Draft Profile Danial Gorringe

[DeepThroat007]

Whichever AFL club ends up with Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe is going to be pretty happy. The kid's finishing skills and mobility for a 198cm player are out of this world. ``In the second half you got to see why Dan Gorringe can be pretty exciting. I asked him to get some handball receives and have a bounce because he's fast and I've never seen him bounce the ball and he did that today so that was fun,'' Bassett said

Speaking with the Leader Messenger earlier this month, Sheehan said the 198cm ruckman had superb skills for his size.
"He's got all the credits that you'd want - he's a lovely size, can gather the ball at ground level, can kick a goal and be dangerous forward," he said.
"He is as good as any kid we've seen this season in the art of ruck work.
"The way he delivers the ball to the midfielders around the stoppages is as good as you could possibly see for a kid that's sub-AFL."

Sheehan said Gorringe shaped as a first round draft selection.
"He's really mobile. Unbelievably mobile.
"He's shown athletic ability and that hand-to-foot stuff has him the hottest ruck prospect in this year's group."
Norwood coach Nathan Bassett said Gorringe, who has played six league games for the Redlegs, had tremendous potential.
"His centre bounce stuff is very good ... and his awareness around the ground stuff ... is getting better."

 

[WALL-e]

Very much a top 10 at the moment.

 

[krisholio14]

Dead set cert to go top 10. Phenomenal skills and mobility for a big man.

 

[philthy05]

yes, dominated the champs from memory. when was the last time a 17 yr old ruckman played seniors ?? i think nicnat maybe played a few for swan districts seniors and he was an anomaly. gorry has played every game for the seniors when he didnt have champ commitments ( at least since i heard of him early in the season anyway). im sure port would love him but i personally think on talent he is pick 4-7. who picks him up depends on needs really. i know he shared the ruck with lycett at champs, im wondering for those that have seen a bit of these guys is how big is the gap between these 2 for ruck work? and if one shows more talent up forward than the other?? both seem to be very highly rated in both regards. i think gc have lots of talls on their list so probably fairly happy but will not pass up the chance to get a superstar. i imagine them taking best available as they see it, but will wind up with one of lycett or gorry.

 

[beatlesmith]

What's his contested marking like?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

What's his contested marking like?

It's quite good, although he hasn't been helped by an unusually wet season which hasn't helped the taller players. You can see it's all there, but IMHO (and this won't happen), he needs another season of senior footy under his belt in the SANFL before venturing to an AFL club. I think that would be better for his development than languishing in some local competition on the Gold Coast.

 

[DeepThroat007]

Imagine having brad ottens with more mobility or a Pavilich or Goodes just taller with less mobility, This kid will be a playing AFL in 10 years Time and all supportors will be looking for there club to draft a similar player in the draft.

 

[beowulf]

Whichever AFL club ends up with Norwood ruckman Dan Gorringe is going to be pretty happy. The kid's finishing skills and mobility for a 198cm player are out of this world. ``In the second half you got to see why Dan Gorringe can be pretty exciting. I asked him to get some handball receives and have a bounce because he's fast and I've never seen him bounce the ball and he did that today so that was fun,'' Bassett said

Speaking with the Leader Messenger earlier this month, Sheehan said the 198cm ruckman had superb skills for his size.
"He's got all the credits that you'd want - he's a lovely size, can gather the ball at ground level, can kick a goal and be dangerous forward," he said.
"He is as good as any kid we've seen this season in the art of ruck work.
"The way he delivers the ball to the midfielders around the stoppages is as good as you could possibly see for a kid that's sub-AFL."

Sheehan said Gorringe shaped as a first round draft selection.
"He's really mobile. Unbelievably mobile.
"He's shown athletic ability and that hand-to-foot stuff has him the hottest ruck prospect in this year's group."
Norwood coach Nathan Bassett said Gorringe, who has played six league games for the Redlegs, had tremendous potential.
"His centre bounce stuff is very good ... and his awareness around the ground stuff ... is getting better."

