Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

[Chief]

Australian Coronavirus Stats

Latest COVID-19 stats from Australia.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Woodie99]

Interestingly , nearly half the Victorian cases have recovered. If NSW is tracking similarly, it means recoveries are keeping up with new infections, and our hospitals should not overload, though i'm sure the severe cases also have longer recovery.

Where are you getting this info from?

 

[Woodie99]

Are you suggesting the virus is planning on striking back?

The virus is still out there, we haven't done anything to eliminate it. If we return to normal activities the cases will increase again.

 

[boncer34]

Where are you getting this info from?

12,095,105 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

Victoria 476 recovered

 

[Max zero]

12,095,105 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

Victoria 476 recovered

I think other states are a bit slow on uploading recovery rates.

No reason to think Victorians are recovering at a different rate.

 

[boncer34]

I think other states are a bit slow on uploaded recovery rates.

NSW and QLD have stated previously they won't report them.

 

[Max zero]

NSW and QLD have stated previously they won't report them.

Honestly don't see why not.

 

[luthor]

Here is an excellent site that has detailed information on Cases, Deaths, Transmissions and even Hospitalizations for Australia and the individual States.

12,095,105 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

If you click on an individual State it even details ICU cases versus ICU beds available

For example, for Victoria

2660 Coronavirus Cases and 645 Active in Victoria - COVID LIVE

Live tracking of Coronavirus Cases, Active Cases, Tests, Recoveries, Deaths, ICU and Hospitalisations in Victoria

www.covidlive.com.au

 

[boncer34]

Here is an excellent site that has detailed information on Cases, Deaths, Transmissions and even Hospitalizations for Australia and the individual States.

12,095,105 Coronavirus cases in Australia - COVID Live

Live tracking of coronavirus cases, active, tests, deaths, ICU, hospitalisations and vaccinations in Australia

www.covidlive.com.au

If you click on an individual State it even details ICU cases versus ICU beds available

For example, for Victoria

2660 Coronavirus Cases and 645 Active in Victoria - COVID LIVE

Live tracking of Coronavirus Cases, Active Cases, Tests, Recoveries, Deaths, ICU and Hospitalisations in Victoria

www.covidlive.com.au

Literally 4 posts up.

 

[luthor]

Literally 4 posts up.

Yes. Sorry.

I started my post, got sidetracked for about 20 minutes and by the time I finished it, I had become obsolete

 

[luthor]

Honestly don't see why not.

NSW have come out with some wishy washy Statement about it being "too difficult" to judge when a patient has recovered.


*Recoveries are likely to be much higher as this figure is only reported in four jurisdictions.

Across Australia, at least 636 people have recovered. This figure underestimates the true number of recoveries because it is reported in only four jurisdictions — Victoria, WA, the ACT and Tasmania — and only Victoria reports this figure daily.

A NSW Health media spokeswoman told ABC News it does not report this figure because it is too difficult to define when a person is considered to have recovered from the disease.

However, assuming recoveries are not limited to only four jurisdictions, the national number of confirmed current cases is less than 4,666.

the part in italics above comes from here

Charting the COVID-19 spread: Australia passes 10,000 coronavirus deaths

Australia has officially recorded more than 10,000 COVID deaths in total, with 4,000 of those recorded in Victoria. Here's what the latest data shows.

www.abc.net.au

Not sure why Queensland is all silent and glum in this regard.

I find it incredible we don't have a National Standard. The so called "bell curve" relies on Active cases at any point of time.

How can anyone construct a meaningful bell curve of Active cases if the total for the number of Recoveries is incomplete?

 

[My Tilly]

You didn't even watch the video. You don't know what you're talking about. You're just looking more and more foolish; that's all I need to know about you.

You have a severe superiority complex. The type of 'know-all' phenomena we see in a lot of younger people 20-30 who are self taught doctors, lawyers, engineers and scientists.

 

[boncer34]

You have a severe superiority complex. The type of 'know-all' phenomena we see in a lot of younger people 20-30 who are self taught doctors, lawyers, engineers and scientists.

Duh

 

[Turnover]

I’m certain if someone had a superiority complex, they wouldn’t admit it.

 

[Pessimistic]

Not really racist to 'wonder' if cultural habits have a bearing. The main problem for the italians in italy was they were caught quite unawares and the rest of us have been able to save lives based on them owning their 'errors'.
Large regular family gatherings is not unique to italians but its anecdotally a factor. They dont live together any more than we do

Coronavirus: Four members of New Jersey family die

The death of Grace Fusco and three of her adult children is an "unbearable tragedy", relatives say.

www.bbc.com

‘Healthy’ Italian family of four all killed by coronavirus in same week

A “healthy and strong” family of four all died of COVID-19 in the same Italian hospital within the same week, according to reports. Blacksmith Alfredo Bertucci, 86, was killed by the di…

nypost.com

 

[Max zero]

NSW have come out with some wishy washy Statement about it being "too difficult" to judge when a patient has recovered.


*Recoveries are likely to be much higher as this figure is only reported in four jurisdictions.

