Dean Jones batting for Australia A, trying to show the selectors he not a spent force at 34...
Virat Kohli's career average has dropped down to 46.85.
Smith is still averaging 55.86. They not in the same league in terms of drop off.
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Dean Jones batting for Australia A, trying to show the selectors he not a spent force at 34...
Smith is still averaging 55.86. They not in the same league in terms of drop off.
The red team were 4/12 from the first 4 overs.
Now need 12 from the last over, but they lost the ex-CEOs nepotism kid at 6/136.
Now need 12 from the last over, but they lost the ex-CEOs nepotism kid at 6/136.
And they get there. Great play from Sutherland and Rogers.
Also thanks to some arse bowling from Kelly.
Also thanks to some arse bowling from Kelly.
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The older Crash Craddock gets the more bizarre his opinions become. Craddock is now suggesting that the selectors will look at elevating Travis Head to open in Sri Lanka. Did Craddock and the selectors learn nothing from the Steve Smith experiment?
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Dont blame Crash, blame the dopy selecrors
They were close to having Head open against India before the first test. The fact McSweeney did well in 2 games against India A and 2 shield games changed that.
Remember the BS in India 24 months ago by selectors? Drop Head because we had too many left handers, play Hanscombe and Renshaw, we loose easily, then get him back in the side. Head bats at 5 for 2nd test but Warner misses 3rd and 4th test and instead of playing opener Renshaw as an opener, they move Head up to open, he does well, and Cam Green is available for the 3rd and 4th test and play him down the order.
The nut job selectors arent convinced about Konstas against spinners so rather than test him out, they say Head did the job for us as opener 2 years ago, lets give him another go.
Crash is just reporting their dopy thinking.
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Why can't McSweeney be given another chance as opener in Sri Lanka? He won't have to face anyone of Bumrah's class.
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True, but just let Konstas open and stop trying to be too clever by half.
If they are planning for the Ashes and longer term for tour of India in early 2027, then getting Konstas to play in Sri Lanka is excellent experience.
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I was thinking of the long term implications of Konstas and also Will Pukovski on Oz's future batting fortunes between the 4th and 5th test.
Since Greg Chappell's debut in 1970, where he became the 2nd Aussie batsmen to average 50+, if they have made 2000 test runs or more, about every 7 or 8 years a batsman debuts for Australia that will finish their career with a 50+ test run average and a similar sort of time frame for someone who will average between 45 and 49.99, post Chappell's debut.
I've drawn the line at 3000 runs as since the 747 jumbo age, the best players now play long enough to get to 3000 test runs, unlike before that, and especially pre WWII.
1970 G Chappell - hit 50 average for 10 consecutive tests in 1975 kept up the average until last test in 1984
1978 Border - hit 50 average in 1981, last test in 1994
1985 S Waugh - hit 50 average in 1997, last test in 2004
1994 Hayden - hit 50 average in 2003, last test in 2009 and he was "blocked" from playing tests by Slater until 2000
1995 Ponting- hit 50 average in 2004, last test in 2012
2005 Hussey - hit 50 average in 2010 last test in 2013
2010 Smith - hit 50 average in 2018 - still going
45.00 - 49.99 average and 3000 test runs since Greg Chappell debuted;
1984 Jones 46.55 hit 45 average for 10 consecutive tests in 1987 kept up the average until last test in 1992
1992 Martyn 46.38 hit 45 average 2001, last test in 2006
1993 Langer 45.27 hit 45 average 2003, last test in 2007
1999 Gilchrist 47.60 hit 50+average in first 10 tests by 2000, only once in first 80 tests was it less than 50, retired in 2008
2001 Katich 45.03 hit 45 average in 2010 last test in 2010
2004 Clarke 49.11 hit 45 average in 2008 last test in 2015
2018 Labuschagne 47.24 hit 45 average in 2021 - still going
So over the last 50 years Australia has been strong when its had 1 batsman averaging 50, 1 over 45 but under 50, and 1 or 2 other blokes also in the lower 40's eg Boon, Taylor, Slater, Mark Waugh, Warner, Khawaja, Head etc as well as having great bowlers.
Pukovski appeared to be a player who could have been added to 1 of the 2 lists above, but his problem with concussion means Oz will lose a potential long term star batsman. Its probably also why Oz needs Konstas or a young player in his low to mid 20's at the moment, to come thru and be added to 1 of the 2 above lists over the next decade.
