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Soap is better for the coronavirus
Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) 2020
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Soap is better for the coronavirus
Right.
I'm off to take that bath in Bundy Rum OP that I've been threatening to have all these years.
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So it stands to reason that high alcohol content drinks should kill the virus inside your body? I'm convinced, just hope it passes muster with the misso
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Well the Coronavirus can just go and find its own soap.
It's not getting any of mine.
And don't get me started on toilet paper.........
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Unfortunately I am not an alcoholic.
Watching nine gold coast news. The first five or so minutes were based on Covid-19 as you would expect, then cuts into a special cross to the sports guy about what this might mean for the NRL. Really? Who gives a flying ****? It's so not the second most important topic to discuss in regards to this.
I went for a drive up to Toowoomba today to watch my grandson play cricket, it was pretty quiet on the road and not many people out and about, we went to a cafe after the game and there was only one other group in there, the owner was telling me it's very quiet and of concern for his business.
It got me thinking that we take our relatively stress free, soft existence for granted, this crisis demonstrates to me that civilised society/infrastructure/economies exist on a knifes edge. The modern industrial world has only been around for nigh on 150 years which is but a hairs breath of time in the grand scheme of things.
Imagine the absolute carnage that would descend upon us if a virus with and infection rate of 80-90% and a 20-50% mortality rate that also affected children at the same rate was to come along, society would quickly spiral out of control and we would have a real life Mad Max survival of the fittest situation on our hands. Hell what if this current pandemic was affecting children like the elderly, panic would be tenfold what it is now.
It got me thinking that we take our relatively stress free, soft existence for granted, this crisis demonstrates to me that civilised society/infrastructure/economies exist on a knifes edge. The modern industrial world has only been around for nigh on 150 years which is but a hairs breath of time in the grand scheme of things.
Imagine the absolute carnage that would descend upon us if a virus with and infection rate of 80-90% and a 20-50% mortality rate that also affected children at the same rate was to come along, society would quickly spiral out of control and we would have a real life Mad Max survival of the fittest situation on our hands. Hell what if this current pandemic was affecting children like the elderly, panic would be tenfold what it is now.
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Humans are not exempt from mass extinction but we can’t turn back the clock now- too many of us.
Best we can do is be grateful and find fun in every day and do what we can these problems come up. We are a remarkably resilient species, I think we have a few centuries left yet.
Good post Jason.
As it is, this current crisis is more likely to affect old farts like you and me.
I've lived at least 75% of my life(and maybe 99% if Covid 19 comes to get me) but whatever happens to me from hereon in, I'm going out relatively happy.
I consider myself extremely fortunate to have lived in a modern Western democracy at a time when the marvels of technology(not to mention some hard work by myself) have provided me a comfortable existence for almost all my life. Not to mention that I almost certainly would have already been dead two or three times over if not for the miracles of 20th and 21st century medicine.
Heaven help the world if war, famine, climate change or viral infection wipe out the younger and fitter of us.
I don't want to think about it.
My son and I were chatting about this today, I was telling him without modern medicine I would not have survived childhood (I had bad asthma as a child) and he along with his children my grandchildren would never have existed. Be thankful for merely being on this journey we call life.
Amazing how many big businesses are on the nose after 1 week of slow trading, also new research shows 22% of people don't have more than $500 savings to their name for an emergency. Well our emergency might be here.All existing day to day and that's about it.
And the bloody banks will be the first to put their hand out for a corporate welfare/socialist bail/hand out. They love capitalism and trumpet market forces until hard times hit them then they turn all socialist.
I don't think it's the big businesses that should particularly concern us.
The big miners, banks, retailers, insurers....etc have sufficient cash and asset reserves to ride out economic downturns and come out the other side. Even if their share prices take a big hit in the interim.
It's the tourism sector, restauranteurs and small business operators who are reliant on overseas visitors who are bleeding now and into the foreseeable future.
Then there are the casual workers in every sector of the economy who are going to be treated as expendable commodities as economic realities bite, if and when restricted movement of the workforce is introduced.
I feel for them.
All of them
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Totally agree, that's why I specified big businesses, have 0 sympathy for them, lots of sympathy for small businesses.
Heard a quote from a senior Boeing executive, a reporter said something like, "can't you operate at 2/3 capacity for a couple of months?" the reply was "If we do that we are bankrupt". Suddenly Apple with hundreds of millions sitting in the bank are looking pretty smart.
NRL are being even more brazen about keeping their game going at all costs, they are talking about forcing the Warriors to stay in Aus, not allowing them back to NZ and basing them out of Darwin or Townsville, the CEO literally said a couple of days ago "the games must go ahead at all costs." Or moving the whole competition to Darwin and playing every game out of there.