Teams with top ruckment shouldn't bother looking at Gorringe. He's a great kid, but he is going to be a ruckman, not a Josh Fraser.
Those who are short of a good ruckman would be salivating at the chance of picking a guy like this. His 3 goals in the last U18 game against Vic Country was basically the difference between winning and losing.
He probably doesn't get the ball enough for the athletic talent he has, but he has the tools to be a decent ruckman for 10 years. Most rucks couldn't get near him if he got the ball.
With Lycett of Port Adelaide, he would be the top ruck prospect in this draft and a top 10 certainty.

 

[neddy36]

I saw Gorringe make his SANFL League debut at the age of 16 last season. Didn't know anything about him. Comes on mid-late first quarter. First centre bounce, springs up and wins the hitout easily. Fantastic leap, I was "Who is this kid?".

Paid particular attention to his work at the centre bounces in SA v WA game at AAMI Stadium this year as they were thrown up and not bounced due to the boggy conditions. Struggled with his timing and was easily beaten in the first 2-3 CBs. Once he got his timing down, he won 90% of the centre bounces after that. A real thinker, finesse style of ruckman.

Very rangy. Would love to know his reach. Looks to have long arms. Has got pretty good hands for ruckman. Kicking can be a bit inconsistent though. As good as advertised. Expect a development curve like Leuenberger but hopefully without the injuries.

 

[Damon_3388]

From seeing him play live recently, as others have said, he does have a good leap, but gets outbodied pretty easily, even by shorter players. Not sure if he'd retain all his athleticism once he puts on the required muscle (probably needs a good 15kg on his frame, as I think he's listed at 84kg). I also think he needs another year at SANFL level, because he's definitely not ready physically for AFL footy. Still, might be worth a draft pick and have him develop in the local league wherever he is drafted for a couple of years.

 

[XztatiK]

Gorringe has shown everything you could possibly hope for in a 17 year old ruckman. The only glaring deficiency is his strength in body-on-body contests. Ever heard of a gym, spud day? Because I think every AFL club has one and once he bulks up he will be a very very good ruckman. BTW, he has been getting more than 6 hitouts a game in limited TOG. We will see if he keeps his spot now that Doyle is back fit.

 

[henjo]

Have seen Gorringe play a few times this year and what I find impressive is his ability to play like a midfielder. He is very good below the knees and has great hands and kick also. I would summarise him as an intelligent player as opposed to a bash and crash ruckman. Has also kicked goals at reserves, league and state level, therefore I think he could also be a ruck/forward player. Bassett has really developed this kid and I think there isn't a better tap ruckman going around at the moment. Of course he will be outbodied against established ruckmen at the moment, but once in the AFL system I am confident he will bulk up and furhter learn his craft. In my opinion a top 5 pick and good luck to the kid. Have also heard that he is a level headed lad, that is very focussed on his football. This trait can only be a good thing.

 

[T4P]

What are his chances of ending up at Richmond? He sounds good. What are his defficiencies besides the obvious ones that come with his age (being skinny and outmuscled easily)?
Is he a smart player?
Is his kicking a problem at all?

 

[XztatiK]

What are his chances of ending up at Richmond? He sounds good. What are his defficiencies besides the obvious ones that come with his age (being skinny and outmuscled easily)?
Is he a smart player?
Is his kicking a problem at all?

Shows good spacing for a youngster. He knows where the ball is going to be bombed to as a last resort and regularly chops it off with those great hands.

Kicking solid for a big man. Nothing special. I haven't seen him kick over 50m yet though.

Edit: Better kick than I gave him credit for as I keep watching him.

 

[spud_day]

Now this is merely an observation:
Gorringe did not register a hitout yesterday, even against the shorter Central ruckman Jason Mackenzie, who I'll admit is much bigger, but the extra height and reach of Gorringe should've enabled him to register at least one hitout. Further Central's other ruckman, Jason Sutherland, who was plucked from country football obscurity, was still able to keep Gorringe from touching the ball.
And I know what you're going to say, 'he wasn't on the ground for very long' etc. etc. but don't you think the reason for that is that Nathan Bassett saw this kid as too much of a liability in an important game?
Also, his very paltry possession count and lack of a tackle suggests he didnt attempt (or failed) to read his opponents taps and get involved on the ground after he was beaten in the ruck.