I think Oz will always turn out star bowlers, especially fast bowlers, but we need to find star young batsmen to keep our place on top of the test pile.
Since Greg Chappell's debut in 1970, where he became the 2nd Aussie batsmen to average 50+, if they have made 2000 test runs or more, about every 7 or 8 years a batsman debuts for Australia that will finish their career with a 50+ test run average and a similar sort of time frame for someone who will average between 45 and 49.99, post Chappell's debut.
I've drawn the line at 3000 runs as since the 747 jumbo age, the best players now play long enough to get to 3000 test runs, unlike before that, and especially pre WWII.
1970 G Chappell - hit 50 average for 10 consecutive tests in 1975 kept up the average until last test in 1984
1978 Border - hit 50 average in 1981, last test in 1994
1985 S Waugh - hit 50 average in 1997, last test in 2004
1994 Hayden - hit 50 average in 2003, last test in 2009 and he was "blocked" from playing tests by Slater until 2000
1995 Ponting- hit 50 average in 2004, last test in 2012
2005 Hussey - hit 50 average in 2010 last test in 2013
2010 Smith - hit 50 average in 2018 - still going
45.00 - 49.99 average and 3000 test runs since Greg Chappell debuted;
1984 Jones 46.55 hit 45 average for 10 consecutive tests in 1987 kept up the average until last test in 1992
1992 Martyn 46.38 hit 45 average 2001, last test in 2006
1993 Langer 45.27 hit 45 average 2003, last test in 2007
1999 Gilchrist 47.60 hit 50+average in first 10 tests by 2000, only once in first 80 tests was it less than 50, retired in 2008
2001 Katich 45.03 hit 45 average in 2010 last test in 2010
2004 Clarke 49.11 hit 45 average in 2008 last test in 2015
2018 Labuschagne 47.24 hit 45 average in 2021 - still going
So over the last 50 years Australia has been strong when its had 1 batsman averaging 50, 1 over 45 but under 50, and 1 or 2 other blokes also in the lower 40's eg Boon, Taylor, Slater, Mark Waugh, Warner, Khawaja, Head etc as well as having great bowlers.
Pukovski appeared to be a player who could have been added to 1 of the 2 lists above, but his problem with concussion means Oz will lose a potential long term star batsman. Its probably also why Oz needs Konstas or a young player in his low to mid 20's at the moment, to come thru and be added to 1 of the 2 above lists over the next decade.
I think Oz will always turn out star bowlers, especially fast bowlers, but we need to find star young batsmen to keep our place on top of the test pile.
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How is Abbott our next cab off the rank in bowling stocks?
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16 players for 2 tests and 1 ODI is a bit much, but the Champions Trophy is in Pakistan a week or so after the ODI game, so I think that is the thinking behind such a big squad, some of the players that will go to Pakistan will train in similar conditions.
I have bolded who I think will go on to Pakistan. I can see Stonis and Zampa and a couple of others being added to form a 15 man squad under Champions Trophy rules.
I can see Labushage going to Pakistan more for his fielding rather than outstanding ODI batting as he proved in the 2023 WC, where he was brilliant in the field all tournament, and his long, slow, steady batting helped Oz when we were struggling early on in the tournament and before Head arrived.
I have put Abbott and Connolly as all rounders more for ODI purposes than test purposes. I really like the selection of Connolly. He is the future. He has played well at shield, level but has been excellent in the BBL. I don't think he will play a test, but his left arm orthodox spinners give him some minor chance to get a game if we do poorly in the first test.
The cricket journos/commentators reckon we will play 1 quick and 3 spinners in both test in Galle. I assume different pitches at the same venue. If that's the case, then Webster will open the bowling with Starc/Boland, and he might do a Funky Miller and bowl both pace and spin in the same test.
Batsmen
Smith, Head, Khawaja, Konstas, Labuschagne, McSweeney
All Rounders
Abott, Connolly, Webster
Keepers
Carey, Inglis
Fast Bowlers
Boland, Starc
Spinners
Kuhnemann, Lyon, Murphy
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Its more because we are going to Champions Trophy in Pakistan a week after we play the 1 ODI game and they want most of the guys going to Pakistan in Sri Lanka training together. He was in the 2023 WC squad that won in India, and I think he played a couple of games.
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I reckon Mitch Marshall will go to Pakistan. He is our current ODI Captain.
