Coronavirus 2020 / Worldwide (Stats live update in OP) Part 7: This Thread is for Reasonable ON TOPIC Discussion

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In the peak fortnight of the outbreak to date (25 August to 7 September), the COVID-19 case rate among 2-dose vaccinated people was 49.5 per 100,000 while in unvaccinated people it was 561 per 100,000, a more than 10-fold difference. The rates of COVID-19 ICU admissions or deaths peaked in the fortnight 8 September to 21 September at 0.9 per 100,000 in 2-dose vaccinated people compared to 15.6 per 100,000 in unvaccinated people, a greater than 16-fold difference.
 
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Poetic Justice said:
It’s more about the time in lockdown than the fear factor
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You would think under risk and reward, the risk would be greater for people not locked down.
If you got pinged in lockdown you not going to change much but you might be able to reduce lockdown by complying
 
You would think people with less rules to break and able to go about their lives relatively normally would be more compliant.

But keep playing the fear card.

One day we will get back to normal and many people will go on to do and experience amazing things...for others they will return to their sad existence envious of the day when their mediocre existence was fashionable.
 
Brasher said:
You would think people with less rules to break and able to go about their lives relatively normally would be more compliant.

But keep playing the fear card.

One day we will get back to normal and many people will go on to do and experience amazing things...for others they will return to their sad existence envious of the day when their mediocre existence was fashionable.
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QR codes and Vax passports will be normal for while before that happens
 
Hawk Dork said:
QR codes and Vax passports will be normal for while before that happens
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I've got no issue with either as long as we open up to actually do something worth qr coding for. Going to 7 11 doesn't cut it.
 
Hawk Dork said:
QR codes and Vax passports will be normal for while before that happens
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if that is a normal requirement for me to live a relatively normal life then I am more than happy to accomodate
 
Deliverance said:
And rightly so. Double vaxxed people aren't going to QR code at woolies to get some milk, but they will at a nightclub with 1000 other people.
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One will have a bouncer

They are QR coding at Woolies in regional Qld is what I am seeing,,,nearly 100% every where I went
 
Brad Goodman said:
I think she was just using him as an example of the effect Covid can have on a young healthy person.

Of course people who need treatment after catching it due to their own flippancy can’t be refused that treatment, but by the same token if it ends up killing them they don't deserve to be mourned. No different to when a drunk driver slams into a tree or someone gets murdered in prison.
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Don't deserve to be mourned? Disgraceful thing to say.
 

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The last 18 months has been a great (and it would appear wasted) opportunity to build resilience in kids. Life is essentially a string of crap things happening and the key to happiness is accepting and dealing with this reality.
 
Deliverance said:
Nope, not in the slightest. An insanely large amount of people die or get hospitalised evey year because of lots of different choices. This is just another one of those choices.


Dan's kid did VCE last year with special consideration. He doesn't give a sh*t about other Victorians.
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Hardly anyone seems to give a shit about kids, it's depressing.
 
QR code and passport all ok if you have something to do with it

Rumour is Dan will go slowly slowly then move goalposts again.



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A lot of this is because we still not swimming in vax
I also wonder when we hit the wall of people getting vaxed.. I suprised we get up to 80%
90% be a bridge too far I say for some
 
Brad Goodman said:
The last 18 months has been a great (and it would appear wasted) opportunity to build resilience in kids. Life is essentially a string of crap things happening and the key to happiness is accepting and dealing with this reality.
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Resilience doesn't form as a result of ongoing stress, trauma does. Especially for this with less resources at their disposal.
 
Brad Goodman said:
The last 18 months has been a great (and it would appear wasted) opportunity to build resilience in kids. Life is essentially a string of crap things happening and the key to happiness is accepting and dealing with this reality.
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Yeah the best childhood needs a little bit of trauma. No trauma and your not prepared for the real world. Too much trauma can **** you up though. Like Goldilocks you need just the right amount. I would argue we haven't got the balance right for our kids during the pandemic.
 
For the first time in Alabama’s known history, the state had more deaths than births in 2020 — a grim milestone that underscores the pandemic’s calamitous toll.

“Our state literally shrunk in 2020,” Dr. Scott Harris, Alabama’s state health officer, said at a news conference on Friday.
There were 64,714 total deaths in the state last year, compared to 57,641 births, Dr. Harris said.

Such a gap had never been recorded, not even during World War I, World War II and the flu pandemic of 1918, Dr. Harris said.
Going back to the earliest available records, in 1900, “We’ve never had a time when deaths exceeded births,” he said.
 
SJ17 said:
Yeah the best childhood needs a little bit of trauma. No trauma and your not prepared for the real world. Too much trauma can fu** you up though. Like Goldilocks you need just the right amount. I would argue we haven't got the balance right for our kids during the pandemic.
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Wouldn’t disagree with that. Experiencing adversity is crucial to being healthy and well adjusted, but it does need sufficient support infrastructure being there to facilitate growth in those who can’t do so internally.
 
Anti vaxers are going for monoclonal antibodies just as experimental as Vax and cost $2g not $20

Trump and Rogan used them and Republican anti vax governors are ordering up big

Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much. Orders have exploded so quickly this summer — to 168,000 doses per week in late August, up from 27,000 in July — that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.

With seven Southern states accounting for 70 percent of orders, the new process has unsettled some of their governors, who have made the antibody treatment central to their strategy for enduring a catastrophic wave of the Delta variant.

Amid a din of antivaccine falsehoods, monoclonal antibodies have become the rare coronavirus medicine to achieve near-universal acceptance.
Championed by mainstream doctors and conservative radio hosts alike, the infusions have kept the country’s death toll — 2,000 per day and climbing — from soaring even higher.

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They Shunned Covid Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment

Championed by doctors and conservative radio hosts alike, monoclonal antibodies for Covid are in high demand — even from those who don’t want a vaccine.
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