 

[Crowman32]

Now this is merely an observation:
Gorringe did not register a hitout yesterday, even against the shorter Central ruckman Jason Mackenzie, who I'll admit is much bigger, but the extra height and reach of Gorringe should've enabled him to register at least one hitout. Further Central's other ruckman, Jason Sutherland, who was plucked from country football obscurity, was still able to keep Gorringe from touching the ball.
And I know what you're going to say, 'he wasn't on the ground for very long' etc. etc. but don't you think the reason for that is that Nathan Bassett saw this kid as too much of a liability in an important game?
Also, his very paltry possession count and lack of a tackle suggests he didnt attempt (or failed) to read his opponents taps and get involved on the ground after he was beaten in the ruck.

I must admit i'm not sure what all the fuss is about Gorringe and why is so highly rated. I have seen if play a few games and he hasnt done hardly anything in any of those games. In fact he has hardly had any possessions in any of those games and I can barely remember him taking a mark in any of those games. I know he is a young kid playing league footy but i would expect a bit more from someone who is expected to go top 6 in this years draft. I would be amazed if Gorringe was drafted before Polec and Smith in this years draft.

 

[Shazzman]

I must admit i'm not sure what all the fuss is about Gorringe and why is so highly rated. I have seen if play a few games and he hasnt done hardly anything in any of those games. In fact he has hardly had any possessions in any of those games and I can barely remember him taking a mark in any of those games. I know he is a young kid playing league footy but i would expect a bit more from someone who is expected to go top 6 in this years draft. I would be amazed if Gorringe was drafted before Polec and Smith in this years draft.

Maybe Gorringe has ran out of juice *badoomtish*

 

[henjo]

Wow, its truly amazing how people get so negative so quickly. You don't count spud day as most of your comments have been previously deleted anyway due to their stupidity and ignorance.
I watched Gorringe on the weekend and he did not have a great day out, but lets keep it real. I also saw this kid in the u18 Carnvial in SA and Vic and he was heads and shoulders above player shis own age. To me this shows that when playing against equal opposition he out taps, out marks and out goals his opponents. Being an avid or tragic Norwood fan I have also seen him play in the reserves where he has torn it up.
Playing league footy this year I am sure has been a very sttep learning curve for him and there has been games when he has battled. However, there has also been games when he he beaten the more senior opponent. South Adelaide is an example of this and I also recall a Friday night game against Sturt where he sat on Giles' shoulders in a ruck contest.
The point I am trying to make is that we need to view this kid in the right and context and that is that he is a tall (always develop slower than smalls) and he is playing against some pretty established rucks in the second best comp in Australia.
I still think he will go early in the draft as do most of the experts that know more about this than us. He will then more than likely spend a year in the local comps while they develop him further and build him up.
Can I finish by saying that if all some poeple can do is get on here and criticise and be negative, with no contrucitve comments, why bother? Too many key board warriors. Pretty gutless work!

 

[spud_day]

I feel that its necessary to look at this kid from more than the purely positive point of view, as I'm pretty sure there are deficiencies in his game. And I think that both of your examples of him standing out are flawed. So he sat on giles head in a ruck contest? Giles still had 55 hitouts and Gorringe only 5. Now i know they didnt compete solely against each other for the whole game but even sturts second ruckman had 4 times as many hitouts as Gorringe. And in the south game, he managed 9 hitouts. This is in a game where the majority of his ruckwork came against the equally inexperienced Keegan Brooksby, who had double the hitouts, and is only 1 year older than Gorringe. I keep bringing it back to hitouts because its the primary job of the ruckman to win the hitout. Also, you say he dominated against people his own age in the U/18s carnival, but when he gets drafted he wont be rucking against 18 year olds will he?

 

[Demon 16]

Also, you say he dominated agains people his own age in the U/18s carnival, but when he gets drafted he wont be rucking agains 18 year olds will he?

