Itd be unfair.
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Cripps or Oliver.
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Lets just wait and see how good Cripps really is when he starts actually playing meaningful games.
It will be interesting to see how much time clubs actually put into him when/if Carlton get to a level of competitiveness rather than just being easybeats
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Hmmm it surprises me how mindless people can be. Do you think he has more time put into him when he's the only relevant midfielder, or when there's other people worthy of the opposition paying attention to?
If you stop Cripps our entire midfield went to shit this year. He has so much attention to him and opposition rucks sometimes look to hit it away from him, rather than to their own players.
Cripps was voted top 2 in the AFLCA and top 2 in the AFLMVP - people recognise that his contribution is immense.
Similarly, I believe Oliver would still be a gun if he was playing for a crappy midfield, such is his innate ability to find the ball.
If you haven’t figured that out yet, you’ve not been watching.
Oh wait, you infer opposition haven’t been putting time into Cripps already?
Ok. Definitely haven’t been watching.
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You can let him run around picking up non damaging disposals all day.
It will be interesting to see if he can still be as good when/if he starts to play in important/big games
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It was pretty meaningful when we beat you and prevented you from making finals a couple years back
Will be good to revisit this poll in 2 years or so. At the moment looks like BFooty agree with the AFL coaches and AFL players that Cripps is clearly the better player.
About 3 quarters have chosen Crippa, but I daresay it'd be closer to 90% of neutrals.
About 3 quarters have chosen Crippa, but I daresay it'd be closer to 90% of neutrals.
00Stinger
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It will be.
We know that one can perform in finals. Lets hope the other one gets a chance to show if he can. One would suspect that we could be waiting a fair bit longer than a couple of years to find out though
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Oliver has just turned 21, played 50 odd games and received votes from both coaches in a winning final. What he's doing as an aggressive young inside mid with leg speed is insane. And he's only going to get better.
It's very premature to state with any certainty who'll end up the better player.
No-one is claiming that though.
But for now: If all goes well for Oliver, he could be one of the best players in the comp.
Cripps is already there.
Hannabal
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He already is.
A B&F in a 12 win season and AA in a finals side is testament to that.
Not to mention he's the no.1 ground-ball player in the competition and top 5 in numerous other clearance categories.
He's also no.2 in contested possessions behind only Cripps.
You're delusional if you don't think he's one of the best players in the competition now.
I guess neither of us have defined the parameters of what "one of the best" means.
Where do you currently have them ranked overall? Assuming Dusty is no.1
Hannabal
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I haven't done a ranking, but he's clearly in the best 20 players in the competition and would be one of the first players wanted by 17 other clubs if he was on the market.
If you want to sit down and do a top 20 or 50 by all means. I don't have the time.
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I don't think top 10 is out of the question for both.
Oliver also finished top 7 in the coaches votes for the year.
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Dusty is the only mid I'd have ahead of either of them this year
lol wtf do u mean. which team would oliver not start for? other than martin he shits on anyone at the tiges.
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Comparing these two is like comparing Grundy and Gawn. Statistical anomalies will always separate them to a degree, probably leading to a different consensus every season depending on who is in form, but you'd take either in a heartbeat. If I had to do a top 50, I'd probably have Cripps around 10/11 and Oliver 14/15 based off their work to date. Oliver theoretically has another two years in him, and hasn't been subjected to the early workload of Cripps, but if I was choosing one for tomorrow and I had a weak midfield then I'd want Cripps' size and strength. No idea what the answer is in 12 months.
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Agreed, Oliver starts at the coalface of every single team in the AFL without question. In saying that i voted Cripps.....but this is a great poll and almost toss of the coin stuff. I would just love to imagine how it would be having them both in the same team....imagine the clearance domination!!
Gawn to Cripps, Oliver and Mitchell. Not sure if they'd lose one ever lol
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