Cricket things that annoy you

[PhatBoy]

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I love cricket stats but this is beyond ridiculous. Not one person ever would have ever said gee I wonder what the best averages facing 140+ bowlers are

That is mind blowing

 

[troybe]

Runs, wickets, strike rates, economy rates are all tangible stats that any kid can find out by reading Wisden or similar or cricinfo website. Bowling speeds are an intangible stat because they aren’t recorded the same way as are what batters are facing what bowlers at what speeds.

 

[jannissary]

i’d be interested in seeing what smith averages batting on different days of the week.

these! are! important! statistics!!!

 

[sabso]

Runs, wickets, strike rates, economy rates are all tangible stats that any kid can find out by reading Wisden or similar or cricinfo website. Bowling speeds are an intangible stat because they aren’t recorded the same way as are what batters are facing what bowlers at what speeds.

If they were documented better I’m sure they would be.

 

[Cleavy]

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I love cricket stats but this is beyond ridiculous. Not one person ever would have ever said gee I wonder what the best averages facing 140+ bowlers are

how can we be certain all the speed guns all over the world across all cricketing venues are calibrated the same?

 

[troybe]

how can we be certain all the speed guns all over the world across all cricketing venues are calibrated the same?

New business opportunity Cleav

 

[Cleavy]

New business opportunity Cleav

 

[1989]

Broadcasters zooming in on the ball rolling through the outfield.

You need to be able to see the position of the ball in context (i.e. if there's a fielder(s) chasing it and how far it is from the rope).

Often all you can see on your screen is the ball surrounded by a close up of green grass, and you have no idea if there's a fielder anywhere near it until they finally come into screen to gather the ball or the ball hits the rope.

 

[31550]

Captains who send you out to umpire then crack the sh1ts when you give them out.

 

[big_e]

That's a random stat - what's the cut off for fast versus, fast/medium, medium/fast and medium bowling?

To me that type of stat would make more sense to look at it in terms of those categories

Yeah, these do come up in broadcasts now and again. I like them, tbh. To see someone who averages 75 vs pace, 55 vs legspin but 12 vs off-spin is useful information.

Match-up info I find interesting as well.

 

[Roysforever]

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere on this site, however, I feel DRS is missing a trick for LBWs. For referrals I feel the umpire's respective calls for the ball pitching in line, striking the pad in line and hitting the wickets all need to be articulated to help accurate decision making.

For example, an umpire might determine a ball didn't strike the pad in line but would still hit the stumps. Therefore the on-field decision would be not-out. However if DRS identified that the ball did strike the pad in line but was only clipping the stumps the not-out decision wouldn't be overturned even though umpire believed the ball would definitively hit the stumps.

 

[madjoe]

rewatching the highlights one thing i picked up is the aussies have a coach or 13th man behind the rope to throw the ball back saving the players from running to the rope which saves 20 or 30m each time. while not cheating it's a sneaky tactic that shouldn't be allowed imo

 

[Gough]

rewatching the highlights one thing i picked up is the aussies have a coach or 13th man behind the rope to throw the ball back saving the players from running to the rope which saves 20 or 30m each time. while not cheating it's a sneaky tactic that shouldn't be allowed imo

If it helps with over rates and doesn't effect the game then I'm all for it.

 

[jannissary]

rewatching the highlights one thing i picked up is the aussies have a coach or 13th man behind the rope to throw the ball back saving the players from running to the rope which saves 20 or 30m each time. while not cheating it's a sneaky tactic that shouldn't be allowed imo

all teams do it nowadays

 

[cats_09]

rewatching the highlights one thing i picked up is the aussies have a coach or 13th man behind the rope to throw the ball back saving the players from running to the rope which saves 20 or 30m each time. while not cheating it's a sneaky tactic that shouldn't be allowed imo

That's pretty standard, especially in T20s during the power play overs - those running drinks etc, will often be walking the boundaries to help field balls that reach or go over the rope where a fielder isn't placed

 

[Gethelred]

The constant barrage from coms on what a bowler/batter should be doing.

I don't know Russel Arnold and as far as I know Simon Katich bowled wrist spin, but the homogenity of cricket worldwide is a huge component as to why crowds drop off. A bowler who 'doesn't get through his action as well as Nathan Lyon' yet is good enough to play test cricket is a point of difference worth celebrating, not the constant 'you're doing it wrong!' that's filling the box when Mendis bowls.

Smacks of the same sort of arrogance that the coms had when they insisted that VVS's method couldn't work in Australia, and beyond that it was point blank dangerous.

 

[Gethelred]

Steven Smith's reverse sweep.

If you thought the rest of his batting could be ugly.

 

[damochandler]

Bowlers celebrating dot balls

 

[PhatBoy]

The constant barrage from coms on what a bowler/batter should be doing.

I don't know Russel Arnold and as far as I know Simon Katich bowled wrist spin, but the homogenity of cricket worldwide is a huge component as to why crowds drop off. A bowler who 'doesn't get through his action as well as Nathan Lyon' yet is good enough to play test cricket is a point of difference worth celebrating, not the constant 'you're doing it wrong!' that's filling the box when Mendis bowls.

