Conspiracy Theory Coronavirus #5: We're in this together!

About Covid vaccines: Opinion on mandates? Your personal situation?

  • I support vaccine mandates for all jobs

    Votes: 24 26.1%
  • I support vaccine mandates for health & aged care jobs

    Votes: 9 9.8%
  • I don't care either way, it's up to each company

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Vaccine mandates are immoral and/or unjustifiable

    Votes: 46 50.0%
  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I got it to keep my job

    Votes: 13 14.1%
  • My employer has mandated the vaccine - I decided to quit my job

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • My employer has left the decision to get the vaccine optional

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • I'm not sure where my employer stands on this issue

    Votes: 14 15.2%

  • Total voters
    92

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Stop bagging Fauci. He is a lifelong public servant who was at the forefront of the US response to AIDS.
He has served under many Republican presidents and knows more about epidemiology than fake internet accounts.
It's embarrassing to attack people of science.History will lampoon internet warriors who are attacking health officials.
 

Still a very small fraction of people and they are all nationalists or conspiracy theorists.
No one is forced to get a vaccine.Freedom does not mean freedom to spread the virus or mask wearing, freedom means freedom from slavery .
The right wing anti-science mob are hijacking the word freedom.
Get some perspective.
 
Prior to your response, I had already read the majority of that UK ... week 38 report.
And when making my way through the reports' usual junk propaganda, I saw that paragraph with the estimate of cases and deaths saved from vaccines, and thought ??? who would be gullible enough to believe those ridiculous numbers ... Thanks for answering that question for me.

During the period in which vaccinations have been pushed in the UK, some 9 months or so, the UK has had about 7 million covid-19 cases. Over half of those have came about after the UK was at least 50% fully vaxxed (in the past 3 or 4 months).
Already having a general understanding of those stats, I thought, who in their right mind would believe any covid-19 study or reports trying to sell junk science that those numbers would be about 4 times higher without vaccinations?
The UK already has one of the highest infection per capita rates in the world and an extremely high number of people already carrying antibodies (who have not been vaxxed) ... or did you fail to read that paragraph just above which stated natural antibodies in 18.9% of the population?

If you still believe those numbers, try to show me just one place in the world that would support that theory of low vaccinations resulting in 3 or 4 times the number of expected cases.

Once again, real world data simply does not match up to these ridiculous "science based" models that are continually being shown to be wrong, yet still used to support the false narratives of the gullible and corrupt.

Given your clear belief you are well qualified, and had actually dismissed the UK paper I linked.
Then why don’t you educate all of us about the specific failings of the analysis and offer an in-depth critique of its short comings.
Otherwise your commentary above, is completely self serving, and a poor and transparent attempt to malign data, that contradicts the unsophisticated calculations in your earlier post.
 
Given your clear belief you are well qualified, and had actually dismissed the UK paper I linked.
Then why don’t you educate all of us about the specific failings of the analysis and offer an in-depth critique of its short comings.
Otherwise your commentary above, is completely self serving, and a poor and transparent attempt to malign data, that contradicts the unsophisticated calculations in your earlier post.

More strawman arguments ... as expected.
I just gave evidence of specific failings of that report and invited you to give real world examples of where a lack of mass vaccinations have increased cases and deaths ... a challenge you choose to avoid ... for a good reason.
My earlier post simply shows another real world example of how NSW and VIC official health data shows little evidence that mass vaccinations in those states have been effective at reducing deaths (as demonstrated by the CFR numbers). Likewise my post about your strawman reference to ridiculous estimates is not supported by real world data.
If you wish to negate my position on both posts, try to go and find some real world data to support your position.

And a reminder, I generally will not bother wasting everybodies time responding to your strawman arguments in the future.
 

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More strawman arguments ... as expected.
I just gave evidence of specific failings of that report and invited you to give real world examples of where a lack of mass vaccinations have increased cases and deaths ... a challenge you choose to avoid ... for a good reason.
My earlier post simply shows another real world example of how NSW and VIC official health data shows little evidence that mass vaccinations in those states have been effective at reducing deaths (as demonstrated by the CFR numbers). Likewise my post about your strawman reference to ridiculous estimates is not supported by real world data.
If you wish to negate my position on both posts, try to go and find some real world data to support your position.

And a reminder, I generally will not bother wasting everybodies time responding to your strawman arguments in the future.

You need to look up the meaning of Strawman arguments.
You’re argument is completely speculative, and I’m asking you for a more detailed critique of the study, that gives us all some substance, given you understand stats.

Alternatively, link a third party analysis that exposes the deficiencies in the UK study that supports your claims.

It’s a simple request.
 
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Hopefully this is true. No surprise these companies have been caught lying yet again, Nothing but a bunch of criminals all of them.

Jesus christ dude :tearsofjoy:


 
You need to look up the meaning of Strawman arguments.
You’re argument is completely speculative, and I’m asking you for a more detailed critique of the study, that gives us all some substance, given you understands stats.

Alternatively, link a third party analysis that exposes the deficiencies in the UK study that supports your claims.

It’s a simple request.

Cripes, now you are strawmanning about strawmanning. LOL.

I posted stats about real world CFR rates in NSW and VIC and you respond to that with a post to speculative estimates in a UK publication. That is a strawman argument. You did not address my post about real world data, but instead, you simply tried to dismiss it by redirecting the focus towards my credentials and then by pointing at an estimate, FFS.

And then you fail to even realise that you accuse me of being speculative ... when your response argument was a speculative estimate which had no substance or evidence supporting it's claim, again, FFS.

I'm pretty sure you will struggle to see your logical failings once again on display here, but others will understand my position and why I just previously said responding to you is a waste of everybodies time. My failing is not listening to my own advice.
 
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Again, I'm so glad I've opted out of this medical experiment.
It’s interesting. What if you held out and only get the first 2 jabs in 2022. Are you considered fully vaccinated after the second dose. Or have to wait six more months to be “fully vaccinated” with your third?
 
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Again, I'm so glad I've opted out of this medical experiment.

2023

"No IV bag pumping Pfizer into your veins, no vaccine passport"

Get to the door

"Show me your IV bag"
"Here it is sir"
"That looks like saline to me sir, go to the side and take the vaccine cotton swab to test for Pfizer in your saliva"
 
Jesus christ dude :tearsofjoy:


Conspiracy theorists are just so gullible. It's amazing to watch.
 
Stop bagging Fauci. He is a lifelong public servant who was at the forefront of the US response to AIDS.
He has served under many Republican presidents and knows more about epidemiology than fake internet accounts.
It's embarrassing to attack people of science.History will lampoon internet warriors who are attacking health officials.

Fauci has had an amazing career. That doesn't mean he is above criticism for what he is currently doing

He is scrambling to protect his legacy which has forced him to make greater missteps and be inconsistent.

If he was comfortable with what he has done regarding financing gain of function research with China there would be no reason to update the definition that has stood for years.
 
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