Crown Casino, Melbourne - Part 3

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mdc said:
No? Rack up and play til your BB, standard practice.
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Its a clear rule you cant play with your chips in a rack, some dealers enforce it, others dont care enough. So racking up and then playing on is against the rules. If they changed the rule it wouldnt bother me one bit.

Play up until your BB, tell the dealer your done and rack up

I'm a rules nit, and extremely simple ones like this that some dealers enforce and some dont drive me nuts
 
JuddsABlue said:
Its a clear rule you cant play with your chips in a rack, some dealers enforce it, others dont care enough. So racking up and then playing on is against the rules. If they changed the rule it wouldnt bother me one bit.

Play up until your BB, tell the dealer your done and rack up

I'm a rules nit, and extremely simple ones like this that some dealers enforce and some dont drive me nuts
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What difference does it make? It's more efficient to rack up whilst you're still playing so when your bb comes u don't have to walk off and get a rack, colour up, etc. If u do this beforehand the seat becomes available more quickly after you intend to play your last hand.

This is standard. Rack up and play till your bb. Pick up your chips and GTFO so the seat can be filled ASAP.
 
checkraiseulite said:
What difference does it make? It's more efficient to rack up whilst you're still playing so when your bb comes u don't have to walk off and get a rack, colour up, etc. If u do this beforehand the seat becomes available more quickly after you intend to play your last hand.

This is standard. Rack up and play till your bb. Pick up your chips and GTFO so the seat can be filled ASAP.
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The difference is one of those options is against the rules and one isnt

Every second time it ends in a dispute between the dealer and the player trying to bargain their way into a hand when the dealer said they cant play with racked chips. Players have a misconception of the rule and when one dealer says its fine and another says its not, it ends in an argument and that really slows the game down. Not racking up in your BB, by the time you say your done, the dealer has pushed the button, not even Usain Bolt could get to the table before you're gone
 

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It's pretty widely observed at crown that you can play a few hands (prob 2 orbits max) in the rack before you leave. The dealers should be concentrating on rules that affect the game... I've never (in prob 5 years) seen someone dealt out for playing in the rack.

Obviously the next player isn't going to get there before the other player leaves, but when u factor in walking off to get a rack and then trying to buy up peoples high denomination chips etc, it can get annoying. Best to do this type of crap whilst the game is still running.
 
I am 95% this is what happened yesterday.

JuddsABlue was playing. Other guy racked up but intended to play until BB then noticed they have $x65 and decided to just play with that $65 to have a nice even figure to leave with. JAB had a decent hand but when forced with a $65 call on the flop folded and got pissed off.

* 65 is a random figure i chose
 
JuddsABlue said:
Its a clear rule you cant play with your chips in a rack, some dealers enforce it, others dont care enough. So racking up and then playing on is against the rules. If they changed the rule it wouldnt bother me one bit.

Play up until your BB, tell the dealer your done and rack up

I'm a rules nit, and extremely simple ones like this that some dealers enforce and some dont drive me nuts
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It's a such clear rule that I can not remember a single instance of a player being told off for it, never mind being dealt out. I haven't been in a few months, so maybe they're cracking down on it or something, but that seems absurd to me. Racking (at least partially) then playing til BB is done by almost every reg in the place. It's just much more efficient for all involved.
 
Borgsta said:
I am 95% this is what happened yesterday.

JuddsABlue was playing. Other guy racked up but intended to play until BB then noticed they have $x65 and decided to just play with that $65 to have a nice even figure to leave with. JAB had a decent hand but when forced with a $65 call on the flop folded and got pissed off.

* 65 is a random figure i chose
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Lol no that didnt happen

A player racked up mid orbit then after each hand did the 'ok one more hand' speech which gave me the shits

Racking up after you leave is much more efficient than racking up whist playing and discussing with the dealer each hand whether you're playing or not
 
Perth is run slightly differently in that rather then handing out racks, they prefer the players to colour up from the dealer so that a status quo of around 12 stacks of reds are on the table at once. In Perth there is no central chip bank, and you cant buy chips from the cashiers, so its a real pain and slows down our hourly hand rate when every player that cashes out needs to colour up rather then get a rack. The only exceptions to this is usually late on a Friday or Saturday night where tables have collapsed and everyone has bought over their 5 stacks of chips and the drawers have no room... (drawers have roughly 25 stacks of room IIRC).

Though we dont have an exact same situation, a lot of players like to colour up in their last orbit before leaving to save trading chips with the dealer. Most were clever about it and only traded chips with other players or $500 at a time to save having to call over a pitboss.

One arseh*le in particular used to like colouring up UTG+1, and then playing his UTG hand and then leaving. While it made sense to get the seat open faster, it used to piss me off no end mainly because I just hated the guy. Anyway, two separate occasions he coloured up and limped UTG with a stack of something like $x37 and I would spite raise to 38. He actually did ask the floorstaff whether I was allowed to find out his stack size preflop and make those decisions, but we never got along anyway.

About the crown ruling, I think that racking up shouldnt take more then 3 hands or so, so if you get racks from MP then you should be fine to go provided you have the racks rounded off and that your precise stack size is known in a NL or PL game, with a decent number of working chips (maybe 40bb) is out of the rack for those three hands.
 
red+black said:
I'm thinking you probably have bigger issues to worry about mate :p
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haha yeah guess so

had a session last night and had pretty much 5 of my most hated regs on my table, all for their attitude/table manners etc. One of them is the most arrogant pos I've come accross in the room, talks to the dealers like crap and acts like he runs the joint, always sending off snide remarks at players when they beat him.