Smacks of the same sort of arrogance that the coms had when they insisted that VVS's method couldn't work in Australia, and beyond that it was point blank dangerous.

I don’t mind them pointing out what separates the good/mediocre from the very good/great, but like pundits on this forum, it seems forgotten sometimes by commentators that cricket or any sport for that matter is not merely a matter of everybody being capable of ‘being as good as each other.’

 

[Gethelred]

I don’t mind them pointing out what separates the good/mediocre from the very good/great, but like pundits on this forum, it seems forgotten sometimes by commentators that cricket or any sport for that matter is not merely a matter of everybody being capable of ‘being as good as each other.’

I coached a young bloke who bowled off the wrong foot. When I first got him I tried to break him off it and all it did was ruin his action, so instead of going any further I instead just got him practicing at every turn; accuracy and repetition over convention. Fast forward a few years, he won the club bowling average bowling hooping outies at pace, because he was weird as **** and the opposition couldn't work out how to deal with the pace and swing as well as the fact that it was on you a good deal before you thought it would be.

There are definitely optimum ways to do things, but there are also always freaks who despite their suboptimum methods - or, occasionally, because of them - manage to succeed anyway.

There's also a massive strain of 'I know the right way to do things!' more present in cricket coaching than other sports, IMO. These people take unique methods and they take pleasure in stifling the **** out of it until all there is is convention.

Those people can all take a long walk from a short pier.

 

[cats_09]

Steven Smith's reverse sweep.

If you thought the rest of his batting could be ugly.

I didn't see this one, but I did watch the one just before tea - that was shocking

 

[Gethelred]

I didn't see this one, but I did watch the one just before tea - that was shocking

That was the one I was referring to. God, but it's an ugly, ugly shot in Steven Smith's kit.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I coached a young bloke who bowled off the wrong foot. When I first got him I tried to break him off it and all it did was ruin his action, so instead of going any further I instead just got him practicing at every turn; accuracy and repetition over convention. Fast forward a few years, he won the club bowling average bowling hooping outies at pace, because he was weird as **** and the opposition couldn't work out how to deal with the pace and swing as well as the fact that it was on you a good deal before you thought it would be.

There are definitely optimum ways to do things, but there are also always freaks who despite their suboptimum methods - or, occasionally, because of them - manage to succeed anyway.

There's also a massive strain of 'I know the right way to do things!' more present in cricket coaching than other sports, IMO. These people take unique methods and they take pleasure in stifling the **** out of it until all there is is convention.

Those people can all take a long walk from a short pier.

I was watching the South African T20 recently, I don't remember which team he plays for, but there's a guy over there who does the double step off his back foot (commonly associated with uncos in high school) and bowled off the wrong foot.

 

[PhatBoy]

I coached a young bloke who bowled off the wrong foot. When I first got him I tried to break him off it and all it did was ruin his action, so instead of going any further I instead just got him practicing at every turn; accuracy and repetition over convention. Fast forward a few years, he won the club bowling average bowling hooping outies at pace, because he was weird as **** and the opposition couldn't work out how to deal with the pace and swing as well as the fact that it was on you a good deal before you thought it would be.

There are definitely optimum ways to do things, but there are also always freaks who despite their suboptimum methods - or, occasionally, because of them - manage to succeed anyway.

There's also a massive strain of 'I know the right way to do things!' more present in cricket coaching than other sports, IMO. These people take unique methods and they take pleasure in stifling the **** out of it until all there is is convention.

Those people can all take a long walk from a short pier.

Yeah I agree completely, I’m in the middle of trying to help my young bloke - he’s 15 - get to the point where he can maybe play some low level senior cricket with me next year if my knees will allow me so we go to the nets every few weeks. He’s actually got a pretty solid technique but a couple of things let him down and initially it was hard not to get hung up on them but basically I’ve just come back to saying to him ‘mate if it’s on the stumps, your job is to just do whatever the hell you have to in order to stop it. That’s it. Yes if you see that it’s pretty full, get forward, if you see that it’s a bit shorter, use your crease, but basically you just visualise where those stumps are and block the thing.’

Other than that my only other real advice as been to find a front foot boundary shot, a back foot boundary shot, and a get off strike shot for each.

 

[Gethelred]

Yeah I agree completely, I’m in the middle of trying to help my young bloke - he’s 15 - get to the point where he can maybe play some low level senior cricket with me next year if my knees will allow me so we go to the nets every few weeks. He’s actually got a pretty solid technique but a couple of things let him down and initially it was hard not to get hung up on them but basically I’ve just come back to saying to him ‘mate if it’s on the stumps, your job is to just do whatever the hell you have to in order to stop it. That’s it. Yes if you see that it’s pretty full, get forward, if you see that it’s a bit shorter, use your crease, but basically you just visualise where those stumps are and block the thing.’

Other than that my only other real advice as been to find a front foot boundary shot, a back foot boundary shot, and a get off strike shot for each.

Six cones; mid off, cover/point, backward point, fine leg/45, midwicket, mid on.

Tell him to hit each with scoring velocity from 8 balls. 1 or 4 or 6 doesn't matter if you're off strike. Doesn't matter if he goes forward or back to do it; can't teach a tall to bat like a small or vice versa. Just tell him to hit everywhere, and let him learn himself.