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StCicatriz said:
yes but there's also intrastate tourism.

why would we risk infected coming in giving the increasing number of new cases coming out of Victoria and NSW?
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Hard to get cases if you hardly test. We aren’t getting rid of this thing without a vaccine so what changes in a year. There will be no sport apart from playing each other unless you get rid of the silly 14 day isolation rule especially for sports like footy where they have so many checks of players. Don’t expect a test against India either. They will isolate once when they arrive in Australia but they won’t do it twice.
 
StFly said:
Don't give them impetus to engage ideas they want to and have tried previously.
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Let them, they can pay back all the money NSW and Vic have paid to them since federation.
Always said we should let them secede, then we invade, take their resources and make them slaves.
Works for me.
 
Joffaboy said:
Let them, they can pay back all the money NSW and Vic have paid to them since federation.
Always said we should let them secede, then we invade, take their resources and make them slaves.
Works for me.
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we'll do what we are good at. defaulting and booing
 
88 active cases in Victoria.
 
George said:
88 active cases in Victoria.
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I still don't get why NSW has so many active cases. I know they have many more cases than every other state but over last 2 or 3 weeks they probably have had no more cases than us so that should mean they should have similar active figures to us. Its confusing.
 
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Monkeys infected with COVID-19 develop immunity in studies, a positive sign for vaccines

Two studies in monkeys published on Wednesday offer some of the first scientific evidence that surviving COVID-19 may result in immunity from reinfection, a positive sign that vaccines under development may succeed, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.
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Monkeys aren't getting re infected.

plugger66 said:
I still don't get why NSW has so many active cases. I know they have many more cases than every other state but over last 2 or 3 weeks they probably have had no more cases than us so that should mean they should have similar active figures to us. Its confusing.
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Aren't they a bit lax on updating it on that front or have they improved.
 

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Pakenhamsaint said:
www.reuters.com

Monkeys infected with COVID-19 develop immunity in studies, a positive sign for vaccines

Two studies in monkeys published on Wednesday offer some of the first scientific evidence that surviving COVID-19 may result in immunity from reinfection, a positive sign that vaccines under development may succeed, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.
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Monkeys aren't getting re infected.


Aren't they a bit lax on updating it on that front or have they improved.
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Looks lax but surely they shouldn’t be. Some state isn’t telling the whole truth
 
Joffaboy said:
Let them, they can pay back all the money NSW and Vic have paid to them since federation.
Always said we should let them secede, then we invade, take their resources and make them slaves.
Works for me.
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I've got a cousin there, they stay in federation until such a time as he and his fam returns, then they can secede. This is purely selfish and they join that group of yobbos up north who created that oil rig place where he was apparently a prince of in lala land during the 90's.

Then we don't need to invade them, just allow the camels emus and roos to go west and they'll capitulate quick smart sicne they can't go to water due to all the sharks, so they'll be hemmed in and we'll have a nature reserve.
 
there's going to be huge fall out from what's just occurred here.

the federal government has just completely shat the bed again. almost a repeat of the ruby princess incident.

we've had a live export ship come into australian waters. they had disclosed they had sick people on board. border force then granted them access to dock. which is bad enough, but it gets worse.

they did NOT disclose to the port authority here that there were sick people on board. so port authority personel boarded the ship in their usual manner (with PPE) to dock it and process it. these workers then went home.

it was only the next day that the state government found out from local workers through word of mouth that there were sick people on board. now there's 6 people (from memory) that have tested positive. the remaining workers on the ship are expected to also test positive.

it's just utterly insane how ****ing incompetent this federal government is, specifically border force, when it comes to enforcing proper border control.
 
StCicatriz said:
there's going to be huge fall out from what's just occurred here.

the federal government has just completely shat the bed again. almost a repeat of the ruby princess incident.

we've had a live export ship come into australian waters. they had disclosed they had sick people on board. border force then granted them access to dock. which is bad enough, but it gets worse.

they did NOT disclose to the port authority here that there were sick people on board. so port authority personel boarded the ship in their usual manner (with PPE) to dock it and process it. these workers then went home.

it was only the next day that the state government found out from local workers through word of mouth that there were sick people on board. now there's 6 people (from memory) that have tested positive. the remaining workers on the ship are expected to also test positive.

it's just utterly insane how ******* incompetent this federal government is, specifically border force, when it comes to enforcing proper border control.
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What happens to all the other cargo ship crews, that may be asymptomatic carries?
Cargo aircraft and Shipping is as per normal.
Interstate trucking is continuing.
 
SaintsSeptember said:
What happens to all the other cargo ship crews, that may be asymptomatic carries?
Cargo aircraft and Shipping is as per normal.
Interstate trucking is continuing.
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the domestic work force i.e. interstate trucking is a different story given the lack of community spread here. also many of those workers are tested here, for example FIFO are tested as part of company policy in agreeance with the WA state government.

or you have symptoms tell them and you get tested. which is the issue here. they TOLD the government they have sick people on board only for the government to hide that information and not pass it on.

you don't see a problem with that?
 
