Cricket Thread: Indian Summer

[Interloperer]

Maxwell's a decent choice for Sri Lanka. Sri Lankan wickets turn a lot, but are rarely the intentionally garbage minefields that the Indian wickets are.

I'd hope Australia would have done a bit more talent identification since 2023 though.

 

[GreyCrow]

I'd hope Australia would have done a bit more talent identification since 2023 though.

Hamish moonlighting as an Aussie cricket talent identifier

 

[skam85]

Pretty Adelaide Crows of this cricket team not planning for next year's Ashes and just focussing on the now with cooked out of form nice guys in the team.

 

[Cromulant]

Pretty Adelaide Crows of this cricket team not planning for next year's Ashes and just focussing on the now with cooked out of form nice guys in the team.

Its been the Aus Cricket Side way for decades, difference now is that the conveyor belt of talent isnt there like it used to be.

 

[Interloperer]

Pretty Adelaide Crows of this cricket team not planning for next year's Ashes and just focussing on the now with cooked out of form nice guys in the team.

Personally I'd worry about the current series vs India first.

I mean, a moderately organised Australia will almost certainly win a home Ashes series. Or in the extreme worst case, tie the series and retain the ashes.

Cricket Australia will be able to parlay that good will until at least 2027 regardless of all other results. Just make it to 2027 and anything can happen...

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Doesn't seem like CA and the States are all that in-synch with identifying and developing up and coming talent.

I sense a review brewing

 

[Cromulant]

Doesn't seem like CA and the States are all that in-synch with identifying and developing up and coming talent.

I sense a review brewing

SA are pretty good at identifying talent from other states.....

 

[Cap]

Doesn't seem like CA and the States are all that in-synch with identifying and developing up and coming talent.

I sense a review brewing

Like the SACA one which was just ignored?

You do wonder what Will Pucovski would have been doing without his head knocks.

Kostas surely must be close to a game.

On the bowling front I wonder if we'll entertain someone like Fergus O'Neil FC average of 21!

 

[Cromulant]

Like the SACA one which was just ignored?

You do wonder what Will Pucovski would have been doing without his head knocks.

Kostas surely must be close to a game.

On the bowling front I wonder if we'll entertain someone like Fergus O'Neil FC average of 21!

Not quick enough for CA selectors, despite his phenomenal record

 

[Cap]

Not quick enough for CA selectors, despite his phenomenal record

That's what i was thinking to, just seems stupid to have a guy taking wickets and not be at least seeing what he can do at a higher level.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Doesn't seem like CA and the States are all that in-synch with identifying and developing up and coming talent.

I sense a review brewing

Maybe we should have a 21 & under team playing Shield cricket so we can fast track the best young talent?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Maybe we should have a 21 & under team playing Shield cricket so we can fast track the best young talent?

They had that for a little while with the CA team playing in the one day competition

SA now has its U19 team plating in the grade cricket competition. Not sure if this has helped or hindered

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

They had that for a little while with the CA team playing in the one day competition

SA now has its U19 team plating in the grade cricket competition. Not sure if this has helped or hindered

Our issue is Test Cricket though, not shorter form.

So why not fast track our best young talent by having them play Shield?

 

[Interloperer]

I get that the appeal of the Sheffield Shield is that the small number of teams generates a higher standard of cricket. But there's nobody really banging the door down.

I dropped off completely in the previous decade. But didn't they have various underage/development/etc teams in the second XI competition at some point?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Our issue is Test Cricket though, not shorter form.

So why not fast track our best young talent by having them play Shield?

They tried to make the State 2nd XI competition predominantly U25 but this was received pretty poorly

Leaves someone like Ben Doggett for instance nowhere

Not sure I have an answer

One thing that changed was that the 6th batting spot was always used to usher in our most promising young batsman

Steve Waugh in the 80s, Ricky Ponting in the 90s, Michael Clarke then Steve Smith in the 00s. They start at No 6 behind our established stars and then we're soon ready to go having done that apprenticeship.

We went away from that for some reason. Started rewarding the older Shield stalwart who'd been making runs for years.

Lehmann
Voges
Bailey
M Marsh

States should be the same. That No 6 batting spot and 4th bowling spot should be your identified up and comers, doing their apprenticeship and learning from the experienced players.