Another oldman that holds up the game every single time actions on him, just waits and waits and waits and mucks. Another old lady who needs to be told action is on her everytime its there and must repeat all bet amounts etc. Couple others that give me the yips, which lead to my Rack Up post cause one of them done it and it annoyed the hell out of me

Booked a winning session though so happy about that at least. Playing the APPT main on Friday hoping my rungood continues

I just mentioned in the APPT thread, Crown first offered a 200k grnt on their $550 NLHE tournament over the weekend but somewhere from then and the start, they reneged and just made it a general freezeout. The tournament fell well short of the grnt and a few players kicked up a fuss, had a meeting with Crowns legal people and they are backpaying all the players who cashed the balance of the 200k

Means we'll probably never see a 200k grnt again lol
 
I think the best set up is
- 1st buy-in from the cage
- 1 or 2 chip runners around the room
- no drop box
- dealer has a tray with a lot of chips (eg. Jupiter's (last time I was there anyway))
- rake and time charges go in this tray
- dealers to avoid excessive colouring-up at the table
- cash in at the cage
 
The racking Rule @ casino is normally allowed upto 3 hands,some dealers force it while many don't really care untill other players complain.

The reason for the rule i guess is to avoid confrontation between players and also giving players the wrong sense of player is leaving when infact they are playing..eg a player who would always re-raise (3bet) with anything allowed to stay with chips in rack would confuse players if he is in or not so other players can planned ahead (To bear in mind that he is also playing).

Also its harder to count chips on your rack if not all are the same colours.Imagine someone has 4 full racks with all black,green,red and white chips and some idiot asks for exact countdown, The whole table would flip as time is wasted.Way too many things wrong with playing with your rack.
 
ash_1050 said:
Old news, it's been in progress for about 3 months and will become the new poker room to allow for more car parking.
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This is partially correct. There will be new tables in the old Sanity area, but the Vegas room will be staying as it is currently.
 

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backchat said:
This is partially correct. There will be new tables in the old Sanity area, but the Vegas room will be staying as it is currently.
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So what does that mean, the poker room is being split up?

Makes no sense at all

What games are they planning on putting in the new area, or are they building a studio type area so they stop using Studio 3 during Aussie Millions?

Would seem strange unless it was going to be a high stakes area, it makes no sense to split the lower limits up into different areas
 
up 140 on the 1/2 tables last night when absoluetly paraletic. suprised they let me in to be honest. :)
 
JuddsABlue said:
So what does that mean, the poker room is being split up?

Makes no sense at all

What games are they planning on putting in the new area, or are they building a studio type area so they stop using Studio 3 during Aussie Millions?

Would seem strange unless it was going to be a high stakes area, it makes no sense to split the lower limits up into different areas
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It doesnt make sense, but AFAIK they dont want to get rid of the Vegas room, so they have decided on some more tables in the new area.

And apparently, there will be some new high stakes tables upstairs. Exactly where im not sure, but hopefully i will find out more this week.
 
Black Thunder said:
up 140 on the 1/2 tables last night when absoluetly paraletic. suprised they let me in to be honest. :)
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Think the dealers need to have a bit of responsibility with this and not deal people in that are obviously too drunk.

Had a guy sit down that had to keep asking what cards were on the board, burning his money, and at one point he goes all in for ~50, gets a couple of calls, and as actions is on others the dealer mucks his hand. He is like wtf, and dealer who was obviously irritated by him was rather rude, and basically said well don't put your cards forward, that's a muck.

I mean the guy likely is not wanting to muck his hand, and even if it technically is a muck the dealer should be seeking confirmation in that spot first. Either give them a bit of leeway, or don't let them play (much like a new player) - instead, dealer choose to be a prick.
 
Sounds like the dealer was a bit of a prick, but players have to protect their cards, especially when seated next to the dealer:

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On a scale of 1 to lolbad, how bad is this fold?

UTG with 33, pot ~$40, 3 runners.

Flop 39Kr.

UTG bets $30
Shove ~$90 from a solid reg.
Over shove ~$140 from newish player to the table

UTG ($350 behind) tank folds.
 
Vegas. said:
On a scale of 1 to lolbad, how bad is this fold?

UTG with 33, pot ~$40, 3 runners.

Flop 39Kr.

UTG bets $30
Shove ~$90 from a solid reg.
Over shove ~$140 from newish player to the table

UTG ($350 behind) tank folds.
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tempted to say about tree fiddy

actually about a 9 if its 2/5 and 8 if its 2/3
 
Thursday night: $450 profit
Friday night: $300 profit on baccarat (no poker)
Saturday night: $800 profit
Sunday night: -$400 loss
Monday night off
Tuesday night: $450 profit

Been a good last few sessions at 2/3 playing extremely confidently

Made some mistakes last night though, bluffed 400 into middle set with air lol but don't think it was a mistake at the time he just had it lol

Also lost some major equity with allin preflops too, the $400 loss I ran like shit but I it comes and goes I guess

They were training dealers there last night as well, excruciating.

Strong rumours going around over the weekend of a girl who came with $200 and ran it upto 1.3 million then lost it all back and started to cry at the tables. Bloke I was speaking too said he witnesses her playing 200k a hand. This was a different guy who first told me the story
 
JuddsABlue said:
Strong rumours going around over the weekend of a girl who came with $200 and ran it upto 1.3 million then lost it all back and started to cry at the tables. Bloke I was speaking too said he witnesses her playing 200k a hand. This was a different guy who first told me the story
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LOL if true, which i highly doubt.

Playing what game?
 
Not sure tbh I'm sure he would've said it but I can't remember

It was brought up by a few people throughout the night but who knows really like you said amazing if true

Playing in tonight's new $200 tournament dealer sat there doing absolutely nothing for the ten minutes leading up tournament starts and he hasn't washed either deck the laziness here is epic
 
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