quarantine. Since 1 June, anyone in Australia has been able to travel to regional NSW for a holiday.
Victoria – There are no restrictions on leaving or entering Victoria. Since 1 June, overnight stays at tourist accommodation, caravan parks and camping grounds without communal facilities, have been permitted.
Queensland – No, entry into Queensland is prohibited unless you have applied for and been granted an exemption. But Queensland is set to open its borders from 10 July, as long as case numbers remain low.
Tasmania – All non-essential travellers to Tasmania, including returning residents, must quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. Non-Tasmanian residents must carry out their quarantine in government-provided accommodation.
Western Australia – You cannot enter Western Australia unless you are granted an exemption on application. There is no date for when the interstate border will reopen.
South Australia – People from Queensland, WA, the NT and Tasmania can enter South Australia without having to quarantine for 14 days. But people from NSW and Victoria will have to – until 20 July, when the quarantine requirement will be lifted for all domestic travellers.
Northern Territory – Unless you have been granted an exemption, anyone entering the Northern Territory must complete 14 days of mandatory self-quarantine. International arrivals still have to undertake a Government-mandated and supervised quarantine, and are required to pay $2,500 per person, or $5,000 for a family of two or more, to cover the cost. The NT will open its borders to domestic travellers on 17 July.
ACT – There are no border restrictions.
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Can I holiday in another state?
New South Wales – Residents are allowed to leave NSW, and visitors don’t need to quarantine. Since 1 June, anyone in Australia has been able to travel to regional NSW for a holiday.
Victoria – There are no restrictions on leaving or entering Victoria. Since 1 June, overnight stays at tourist accommodation, caravan parks and camping grounds without communal facilities, have been permitted.
Queensland – No, entry into Queensland is prohibited unless you have applied for and been granted an exemption. But Queensland is set to open its borders from 10 July, as long as case numbers remain low.
Tasmania – All non-essential travellers to Tasmania, including returning residents, must quarantine for 14 days upon arrival. Non-Tasmanian residents must carry out their quarantine in government-provided accommodation.
Western Australia – You cannot enter Western Australia unless you are granted an exemption on application. There is no date for when the interstate border will reopen.
South Australia – People from Queensland, WA, the NT and Tasmania can enter South Australia without having to quarantine for 14 days. But people from NSW and Victoria will have to – until 20 July, when the quarantine requirement will be lifted for all domestic travellers.
Northern Territory – Unless you have been granted an exemption, anyone entering the Northern Territory must complete 14 days of mandatory self-quarantine. International arrivals still have to undertake a Government-mandated and supervised quarantine, and are required to pay $2,500 per person, or $5,000 for a family of two or more, to cover the cost. The NT will open its borders to domestic travellers on 17 July.
ACT – There are no border restrictions.
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RussellEbertHandball
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It does matter which hub you stick them in, because if there aren't quarantine exemptions it stuffs up doing the draw.
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South Australia cancels plans to reopen borders on 20 July
The premier of South Australia, Steven Marshall, has just announced that the state will not be reopening its borders as planned on 20 July. He says the decision was made on basis of concerns about the recent outbreak in Melbourne and that there may be exceptions for travellers coming from NSW and the ACT.
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As I said there are provisos but if you programme a bye and allow Essendon and Melbourne to play the postponed game while in quarantine on the week end of the bye all Victorian teams are quarantined and the competition is on an even keel again. As far as SA goes Steven Marshall only mentioned Victoria when he spoke of 14 days quarantine as our borders to all states bar Victoria and NSW are open. If the Victorians are in hubs outside of Victoria and have quarantined there should not be a problem.
There are some decisions to be made by State Governments for sure but they are not insurmountable and it should be possible to have a national competition excluding Victoria. I do not see the States as the problem I see the AFL as the stumbling block.
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Marshall said the Vic teams would have to be 14 days in a hub before they considered to be let into SA. He didn't say its a definite yet. But then those teams flying back from SA have to be allowed into their hub state without quarantine.
At the moment if a Vic team plays in SA, then they can only fly into Victoria or NSW without 14 day quarantine. Qld are supposed to lift all their travel restrictions on July 10th. If that is delayed by a month you might not see an SA team play at AO until mid August, unless things change.
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The phrase interstate teams should never be used again after 2020.
It should be National teams vs Victorian teams. Victorian teams aren't prepared to be national teams and play anywhere.
It should be National teams vs Victorian teams. Victorian teams aren't prepared to be national teams and play anywhere.
How good is this! And most importantly we are getting paid for it!
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The team bonding will pay off for a couple of years too!
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The Age is reporting that the Federal government is working with the Victorian government to potentially enforce lockdowns of hot spot local government areas in Melbourne. A press conference will be held later this afternoon. That's big news
The issue with this isn't SA, it's that Qld and WA both require a 14 day quarantine for travellers coming from SA. Makes sense, right?
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Hahahaha! I was thinking EXACTLY that. We have played in every single stadium, or very close to all of them, in which the AFL have hold matches. Somehow, this now has become an unfair advantage for us!
I imagine more will be known later today when Queensland announce their plan to start reopening their borders. Anyone know if WA is closer to making a similar announcement?
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"So any teams coming in from Victoria to South Australia will have to do that two weeks of isolation.
"Any South Australian team that plays a Victorian team or goes to Victoria to play a Victorian team will have to do that two weeks of isolation on return to our state."
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"Any South Australian team that plays a Victorian team or goes to Victoria to play a Victorian team will have to do that two weeks of isolation on return to our state."
Sydney looms large for AFL games after SA border decision
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