Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #3: Vaccines

Where do you stand with COVID-19 vaccines?

  • I've already been vaccinated (at least once)

    Votes: 24 27.6%

  • I intend to get vaccinated soon (first shot)

    Votes: 12 13.8%

  • I'll wait for more studies or doctor's advice

    Votes: 7 8.0%

  • I'll wait until old age or a safer vaccine

    Votes: 5 5.7%

  • I don't intend to get any Covid vaccine

    Votes: 39 44.8%
  • Total voters
    87

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Lethal Knights said:
This is just sad. Film maker Peter Spann dies after getting vaccinated.

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This is interesting. I can't really find anything much about this, certainly nothing n MSM websites, just a few mentions on forums and such. So it's either fake news or they are trying very hard to hide it. Either way, not good.
 
Catfish Alley said:
I did. Just saying that Fox is mainstream. Many would have seen this, but many would dismiss it because of the presenter.
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Yeah, so much this. I don't mind Carlson but his reputation precedes him at this point.
owen87 said:
Tucker has pretty consistently presented misleading or outright false information, I think he's well and truly lost the right to have content judged distinct from the messenger.

Everything he presents comes with an intentional bias.
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Every single media outlet has intentional bias. Left, right, conservative, they're all there.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
We've had it too good for too long, the lucky country. It's going to bite us on the bum if we don't watch out.
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My grandparents and grandparents in laws are in their mid to late 70s. Born just after WWII. Born after the war but probably pass away just as the dystopian Owellian future approaches.
Sure they had to work hard as ****, but outside of that their lives were pretty simplistic and easy. And now they have comfortable retirements. If only they knew how good they've had it.
 
Bumpswithagrin said:
This is interesting. I can't really find anything much about this, certainly nothing n MSM websites, just a few mentions on forums and such. So it's either fake news or they are trying very hard to hide it. Either way, not good.
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I'd never heard of him, but his Facebook page confirms the bad news. Only 54 years old.
 
ioppolo said:
My grandparents and grandparents in laws are in their mid to late 70s. Born just after WWII. Born after the war but probably pass away just as the dystopian Owellian future approaches.
Sure they had to work hard as fu**, but outside of that their lives were pretty simplistic and easy. And now they have comfortable retirements. If only they knew how good they've had it.
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This is my older siblings. One of them in particular had a govt job (as did his wife) and retired early (mid 50s) on extremely generous govt guaranteed benefit superannuation pensions (don't think they are available anymore). They take advantage of every middle class welfare scheme going round (they got solar panels on their roof when the govt scheme was available for example, have negatively geared properties and so on). They are the stereotypical boomers. I love them but right now we are not talking as they are totally unsympathetic to what I have had to go through because of these lockdowns and have already had their jabs.
 
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Bumpswithagrin said:
This is my older siblings. One of them in particular had a govt job (as did his wife) and retired early (mid 50s) on extremely generous govt retired benefit superannuation pensions (don't think they are available anymore). They take advantage of every middle class welfare scheme going round (they got solar panels on their roof when the govt scheme was available for example, have negatively geared properties and so on). They are the stereotypical boomers. I love them but right now we are not talking as they are totally unsympathetic to what I have had to go through because of these lockdowns and have already had their jabs.
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My in-laws retired in their 60s (fair enough, not their fault that isn't really the case anymore) but boy did they have it easy with their income. Not only do they get an Aussie pension each, but they also get a British pension being dual citizens!
 
ioppolo said:
More just pointing out to Owen that his point isn't specific to Carlson.

If you're referring to my reply to you, I don't think anyone outside the US or Canada would've heard of him until post 2016 election
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All good. Just commenting in general really. Some people always seem to think journalists were better back in their day. I’m 41 and have never seen it. Always an agenda with media. They are a business looking to win like most others.
 

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Catfish Alley said:
All good. Just commenting in general really. Some people always seem to think journalists were better back in their day. I’m 41 and have never seen it. Always an agenda with media. They are a business looking to win like most others.
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Yeah media has always been manipulated. Boomers grew up being told to watch the news to "stay informed" so they may have a sense of false security in old media.
 
Jason mp said:
At the start I thought the narrative was that the virus was from a natural source ie it jumped from an animal to a human. Now it appears likely it got out of the Wuhan lab, (accidently IMO) and this was covered up, a huge story if true.
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Nikolai Petrovsky noted from the beginning, after analysing the virus it had to have hit a dish. There was no way it had come directly from an animal.
When asked why about other scientist, he said that many agreed , but fear of restrictions for future research they weren't willing to comment.