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Cummins has said he might go to Sri Lanka, depending on when his baby is born, and even though he isn't in the official squad, it could mean he makes himself available for the Champions Trophy tournament.
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Clive Lloyd has come out against it.
Two-tier Test plan seen as 'terrible', 'greedy' and inevitable
Reports that the ICC is investigating a two-tiered Test league alarms some of the game's stakeholders but others say there is little other choice.
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West Indies great Clive Lloyd said he was "very disturbed" by the idea. "I think it will be terrible for all those countries who worked so hard to get the Test status," Lloyd said.
"Now they'll be playing among themselves in the lower section. How are they going to make it to the top when you play against better teams." He is not a lone dissenting voice.
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His concussion misfortunes are absolutely next level.
The Bowen Lockwood of head trauma.
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A bit more from Clive Lloyd on 2 tiered system.
www.theguardian.com
Lloyd warned that being banished to the lower tier with a corresponding drop in funding could lead to the disintegration of the West Indies team, which is made up of players from 15 nations. “Our islands have got to play together. We’ve been doing that for years,” he added.
While a cricket-mad India has emerged as the game’s financial engine, Lloyd recalled how West Indies contributed to the game’s development, including by lending their players to county cricket in England in the 1970s. “We were the cash cows for a lot of countries over the years … people must recognise that,” he said. “But we are at that situation now where we need the help, and we can’t get it.”
West Indies great Clive Lloyd ‘disturbed’ by two-tier plan for Test cricket
The West Indies great Clive Lloyd is ‘disturbed’ by the idea of a two-tier structure for Test cricket
Lloyd warned that being banished to the lower tier with a corresponding drop in funding could lead to the disintegration of the West Indies team, which is made up of players from 15 nations. “Our islands have got to play together. We’ve been doing that for years,” he added.
While a cricket-mad India has emerged as the game’s financial engine, Lloyd recalled how West Indies contributed to the game’s development, including by lending their players to county cricket in England in the 1970s. “We were the cash cows for a lot of countries over the years … people must recognise that,” he said. “But we are at that situation now where we need the help, and we can’t get it.”
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Lloyd said the Windies is made up of 15 nations. It's 10 sovereign states and 5 territories.
If there are 8 cricket teams in the Olympics the Windies will miss out, but Jamaica or Barbados might represent The Americas, especially in Brisbane as USA probably will not qualify and they have an automatic place in LA as the host nation. If its only 6 teams, then in both LA and Brisbane, the Caribbean will not have a team at the Games.
I always struggle to remember who the 15 are.
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The current team represents:[14]
Sovereign states
Antigua and Barbuda L
Barbados
Dominica W
Grenada W
Guyana
Jamaica
Saint Kitts and Nevis[a]
... Nevis L
... Saint Kitts L
Saint Lucia W
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines W
Trinidad and Tobago
Constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands
Sint Maarten L
Overseas Territories of the United Kingdom
Anguilla L
British Virgin Islands L
Montserrat L
Territory of the United States
U.S. Virgin Islands L
Legends
L = Participant of the Leeward Islands team and member of the Leeward Islands Cricket Association
W = Participant of the Windward Islands team and member of the Windward Islands Cricket Board of Control
[a] Note
Saint Kitts and Nevis are separately represented in the Leeward Islands Cricket Association.
If there are 8 cricket teams in the Olympics the Windies will miss out, but Jamaica or Barbados might represent The Americas, especially in Brisbane as USA probably will not qualify and they have an automatic place in LA as the host nation. If its only 6 teams, then in both LA and Brisbane, the Caribbean will not have a team at the Games.
I always struggle to remember who the 15 are.
West Indies cricket team - Wikipedia
The current team represents:[14]
Sovereign states
Antigua and Barbuda L
Barbados
Dominica W
Grenada W
Guyana
Jamaica
Saint Kitts and Nevis[a]
... Nevis L
... Saint Kitts L
Saint Lucia W
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines W
Trinidad and Tobago
Constituent country of the Kingdom of the Netherlands
Sint Maarten L
Overseas Territories of the United Kingdom
Anguilla L
British Virgin Islands L
Montserrat L
Territory of the United States
U.S. Virgin Islands L
Legends
L = Participant of the Leeward Islands team and member of the Leeward Islands Cricket Association
W = Participant of the Windward Islands team and member of the Windward Islands Cricket Board of Control
[a] Note
Saint Kitts and Nevis are separately represented in the Leeward Islands Cricket Association.
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