Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

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[beta_condition]

Nothing to do with attitude difference. It's an obvious one if you know anything about it and the consequence was predictable.

No doubt there have been bullshit coming out of China. The US numbers aren't bankable and neither are Australia's.

Re the last 2 weeks in China, it's close to business as usual, no overwhelmed hospitals. You believe what you want. I believe ears on the ground.

Australia and US numbers aren't lies any error in the reporting is acceptable variance in identifying the cause of death, China is flat out lying and covering up their massive incompetence.

China no doubt got a hold of the spread, one time an ultra authoritarian government is helpful but you can't compare any countries containment to China with their bullshit numbers, only once a couple months have passed will we have any actual idea how well countries performed.

 

[theyellowsash]

GF will either be at the MCG or Marvel with Optus Stadium a sneaky chance... or no season/GF at all.

lm all for an Optus Stadium GF in December

AFL would probably lean towards keeping it in Melbourne (even though OS would let a few thousand more fans in than Marvel)... as it would be considered more neutral than risk Eagles or Freo getting in the GF and we get the same shit fight how home ground is too much of an advantage, more so than Richmond playing the GF at the MCG... unless it's a derby gf

Still, would be great for the national comp as a one off and trial a night GF for the eastern states

Gf won't be played in hot December weather, and Optus in summer is only Infront of the Gabba in summer in order of where it would be played.

If you're choosing a ground outside Victoria it's either Adelaide for stadium quality, or Sydney for stadium size. Perth in summer doesn't get a look in.

 

[theyellowsash]

Australia and US numbers aren't lies any error in the reporting is acceptable variance in identifying the cause of death, China is flat out lying and covering up their massive incompetence.

China no doubt got a hold of the spread, one time an ultra authoritarian government is helpful but you can't compare any countries containment to China with their bullshit numbers, only once a couple months have passed will we have any actual idea how well countries performed.

I look at South Korea's numbers for a trustworthy guide. Interestingly enough they're not that far off China's, so while China might not be telling the whole truth they might not be hiding much.

 

[Professor Knowall]

I look at South Korea's numbers for a trustworthy guide. Interestingly enough they're not that far off China's, so while China might not be telling the whole truth they might not be hiding much.

Except that China has 28 times South Korea's population .....

 

[Aussie in exile]

Except that China has 28 times South Koreas's population .....

Having worked in China and knowing what pork pies they tell i would take with a pinch of salt their covid-19 figures

 

[Dirty_banchez]

Australia is dominating the Coronavirus showing the world how it is done. The old proverb that hard soil breeds hard men is ringing true right now with the 2020's being known in history as the rise of the Australian Empire.

 

[Cuzz09]

Just taking it one week at a time.....

"WHAT A BIG WEEK IT HAS BEEN IN FOO.... CORONA VIRUS!!"

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[Cuzz09]

Grand Final in Tassie.

Give en something

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[Howard Littlejohn]

Australia and US numbers aren't lies any error in the reporting is acceptable variance in identifying the cause of death, China is flat out lying and covering up their massive incompetence.

China no doubt got a hold of the spread, one time an ultra authoritarian government is helpful but you can't compare any countries containment to China with their bullshit numbers, only once a couple months have passed will we have any actual idea how well countries performed.

Australia and US numbers are not lies, but due to who gets tested not reliable either. We very liekly have wider community spread not being tested for, though at this stage probably not very high or it would show up through the hospitalised cases.

The Chinese ones for the last week or two would seem to be pure works of fiction. And before that probably skewed by counting deaths where this virus was a link in the cuase as death by the other means. (e.g. if someone had CV and flu, count it as a flu death)

 

[StillAtLarge]

lol at people thinking fans are gonna be allowed into stadia in 2020 if the footy season resumes

 

[Aussie in exile]

lol at people thinking fans are gonna be allowed into stadia in 2020 if the footy season resumes

I think there might be some disappointed people.

 

[theyellowsash]

Except that China has 28 times South Korea's population .....

Well you don't look at raw numbers, you look at percentages and infection/death rates, which is how you can get a comparison. I'd have thought a professor would know that. Maybe you're not really a professor after all

 

[theyellowsash]

Australia and US numbers are not lies, but due to who gets tested not reliable either. We very liekly have wider community spread not being tested for, though at this stage probably not very high or it would show up through the hospitalised cases.

The Chinese ones for the last week or two would seem to be pure works of fiction. And before that probably skewed by counting deaths where this virus was a link in the cuase as death by the other means. (e.g. if someone had CV and flu, count it as a flu death)

That's why the whole discussion and panic over the death rate a month ago was garbage. The authorities know their death rate is rubbish because they know they've probably tested a tenth of the people who actually have it. That doesn't sell papers though

 

[jatz14]

I wonder what effect all this will have on other infectious diseases?