Nikolai has scoffed when being interviewed about the bat theory in subsequent interviews, he lays blame directly at the Chinese institute and government and has never deviated from this.

Now if you believe the bat and pangolin bed time story you will believe the death rates and the vaccination is the only solution fairytale.

The ignorance of todays human species have been exposed, and the fools bringing up Trump as a reason to cover their eyes and ears are the purest form of imbeciles. They can't let go of the fact they have been played.

You are correct, you take parts of information from many places, never disregarding any source. As soon as you do, everything cancels out the other and all blends into nothingness, you essentially have lobotomised your ability to understand.
 
Bender20 said:
You are correct, you take parts of information from many places, never disregarding any source. As soon as you do, everything cancels out the other and all blends into nothingness, you essentially have lobotomised your ability to understand.
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Confirmation bias is rife amongst everyone, it is part of the human condition, it is hard to override it when assessing news, we like to spin information to fit our existing internal narrative.

I agree with you that one of the best modern examples of this is the "Orange man bad syndrome" Trump could have cured cancer and the orange man bad believers and CNN would have still found a way to paint it as a bad thing.
 
Jason mp said:
Confirmation bias is rife amongst everyone, it is part of the human condition, it is hard to override it when assessing news, we like to spin information to fit our existing internal narrative.

I agree with you that one of the best modern examples of this is the "Orange man bad syndrome" Trump could have cured cancer and the orange man bad believers and CNN would have still found a way to paint it as a bad thing.
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I think this is when you have to step back and look around you at reality. From day one there has been nothing in my real life to suggest there has been a deadly virus warranting the restrictions etc. we have gone through. I know no-one that has tested positive let alone become sick or died from Covid. And before people say, "Look overseas!", again, doing the real life check, all my contacts, relatives and friends in other countries are not reporting any significant amount of sickness or death other than you would expect at any normal time.
 
Bender20 said:
Nikolai Petrovsky noted from the beginning, after analysing the virus it had to have hit a dish. There was no way it had come directly from an animal.
When asked why about other scientist, he said that many agreed , but fear of restrictions for future research they weren't willing to comment.

Nikolai has scoffed when being interviewed about the bat theory in subsequent interviews, he lays blame directly at the Chinese institute and government and has never deviated from this.

Now if you believe the bat and pangolin bed time story you will believe the death rates and the vaccination is the only solution fairytale.

The ignorance of todays human species have been exposed, and the fools bringing up Trump as a reason to cover their eyes and ears are the purest form of imbeciles. They can't let go of the fact they have been played.

You are correct, you take parts of information from many places, never disregarding any source. As soon as you do, everything cancels out the other and all blends into nothingness, you essentially have lobotomised your ability to understand.
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If you really want to upset some of the communist pro vaxxers maybe just remind them it was Trump who helped fast track all the vaccines.

You’ll get some priceless responses - 🤯
 
Lots of different thoughts on these threads. Some think it doesn’t exist, some think it’s overstated. Some think it’s a political tool and some think it’s a scientific experiment. A few are against all vaccinations and some just question these new ones.

Discussion is always good though. I appreciate the different points of view.I especially appreciate the Aussie perspective because it’s very difficult to gauge things on your media alone.
 
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Nothing to see here! Move along
 
ioppolo said:
My grandparents and grandparents in laws are in their mid to late 70s. Born just after WWII. Born after the war but probably pass away just as the dystopian Owellian future approaches.
Sure they had to work hard as fu**, but outside of that their lives were pretty simplistic and easy. And now they have comfortable retirements. If only they knew how good they've had it.
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They do. Not quite that old yet, but we still had the best of times, plenty of jobs, cheap housing (compared with today), great music and no internet :D
 
ioppolo said:
My grandparents and grandparents in laws are in their mid to late 70s. Born just after WWII. Born after the war but probably pass away just as the dystopian Owellian future approaches.
Sure they had to work hard as fu**, but outside of that their lives were pretty simplistic and easy. And now they have comfortable retirements. If only they knew how good they've had it.
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My parents and their contemporaries. Surprised given when they were at the age I am now anti communist anti totalitarian feelings were strong.
Now (and I've said to some) that maybe they got too comfortable and had such a rub of the green economically it's blinded them to what's happening and just how bad the effect is and will be.
The current generation of bureaucracy leaders I don't know. Too much MDMA and grass probably fried their brains in the 90s
 
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