StCicatriz said:
the domestic work force i.e. interstate trucking is a different story given the lack of community spread here. also many of those workers are tested here, for example FIFO are tested as part of company policy in agreeance with the WA state government.

or you have symptoms tell them and you get tested. which is the issue here. they TOLD the government they have sick people on board only for the government to hide that information and not pass it on.

you don't see a problem with that?
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Have you got an article that says exactly what you said because history suggests you love mayo.
 
plugger66 said:
Have you got an article that says exactly what you said because history suggests you love mayo.
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the premier literally made a statement that says exactly that albeit in more detail:

We had hoped today we would be able to announce another day of zero COVID-19 cases, after the four we recorded yesterday.
Unfortunately, instead I have some serious news to outline. So please bear with me.
There is currently a situation evolving as we speak at Fremantle Port regarding a live export ship – the Al Kuwait - that docked at Fremantle Port last Friday, the 22nd of May.
The Al Kuwait departed United Arab Emirates on the 7th of May, with a total of 48 crew on board.
This morning, seven crew members were tested for COVID-19.
Six have tested positive – all males – and are now being moved off the ship to a Perth hotel for quarantine.
This is a fast evolving situation today, involving WA Health, WA Police, Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development and Fremantle Port as well as Border Force and Australian Maritime Safety Authority.
For the time being, the remaining 42 crew members, who I am advised are currently ‘well’, will remain on board the ship and will be monitored and undergo health assessments as required.
But I suspect it is more than likely that more crew members may also become infected.
This is an extremely concerning situation that we find ourselves in.
But because of the work of all Western Australians, we are in the best possible position to deal with this type of situation.
We flattened the curve of COVID-19, we significantly reduced any community spread of the virus and our hospital system is well prepared.
A WA Health team is on board the ship to further assess the crew and provide advice around health and infection control going forward.
I know many of you will have questions – just like I had when this first came to my attention today.
Straight away I had thoughts of the cruise ship saga, and I thought these kind of situations were behind us.
It goes to show that strong border controls are important as we continue to handle this worldwide health crisis.
Now, I will just explain how we got to this point, based on a briefing I have received.
I’m advised the ship was granted permission to enter the Port of Fremantle by the Federal Government – through the Commonwealth Department of Agriculture on the 20th of May.
At that time, the pre-arrival report that was lodged by the ship reported three crew members with elevated temperatures.
On the 22nd of May, the ship provided an updated report to the Australian Border Force which included one crew member with a high temperature, plus three showing similar symptoms in last the 15 days.
This was when final clearance was provided by the Commonwealth for the ship to berth. At this point, the Fremantle Port Authority was not made aware of the health concerns.
A Fremantle Port worker, wearing PPE – went on board on the 22nd to help steer the ship into a berth at the Port – as per usual process. This person and any relevant close contacts are now in isolation.
It wasn’t until Sunday evening, that the Fremantle Port Authority learnt of some health issues on the ship.
This came by word of mouth from another worker at the port - and the information was then reported through the usual channels.
And now we find ourselves in this situation, which we are working as quickly as possible to get to the bottom of.
Clearly, this is not good.
We want to get to a resolution as soon as possible, so the ship is in a position to leave our port.
The Police Commissioner has reached out the Australian Border Forcer Commissioner and the Federal Department of Agriculture to try and get an understanding as to why the ship was allowed to berth at our port.
It was intended that live sheep be loaded onto the ship in coming days, before departing before the Federal Government’s 1 June mandatory three-month live export pause comes into effect.
The ship was due to export 56,000 sheep to Kuwait and the UAE. All of these sheep are currently being held in a feedlot in Baldivis and will not be able to return to farm due to biosecurity regulations.
This is a live situation that we are working on with the Federal Government and the exporter.
I want to stress that we are well prepared for this situation, and have strong processes in place to manage all crew members.
We will continue to do everything we can to protect Western Australians, and prevent the spread of COVID-19 in our State.
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So:
7th of May departs UAE for WA
20th of May access is granted to the ship
22nd of May as part of the pre-arrival report, they report that people are sick. their entry is not rescinded. the state government is not notified.
22nd of May final clearance is granted. state workers board the ship to dock it. they do their job and go into the community.
24th of May state workers hear through word of mouth that there are sick people on board. it gets communicated up the line.
26th of May we get the statement we have today.

it's the responsibility of the federal government to clear these ships and ensure biosecurity is enforced. it's their responsibility to communicate any issues to the state authorities and to assist in the event of any issues. like we saw with the cruise ships here it's actually a federal responsibility to then quarantine and treat those passengers, not a state responsibility. in any case neither of which happened. they dropped the ball again!

in essence it's a repeat of the ruby princess incident.
 
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