Crown Casino, Melbourne - Part 3

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About 5 years back I won two satellite to the same Melb Champs event and was able to transfer one to another tournament. But they usually allow that for 2nd and 3rd entries, not for the 1st.

My guess is you won't be able to, but hit TD Christian up and see what your options are.
 
Just to change tack, a question for the many learned Crown attendees out there.

When would be the best time to play 2/3 NL? (I'm free anytime in the 24hr "clock"). Weekdays better than weekends?

Is the rake still 10% capped @ $8 with the usual $5 per hour time cost or has it risen to a $10 cap in the last few weeks?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Wow this turbo thing seems shite. I'm more of an online player that plays at crown 4-5 times a year, but with 1/2 being so shallow and 2/3 being turbo i doubt i'll be playing there again. 2/5 is a little out of my bankroll.

Just seems like a terribly see through attempt for crown to earn more rake. i'm not interested in playing in a game where i've only got 20 seconds to act on a big decision for $800+ pots.
 
dr_protocol said:
Just to change tack, a question for the many learned Crown attendees out there.

When would be the best time to play 2/3 NL? (I'm free anytime in the 24hr "clock"). Weekdays better than weekends?

Is the rake still 10% capped @ $8 with the usual $5 per hour time cost or has it risen to a $10 cap in the last few weeks?

Thanks in advance.
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Friday and Sat nights are the best obv, the action is usually decent

If you cant play weekends then the best other night is Thursday night

But yes weekends are much better to play than weekdays

You're correct about the rake, but its now 20seconds to act on your hand (turbo)
 
Thanks for that Mr Judd,

Turbo distinctly isn't an issue for me - works in my favour on low stakes tables. The lift to a $10 cap is much more significant. The extra $2, hour in, hour out, day in, day out, adds up.

But despite this, and living 250kms from the nearest casino, Crown is still more attractive than Star, Canberra or Jupiters.

What I have noticed playing midweek during the day at Crown is you are never really quite sure of who your opponents really are. I've noticed a smattering of potential team play, and some who have far greater skill levels than what they project. Daytime can be dangerous.
 
dr_protocol said:
Thanks for that Mr Judd,

Turbo distinctly isn't an issue for me - works in my favour on low stakes tables. The lift to a $10 cap is much more significant. The extra $2, hour in, hour out, day in, day out, adds up.

But despite this, and living 250kms from the nearest casino, Crown is still more attractive than Star, Canberra or Jupiters.

What I have noticed playing midweek during the day at Crown is you are never really quite sure of who your opponents really are. I've noticed a smattering of potential team play, and some who have far greater skill levels than what they project. Daytime can be dangerous.
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You are correct in saying that teamplay is prevalent at 2/3 and to some extent 2/5 during the day.

It's funny at 2/3 a lot of the regs seem to like, and indeed almost to want to play against each other. They aren't great players but are nitty and boring to play against. If you're playing on a 2/3 table with several players over 40 who are on first name basis withe each-other, the dealers and the waitresses, move tables imo.

Teamplay is pretty stupid on their behalf because of the rake/time charge, you can't be softplaying people because they're your 'friends'.
 
Cheers Checkraise: being a 24hr establishment I like the fact you have the scope to rise early (lol), turn up at 3.30 am and tackle the rather obvious player whom it would appear has had a wee dram or two.

I don't have outstanding skill levels and would rather take on a drunk and increase wallet width rather than successfully tackle a star and increase ego width.

Under the radar is always best.
 
dr_protocol said:
Cheers Checkraise: being a 24hr establishment I like the fact you have the scope to rise early (lol), turn up at 3.30 am and tackle the rather obvious player whom it would appear has had a wee dram or two.

I don't have outstanding skill levels and would rather take on a drunk and increase wallet width rather than successfully tackle a star and increase ego width.

Under the radar is always best.
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Somewhat relevant and cool story.

I had an argument one day with an ex-reg (around 20, pretty much a complete weaktight fish with spazz tendencies when stuck) who made note of the fact that I had no friends within the casino and that I wasnt regularly invited back to home games etc... and that no-one went out of their way to let me know their was a seat available on their table's etc...

Think about it for a few seconds...

(FWIW he rarely plays anymore and is someone who at times has borrowed money off me to afford a drink at the casino)
 
Is this 24hrs R+B? Or just 7.30pm until 11.30 pm during this Footy Fever promotion June/July?

One thing I noticed the last time I was there was their "rake clock" ran fast. Rakes were collected at 45mins past the hour, then 43 past the next hour, then 42 past, then 39 past then 38 past. Crib every last cent outa ya one way or the other.