To be fair, the only benefit our Banks in Australia got during the GFC was for the Government of the day to guarantee depositors' funds. An absolutely necessary action at a time when panic had set in and it looked like there was going to be a run by the masses to get their money out....and fast.
The Banks were actually in a pretty good state of liquidity at the time.
Without wanting to stir up a political debate, it was thanks to the foresight of one Peter Costello in setting up APRA (Australian Prudential Regularatory Authority) in the years before the GFC that meant our Banks couldn't engage in dodgy practices like subprime mortgages as did their counterparts in the US.
Or at least restricted their exposure to such things.
(From memory the NAB may have had the most exposure to sub prime mortgages through some arrangements with a Bank in the US)
The "bail outs" I think were a phenomena that occurred in the USA and maybe UK and to a lesser extent in Europe.
I don't think any of our Australian banks have ever got an assistance package at the expense of the taxpayer.
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This why western governments are predicting such high rates of contamination.
We don’t have the infrastructure, technology and man power to do what the Chinese did.
We don’t have the infrastructure, technology and man power to do what the Chinese did.
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Latest stats on Covid19
www.worldometers.info
Iran cases and deaths mounting at an alarming rate.
No further additions to the totals for Italy but you would have to assume that's due to updated data not yet being available.
Another 43 cases in Australia but importantly still only a miserly 3 deaths and only 1 (ONE!) of the 219 active cases classified as Serious/Critical.
Hopefully, we are doing something right (so far at least)
Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,239,149 Cases and 2,804,346 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Iran cases and deaths mounting at an alarming rate.
No further additions to the totals for Italy but you would have to assume that's due to updated data not yet being available.
Another 43 cases in Australia but importantly still only a miserly 3 deaths and only 1 (ONE!) of the 219 active cases classified as Serious/Critical.
Hopefully, we are doing something right (so far at least)
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Always find it best to look at about 12pm, once every country has reported for the day before.Latest stats on Covid19
Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,239,149 Cases and 2,804,346 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Iran cases and deaths mounting at an alarming rate.
No further additions to the totals for Italy but you would have to assume that's due to updated data not yet being available.
Another 43 cases in Australia but importantly still only a miserly 3 deaths and only 1 (ONE!) of the 219 active cases classified as Serious/Critical.
Hopefully, we are doing something right (so far at least)
Have to remember, most of those figures are for the previous day.
Every case i'm seeing is from someone coming into the country from overseas. Why are we still allowing this ?
Yea that's right.
The figures seem to update in a staggered fashion.
I'm still encouraged by the fact that that the data recorded for Australia is (so far) is showing a relatively low infection rate per 1 Million of population (9.7) and a very low death rate
EDIT: I do acknowledge that it's early days with the Covid 19 experience in this country - but lets's hope that with the measures introduced we can keep this thing under control.
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Oi Oi OiLatest stats on Covid19
Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,239,149 Cases and 2,804,346 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Iran cases and deaths mounting at an alarming rate.
No further additions to the totals for Italy but you would have to assume that's due to updated data not yet being available.
Another 43 cases in Australia but importantly still only a miserly 3 deaths and only 1 (ONE!) of the 219 active cases classified as Serious/Critical.
Hopefully, we are doing something right (so far at least)
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"The experience of Wuhan and northern Italy is as bad as or worse than 1918. The case fatality ratios in these locations now are twice what the United States experienced in 1918. Other places have been able to avoid such a dire situation by aggressive public health and community mitigation interventions. For hospitals, while we can hope for the best, we cannot exclude the possibility of a Wuhan-like outbreak in your city. Hospitals should be all-out preparing now for their worst-case scenario."
www.centerforhealthsecurity.org
Just so we're clear on the potential stakes here. Take anything members of the federal government say or do with a massive grain of salt and listen to experts re: the necessity of social isolation if you're able. It's up to us to do what we can despite the (criminal?) negligence of scomo and co.
Get Ready for a 1918-like Scenario | Clinicians' Biosecurity News
While we can hope for the best, we cannot exclude the possibility of a Wuhan-like outbreak in your city. Hospitals should be all-out preparing for their worst-case scenario.
Just so we're clear on the potential stakes here. Take anything members of the federal government say or do with a massive grain of salt and listen to experts re: the necessity of social isolation if you're able. It's up to us to do what we can despite the (criminal?) negligence of scomo and co.
There's local transmission here now. Closing the borders won't solve anything, and could you imagine us being prepared to ban travel from the US? Because that's where the highest number of cases have come from.
Crises and bailouts are all part of the fun with capitalism. We've just kinda forgotten that in Australia over the last few decades.
