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If we play both Wade and Warner this series, I have made the call that I will not watch the test, if it means I miss every moment of the Ashes then so be it
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Your stats actually help prove my point.It's really not. It's a fairly basic requirement.
Here's a list of Australian #6 batsmen, by average - minimum qualification 20 innings at #6:
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...=innings;team=2;template=results;type=batting
This list has only 14 players, of which 7 averaged 40+. Every one of those players had test careers which lasted 8+ years. None of the batsmen who averaged less than 40 lasted more than 6 years, most were 5 or less.
Reducing the minimum qualification from 20 innings to 10 adds a further 27 players:
https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/e...=innings;team=2;template=results;type=batting
Of these, only 6 average 40+, with 21 averaging less than 40.
The conclusion here is that players are given time to establish themselves, and those who can't average 40+ are moved on (or shuffled to another position in the batting order - e.g. Katich), while those who can are kept around for much longer.
** Note that these averages (and career lengths) are for innings batted at #6. They do not include innings batted in other positions.
Which is why he should be averaging more in FC cricket.He also faces sh*t opposition in FC cricket at times
His supporters hope he will. There's no evidence to support this theory so far.He will average a lot more than 30 given a consistent run in the side.
Good ones average 40+. Those who don't, don't stay in the position/team very long - they join the conga line of players who weren't quite good enough.Your stats actually help prove my point.
Those players you mentioned ended up becoming legends of our country. Their averages show how good they were and why they were moved up the order into prime batting positions.
If we have a number 6, who stays at number 6, averaging 40 he moves into number 8 of what is a very formidable list of cricketers.
History says most sides would be lucky to have someone that good that far down the list except for when we have prodigies joining the side for the first time.
Head averages 40 plus.Good ones average 40+. Those who don't, don't stay in the position/team very long - they join the conga line of players who weren't quite good enough.
Head averages less than 30 when he's not playing a bunch of District standard cricketers (i.e. Sri Lanka).Head averages 40 plus.
You seem to be going around in circles to prove Head won't make it, despite the stats suggesting hes actually doing pretty well for a number six.
Steve Waugh was averaging 30 after his first 26 tests.Head averages less than 30 when he's not playing a bunch of District standard cricketers (i.e. Sri Lanka).
That's true... but I just don't see Head having the mental strength that Waugh demonstrated.Steve Waugh was averaging 30 after his first 26 tests.
There's a million cricketers who took a while to find their feet.
Surely we won’t play “hit me on the body” wadeIf we play both Wade and Warner this series, I have made the call that I will not watch the test, if it means I miss every moment of the Ashes then so be it
Head's ability to bat for long periods to save games suggests that he has plenty of mental strength. Captaining the Redbacks would break a lesser player.That's true... but I just don't see Head having the mental strength that Waugh demonstrated.
For every cricketer who "took a while to find their feet", there are 20 who took a while to go absolutely nowhere.
His inability to turn 50s into 100s suggests mental weakness, and/or a lack of fitness - neither of which is conducive to having a long test career.Head's ability to bat for long periods to save games suggests that he has plenty of mental strength. Captaining the Redbacks would break a lesser player.
wtf he's 35 time fliesThey are going to select a 35 yo Khawaja, ridiculous.
Look, I've said similar in the past, but hasn't he shown in the last 12 months or so that this could be changing?Head is mentally strong but technically weak imho
You never feel like he's really "in" - slightly loose technique and always a chance to get out whether he's in the 20s, 40s, 60s. Never set.
Whereas when someone like Smith is set you feel like he could bat for days
I think he's been a good player for a long time. I think he should be in the test team. Has his limitations but so do all of the alternatives.Look, I've said similar in the past, but hasn't he shown in the last 12 months or so that this could be changing?
I feel like he's converted more 50s to 100s recently, which seems like a concentration thing.I think he's been a good player for a long time. I think he should be in the test team. Has his limitations but so do all of the alternatives.
Not sure he's improving much though? Maybe a little more circumspect outside off stump now.
Well he's only made 2x Test 100s, one of which was the 161 he made against the District Club standard Sri Lankan team, back in February 2019.I feel like he's converted more 50s to 100s recently, which seems like a concentration thing.
Someone averaging 39.8 after 19 test matches isn't "barely test match standard," regardless of playing a couple of tests against a weaker team that everyone gets to playFor purposes of comparison, here are the relative records of Steve Smith and Travis Head. One is a world class batsman, the other is barely Test Match standard.
Someone averaging 39.8 after 19 test matches isn't "barely test match standard," regardless of playing a couple of tests against a weaker team that everyone gets to play
Plenty of players will play more tests with a worse record than Head