Cricket Discussion - Part 2

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Festerz said:
How lame is this rock and roll 20/20 stuff after the see-saw top tier drama in the 5 day test match we just watched?

There was a stat on ABC Radio during their test match coverage today where they mentioned how many First Class T20 games had been played across the world this year. The number was staggering but as I was in the car I'll be fecked if I can remember it - like almost every t20 game I've ever watched.

I know I'm sounding like the old farts I abhorred as a teenager who complained about One Day Internationals when they first came in. But this over exposure of mediocre rubbish is surely taking away from the very best of the game?
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At the end of the day over 330k showed up to this test. To me that says real cricket fans still know where the best game is.
 
EskimoPAFC said:
But yeah zooming out I still like that T20 exists. Its a gateway in to real cricket, like getting a kid hooked on pot so they will try around coke later.
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You should send that comment to the Cricket Australia marketing department.....
They're always on about getting the kids involved.....
 

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After a day of test cricket at it's best the BBL feels like AFLX lol
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glitch01 said:
You should send that comment to the Cricket Australia marketing department.....
They're always on about getting the kids involved.....
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And for those people who actually run the cricketing programs at local clubs I wonder if the t20 stuff actually helps them get kids engaged?

As a dad taking my kids to the local club in the western suburbs a couple decades back, the coaches' focus was on building the basic skills of cricket and emphasising patience and understanding the wicket, the bowlers and the conditions before playing shots. This applied as much to matches played over two weekends as to limited over games over a single day or weekend.

IMHO the 20/20 bash stuff has no role to play in building this skill base? It's all about those who are already engaged at the top level - about building revenue for the best players and the broadcasters.

Surely the kids and their families engaged by a few hours of t20 enough to enrol at their local club get turned off quickly hearing about the long grind involved in building the skills required to participate at their local club?
 
Festerz said:
And for those people who actually run the cricketing programs at local clubs I wonder if the t20 stuff actually helps them get kids engaged?

As a dad taking my kids to the local club in the western suburbs a couple decades back, the coaches' focus was on building the basic skills of cricket and emphasising patience and understanding the wicket, the bowlers and the conditions before playing shots. This applied as much to matches played over two weekends as to limited over games over a single day or weekend.

IMHO the 20/20 bash stuff has no role to play in building this skill base? It's all about those who are already engaged at the top level - about building revenue for the best players and the broadcasters.

Surely the kids and their families engaged by a few hours of t20 enough to enrol at their local club get turned off quickly hearing about the long grind involved in building the skills required to participate at their local club?
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My comment was more about the drugs comment...

On the serious side - just as an example of how bad T20 is for real cricket - look at the test today. Someone like Pant who is an outstanding white ball player basically cost his side the match.
T20 doesn't let a player learn how to defend or play on pitches that aren't roads
 
glitch01 said:
My comment was more about the drugs comment...

On the serious side - just as an example of how bad T20 is for real cricket - look at the test today. Someone like Pant who is an outstanding white ball player basically cost his side the match.
T20 doesn't let a player learn how to defend or play on pitches that aren't roads
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But I loved the T20 approach Konstas brought and how it unsettled the Indian bowlers. Not a long term solution, but a brave way to see off Bumrah when nothing else was working. But it looks dumb when it doesn't work.

I liked how Bazball spread the field in the Ashes, to take away attacking fielding positions. Only England couldn't shelve the ego to just hit ones and twos.
 
It is a toss up for the most disliked cricketer in my eyes between Harbhajan Singh and Virat Kohli. Both played for India.

Over the years the ICC has allowed both these players to do as they please. In fact India can do as they please including refusing to play under Umpire Steve Bucknor who like Joel Wilson hails from the West indies. If Australia tried that tactic with Wilson we would doubtless be sanctioned by the ICC.

I guess money talks.

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Indian board welcomes Bucknor's Test dumping

The Indian cricket board (BCCI) has welcomed the decision to drop umpire Steve Bucknor from the Test series in Australia.
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1954 said:
Agreed Phil, I wouldn't have thought it was possible to dislike any cricketing team more than the poms, but with a few exceptions like eg Rahul this Indian team is so far up itself I have put them at the top my hate list as well, and as you suggest today's win was very satisfying.

They have more than a few totally unlikeable campaigners with Kohli and Siraj right at the top of the list, but some of their young blokes eg Jaiswal with his ridiculous attempt to get an ump to reverse video evidence of his dismissal are showing signs they could be heading down that same path and I doubt things will improve while India continues to have so much say in the politics of the game, ala Kohli's slap on the wrist for instigating physical contact with Konstas!
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India in cricket are the perfect storm of irresistible money meeting immovable entitlement.
 
I would guess Brisbane won it last year because 7 made a special about them as if anyone outside of the Deep North cares.

Then Perth must have won it the year before because I do remember Cooper Connolly's innings in a final and thinking he could be special.
 
snozulu said:
As predicted India having a whinge about the Jaiswal dismissal. BCCI VP it was not out. Later in the article Sharma admits Jaiswal hit the ball. Indian fans Australia are cheats. Gotta love it.
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Declare war on Bangladesh, that's the home of the video referee.

Even Tim Lane was banging on about optical illusions as if electronic technology is infallible. Ricky Ponting nearly asked him What are you smoking old man?
 
snozulu said:
As predicted India having a whinge about the Jaiswal dismissal. BCCI VP it was not out. Later in the article Sharma admits Jaiswal hit the ball. Indian fans Australia are cheats. Gotta love it.
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I'd love to hear the explanation from Indian fans - on the replay, how did the ball change direction mid flight, if there was no deflection off bat and/or glove?
 
philreich said:
I'd love to hear the explanation from Indian fans - on the replay, how did the ball change direction mid flight, if there was no deflection off bat and/or glove?
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Because Australia cheated! :rage:
 
philreich said:
No mention of the LBW non decision earlier - the one that was even more out than the one on Sunday, when Wilson gave Labuschagne out.
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Well that doesn't fit the narrative. Anyway only 49.5% of the ball was hitting the stumps so the infallible technology must have been wrong.

It's like the invented 15 degrees of elbow flexion is the benchmark between throwing and bowling.
 

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