Across Australia, at least 636 people have recovered. This figure underestimates the true number of recoveries because it is reported in only four jurisdictions — Victoria, WA, the ACT and Tasmania — and only Victoria reports this figure daily.

A NSW Health media spokeswoman told ABC News it does not report this figure because it is too difficult to define when a person is considered to have recovered from the disease.

However, assuming recoveries are not limited to only four jurisdictions, the national number of confirmed current cases is less than 4,666.

the part in italics above comes from here

Charting the COVID-19 spread: Australia passes 10,000 coronavirus deaths

Australia has officially recorded more than 10,000 COVID deaths in total, with 4,000 of those recorded in Victoria. Here's what the latest data shows.

www.abc.net.au

Not sure why Queensland is all silent and glum in this regard.

I find it incredible we don't have a National Standard. The so called "bell curve" relies on Active cases at any point of time.

How can anyone construct a meaningful bell curve of Active cases if the total for the number of Recoveries is incomplete?

Indeed how can we track progress if we are not tracking accurately?

 

[compact72]

Honestly, these people at Manly beach

Restrictions will probably be in place for longer due to the stupidity of some people

 

[Pessimistic]

In fact in the Italian North the number of people living in a house is significantly less than here.

Probably not in new york either. its the regular large family gatherings which are pretty much mandatory which may be a cultural factor.

Its just culture - like whats emerging here in aus is we have better off bogans in better off suburbs who think they know best

 

[Gold Rocks]

Click on this link to check coronavirus tally each day in every country deaths etc scroll right down to the bottom of it. America is going off the chart now with the virus but don't believe china as it hasn't changed much over the past 2 weeks which i find hard to believe. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Forward Press]

In fact in the Italian North the number of people living in a house is significantly less than here.

The population density in Milan is 7500 people per sq km.

The population density in Sydney is 1200 people per sq km.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

That one ******* boat screwed half the country. I think 20% of South Australian cases are directly related to the Ruby Princess and that figure will probably rise here and nationwide. And I'm yet to hear of any heads rolling and only hear blame games, Gladys, someone at NSW health or Border control should be gone after all this.

Stuff ups happen. Pretty bad in the current circumstance when they do, but its inevitable that some do.

There's no doubt ABF have questions to answer, even if they got bad advice from NSW health and even if the crew lied about the situation; it came after it was announced everyone coming off a ship would need to undergo self-isolation. ABF are responsible for immigration and customs, and enforcing any federal rule on those fronts regardless of advice from a state authority. ABF possibly cannot detail people in that case; using other powers they can; but they are ultimately responsible for every entry into the country.

If NSW Health did give that advice, they also have questions to answer as to how that came about.

Other than the problems caused by the breah, the next biggest is that neither agency seem to accept any fault. Maybe internally they are, but judging by their external responses they aren't even looking at any systemic failures that need fixing. They're just looking at blame shifting, like PR leads they way over substance.

Stuff ups can be understood; some less than others. Not even attempting to learn from them, particularly in current circumstances where quick learning is vital, cannot be forigven.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

you're fu**in kidding aren't you?

maybe if you're a 40-year member of the Geelong cheer squad but fu** me.

actual mental health – ya know, proper depression and bipolar and personality disorders – are not so flimsy they're triggered by the footy not being on. people went through wars, great depressions, harsher worldwide flus and did it in squalid conditions in the freezing cold with rationed food and no entertainment.

The smallest thing can set off someone who was possibly headed down that path anyway. It could be the tipping point for some, but very likely something else would have been quite soon anyway.
A lack of sport to watch is unlikely to be the cause of "situational depression"; but someone who lives with a background clinical depression their whole lives can be driven much deeper over the most trivial thing. Logic isn't always at work; much less "other people have it worse". Objectively, yes, but objectivity goes out the window very quickly.

 

[Roby]

The population density in Milan is 7500 people per sq km.

The population density in Sydney is 1200 people per sq km.

Is that Milan Centre (CBD), Milan Metro or Milan Greater?

 

[ziad]

The population density in Milan is 7500 people per sq km.

The population density in Sydney is 1200 people per sq km.

mmm
Greater Sydney is very large ( 12,368 km²) and partly semi rural still. Inner eastern suburbs like Randwick have densities up about 4800 / sq km. They are all big on back packers, travellers and residents that travel OS. A bit complex to compare.

 

[TheSunGod]

Pretty sure that whatever you are doing it isn't as effective as simply washing your bottom.
If someone took a dump on your kitchen table, would you think you could clean it using only paper.

Wet wipes my friend. Wet wipes.

 

[theyellowsash]

Absolutely they need a plan, but with a flexible start date that will come to light with 3 or 4 weeks notice.

Noone has any idea how long we will all be impacted, and to place a date of June 11 on it at this stage is both bewildering and deluded.

Nominating a hopeful goal is entirely reasonable. It's deluded to think that a company the size of the AFL could make a plan without nominating a hopeful target date. For all you know that might be the soonest possible date that they could be ready to play again, which is why they've nominated it.