We have Scott Boland waiting in the wings who's even older than the incumbents. Good bowler obviously but who is going to be leading our attack in 2-3 years time?

It's like the Crows filling up spots 21 and 22 in the half forward / half back / high time on the bench roles with Murphy & Smith. Sure, they can do it. But that's where our next generation should be cutting their teeth. Simpler, less demanding roles to learn the ropes and adjust to the level. Building a foundation for their career. Not a cushy career-extension role for limited or older players.

 

[PoholkMe10]

They tried to make the State 2nd XI competition predominantly U25 but this was received pretty poorly

Leaves someone like Ben Doggett for instance nowhere

Not sure I have an answer

One thing that changed was that the 6th batting spot was always used to usher in our most promising young batsman

Steve Waugh in the 80s, Ricky Ponting in the 90s, Michael Clarke then Steve Smith in the 00s. They start at No 6 behind our established stars and then we're soon ready to go having done that apprenticeship.

We went away from that for some reason. Started rewarding the older Shield stalwart who'd been making runs for years.

Lehmann
Voges
Bailey
M Marsh

States should be the same. That No 6 batting spot and 4th bowling spot should be your identified up and comers, doing their apprenticeship and learning from the experienced players.

We have Scott Boland waiting in the wings who's even older than the incumbents. Good bowler obviously but who is going to be leading our attack in 2-3 years time?

It's like the Crows filling up spots 21 and 22 in the half forward / half back / high time on the bench roles with Murphy & Smith. Sure, they can do it. But that's where our next generation should be cutting their teeth. Simpler, less demanding roles to learn the ropes and adjust to the level. Building a foundation for their career. Not a cushy career-extension role for limited or older players.

I mean I like the sentiment but has Cam Green not been batting 6 the last 3 years?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I mean I like the sentiment but has Cam Green not been batting 6 the last 3 years?

Yes and that's the perfect example of what we should be doing and it's become very rare for us

Now he's out and Mitch Marsh (33yo and always injured) is in that spot

 

[Interloperer]

I've been watching some of the "Global Super League" in my lunch breaks. Which is one of the more bizarre T20 competitions I've seen.

It's perfectly adequate quality I guess. But it's 5 random teams from around the world (including Victoria, who otherwise don't exist as a T20 side). And it's all being played in Guyana, the slowest scoring wicket in the world, so the teams are all struggling to score at a run a ball.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Binga strikes again...

WATCH: Moment Howie ‘impaled’ by Brett Lee in freak ‘one in one million’ incident

WATCH: Moment Howie ‘impaled’ by Brett Lee in freak ‘one in one million’ incident

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Interloperer]

I've been watching some of the "Global Super League" in my lunch breaks. Which is one of the more bizarre T20 competitions I've seen.

It's perfectly adequate quality I guess. But it's 5 random teams from around the world (including Victoria, who otherwise don't exist as a T20 side). And it's all being played in Guyana, the slowest scoring wicket in the world, so the teams are all struggling to score at a run a ball.

That said. Watching Tabraiz Shamsi bowl today demonstrated the exact sort of player Australia is missing. He struggles to make the South African first XI a lot of the time, but is also almost the first in the side when conditions suit.

You can look at someone like Ajaz Patel for New Zealand if you want a red ball example. Who has 85 wickets in 21 tests, and zero on home soil.

Australia prefer to back in the boys that did the job at home. And you end up with embarrassments like the Indian tour

Binga strikes again...

WATCH: Moment Howie ‘impaled’ by Brett Lee in freak ‘one in one million’ incident

WATCH: Moment Howie ‘impaled’ by Brett Lee in freak ‘one in one million’ incident

www.foxsports.com.au

We're going to hear about this all summer, every time his co-commentators accidentally start making salient cricket observations.

 

[Interloperer]

A promotion for Joe Burns

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Still looking dicey

 

[Interloperer]

Still looking dicey

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It's an day/night test. If there's thunderstorms in the morning that'll just mean crazy swing for the first session.

 

[Cromulant]

It's an day/night test. If there's thunderstorms in the morning that'll just mean crazy swing for the first session.

I think most of the rain is meant to be coming late arvo and evening.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Predictably only 1 forced change... Boland for Hazelwood.

Playing Marsh even though he can't bowl.

Playing Marnus even though he is mentally cooked.