It was a better deal years ago when Bendigo used to run it; shareholders are restless - it will probably get worse than improve.
 

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dr_protocol said:
Is this 24hrs R+B? Or just 7.30pm until 11.30 pm during this Footy Fever promotion June/July?
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No idea. A mate told me they were "trialling it" and players got a raffle ticket to combat the flak they will probably dish out for this BS. Could win $500 or so in some raffle.


dr_protocol said:
One thing I noticed the last time I was there was their "rake clock" ran fast. Rakes were collected at 45mins past the hour, then 43 past the next hour, then 42 past, then 39 past then 38 past. Crib every last cent outa ya one way or the other.
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Time is supposed to be collected half past the hour on every 2/3 and 2/5 table. Before, every table was different. Some collected on the hour, some on the quarter hour, some on the half hour, and the rest quarter to.
 
Cheers: the point with the rake was players were paying for an hour but just getting 55-58 minutes.

Big losses on the game today; season in turmoil - finances in turmoil. Gotta go - bank manager knocking on the door with a couple of his friends:D

No really cost-effective Oz casinos to play in these days. Back to the sharemarket.
 
ash_1050 said:
Was playing this morning and according to the table sign 2/3 is still $5. Wasn't around when time was taken so this may be incorrect.
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It's $6ph whilst they are 'trialing' it.

From what I understand, some or all of this money is put into a pool and there is a raffle at 11:30pm each night (i think you must still be there) and the winner of the raffle is awarded $500. I think you must also be a signature club member to be eligible to win the raffle.

I don't like it.
 
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It's $6ph whilst they are 'trialing' it.

From what I understand, some or all of this money is put into a pool and there is a raffle at 11:30pm each night (i think you must still be there) and the winner of the raffle is awarded $500. I think you must also be a signature club member to be eligible to win the raffle.

I don't like it.
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Sounds ridiculous, if they are going to take extra rake to give back later on as a prize then they should have a bad beat jackpot instead, no doubt you would still need to be a signature club member in order to win :rolleyes:
 
ash_1050 said:
Sounds ridiculous, if they are going to take extra rake to give back later on as a prize then they should have a bad beat jackpot instead
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Yeah this! American and Canadian casinos do it, we should also if they insist on taking extra rake.

Having a 100k+ BBJ would possibly encourage more people to play knowing that by playing 1/2 they could win 100k.
 
Played yesterday and lost two stacks playing $2/5 in fairly standard (for me anyway) circumstances. Also played one orbit of turbo 2/3 and doubled up whilst I waited.

Turbo 2/3 Hand:
Dealt A:spade:K:spade: and limp utg lol. A raise to 15 from utg+1 and 2 calls. My friend is waiting with me so I show him my cards. Use my full allotment of time (intentionally) and panic ship, get called by the initial raiser. Flop an A and it's good. Rack up and move to 2/5 about 2mins later, guy is very dirty because he thinks i'm leaving with his money.

First hand:
My stack is about $500 and I've been playing for less than an hour, Villain stack maybe $1.2k. He's playing pretty aggressively. I pick up AA in EP and make it $35. From the CO or HJ Villain makes it $100ish. I opt to just call with the intention of checkraising all in on almost every flop.

I don't like 4betting in this situation as I think it turns your hand face up and allows him to fold hands such as 99-QQ and AK that will frequently bet when checked to on the flop. Obviously it looks bad when he checks back a and binks a set on the turn though.

Flop comes 6:heart: 6:spade: 3:club: or some trash like that which obviously I like. I check and he bets $175ish. I think about it for prob 30 seconds and then say I'm all in. He insta-calls (lol) with 10 10 and asks how much. Before I can answer the dealer has already ripped the 10:heart: for the 2 outer. River blanks.

Second Hand:
My stack is perhaps $550-600 when I pick up the 7:spade:5:spade: in the small blind.
A very tight but bad older player makes it $30 from EP and I pretty much put him on JJ+ or AQ+. Another player calls, I call and the BB calls.

Flop is 752r. I decide to donk into old guy so we can get it all in there and then without him folding. I make it $75. He makes it $200 and the other guys fold. I go all in. He calls with QQ. Obviously the dealer pairs the board on the river.

This is a good spot to donk right? I know he has a big pair, and is going to bet the flop? If I let him bet and then check-raise it looks way too strong especially on a rainbow board. It also lets him commit himself when he inevitably comes over the top with his overpair.


Pretty annoying day all the same though I think I played well.
 
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