Colds, mono, hep A, flu etc.

Social isolation will limit the spread of all of them.

We may come out of this with a lower infectious disease burden over all.

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[Monkey King]

China no doubt got a hold of the spread, one time an ultra authoritarian government is helpful but you can't compare any countries containment to China with their bullshit numbers, only once a couple months have passed will we have any actual idea how well countries performed.

Being an authoritarian government sure helped, but you'd be wrong if that's all you put it down to.

As I said, people will believe/disbelieve what they want. I wouldn't trust the Wuhan numbers one bit, especially the death toll. In terms of newly confirmed cases, I'd be more inclined to believe the numbers, because they align to both government action and the firsthand info I'm getting. I can't see the CCP wishing to rush headlong back into an epidemic. They desperately need to control the narrative within their borders.

I'm not saying US or Oz governments have lied about their numbers, but they haven't always given an actual indication of what's going on, that's for sure. Don't think our governments haven't lied to us though. Claims of being prepared etc. The propaganda about masks being useless is also lies. It's just government not trusting its citizens to refrain from hoarding. If PPE supplies are secured for health care workers and the spread doesn't abate, you'll see a 360 on this bullshit we've been fed.

 

[Sterge]

I wonder what effect all this will have on other infectious diseases?

Colds, mono, hep A, flu etc.

Social isolation will limit the spread of all of them.

We may come out of this with a lower infectious disease burden over all.

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Lol i did see a tweet today, side effect of social distancing is we may eliminate chlamydia

 

[Max zero]

People say 'well inner Sydney and Melbourne is like Europe' but forget that they are generally nowhere near places like London and much of the old European cities. It shouldn't be a surprise New York and London (and Tokyo coming soon) are hotbeds for transmission.

100k cases in NY alone. If they were a country they would rank 7th in the world.

Governor still refuses to quarantine or close borders.

 

[luthor]

Too old
Too slow

That's what they've been saying about R Federer for years

 

[Professor Knowall]

I look at South Korea's numbers for a trustworthy guide. Interestingly enough they're not that far off China's ...

Except that China has 28 times South Korea's population .....

Well you don't look at raw numbers, you look at percentages and infection/death rates, which is how you can get a comparison. I'd have thought a professor would know that. Maybe you're not really a professor after all

Just have another look at your post I replied to. Did it state that it referred to 'percentages' or 'rates'?? No - it did not, no mention at all - it only referred to 'numbers' which could be seen as referring to 'raw numbers' as any other, whereas in contrast, my post did, in fact, refer to a percentage comparison between population numbers and made no reference at all to 'raw numbers'.

How dare you question the credentials of the Professor (please insert the Greta meme here).

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Australia and US numbers are not lies, but due to who gets tested not reliable either. We very liekly have wider community spread not being tested for, though at this stage probably not very high or it would show up through the hospitalised cases.

The Chinese ones for the last week or two would seem to be pure works of fiction. And before that probably skewed by counting deaths where this virus was a link in the cuase as death by the other means. (e.g. if someone had CV and flu, count it as a flu death)

We are looking for what we think are the most likely people to test, and only getting a low proportion found positive.

 

[luthor]

We are looking for what we think are the most likely people to test, and only getting a low proportion found positive.

All that half the Negatives had was Manflu

 

[luthor]

I wonder what effect all this will have on other infectious diseases?

Colds, mono, hep A, flu etc.

Social isolation will limit the spread of all of them.

We may come out of this with a lower infectious disease burden over all.

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I can see it now.

AFL to bring in a Lockdown Round in perpetuity

 

[Pessimistic]

Australia is dominating the Coronavirus showing the world how it is done. The old proverb that hard soil breeds hard men is ringing true right now with the 2020's being known in history as the rise of the Australian Empire.

‘The lucky country’

 

[kaiserchief13]

Except that China has 28 times South Korea's population .....

But Wuhan was locked down and Wuhan is how big?

 

[Rob R]

Gf won't be played in hot December weather, and Optus in summer is only Infront of the Gabba in summer in order of where it would be played.

If you're choosing a ground outside Victoria it's either Adelaide for stadium quality, or Sydney for stadium size. Perth in summer doesn't get a look in.

Given we wont havr crowds allowed, we could break with tradition and play it at the home ground of the highest qualifier. The Cricket wont be happening given many cricket countries will take alot longer to recover from Xi's flu so the stadiums will.br available.

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