Thats why he'll probably spend 3 or 4 years being nurtureed in the VFL until he's ready like most young ruckmen.

Not saying he's perfect and I like your opinions - but there arent many 18 y/o's running around in the SANFL seniors.

And the thinig I like most about Gorringe is that I can see him being a quality tap ruckman who will continue to be involved around the ground - but his agility means he could also be groomed purely as a forward and would still become a good AFL player.

Doubt he'll get to Melbourne but fingers crossed..!

 

[henjo]

I feel that its necessary to look at this kid from more than the purely positive point of view, as I'm pretty sure there are deficiencies in his game. And I think that both of your examples of him standing out are flawed. So he sat on giles head in a ruck contest? Giles still had 55 hitouts and Gorringe only 5. Now i know they didnt compete solely against each other for the whole game but even sturts second ruckman had 4 times as many hitouts as Gorringe. And in the south game, he managed 9 hitouts. This is in a game where the majority of his ruckwork came against the equally inexperienced Keegan Brooksby, who had double the hitouts, and is only 1 year older than Gorringe. I keep bringing it back to hitouts because its the primary job of the ruckman to win the hitout. Also, you say he dominated agains people his own age in the U/18s carnival, but when he gets drafted he wont be rucking agains 18 year olds will he?

I really do not understand why you are using this forum to ridicule a kid. Perhaps you should create a new forum titled "players who shouldn't be drafted". The whole point of this thread is to discuss kids that are likely to be drafted and I see no value in being completely critical and negative. As others have said in this thread, how many 17-18 year old ruckmen are playing senior footy? I think that Nathan Bassett accepts that he is going to beaten in the ruck more often than not, however, one of the great things he has been able to do is nullify the more experienced rucks in terms of making their taps ineffective. I brought up the u18 state carnival because it is easier to compare apples with apples and measure this kid against other kids his same age. I accept that he won't be rucking against kids in the AFL, however as others have also said he will play in a local comp while they physically and mentally develop him. Based on your argument of not measuring his ability on the u18 Carnival do we also discount Sam Day for example? Sam is being talked up as a top 3 but has not played senior football. I for one beleive Sam will and should go top three and beleive Daniel GOrringe will go in the top 10 if not earlier. The reason is because clubs are picking based on potential. This is one of the reasons why he will go early. The AFL scouts will base their decisions on his performance at u18 level, where he earnt All Australia I might add and his games at reserves and senior levels this year. Whilst he has deficiencies in his game they will look at how they can develop him, based on potential. An example would be that he has a fantastic vertical leap, so this would excite AFL clubs. He led hit outs in the State Canrival by a mile so the clubs will be thinking how can we further develop this kid so that he can get to the next level - again its about potential. There are very few draft picks, particulalry talls that will play AFL football in their first year.
Can I urge you to stop being so negative and respect this thread for what it is. As I mentioned in an earlier post you have already had most of your posts deleted due to them being inappropriate so why go down that road again? You obviously have an issue with this kid, but for goodness sakes stop making it public as its rather embarrasing for you.

 

[spud_day]

Interesting to note Daniel Gorringe's omission from Norwood's preliminary final squad. Obviously his recent string of poor perfomances caused Nathan Bassett to see him as too much of a liability to be included in the team...hmmmm

 

[Dragonfire]

Might be leaving for the draft camp on Sunday hence his omission

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Thats why he'll probably spend 3 or 4 years being nurtureed in the VFL until he's ready like most young ruckmen.

Not saying he's perfect and I like your opinions - but there arent many 18 y/o's running around in the SANFL seniors.

And the thinig I like most about Gorringe is that I can see him being a quality tap ruckman who will continue to be involved around the ground - but his agility means he could also be groomed purely as a forward and would still become a good AFL player.

Doubt he'll get to Melbourne but fingers crossed..!

I think he would probably spend one season in the VFL, then with two pre-seasons would start getting some AFL exposure, maybe 4-7 games in his second season as a start and if he performs well, more games obviously in his third you would hope he would be getting 8-12 games in and by his fourth and fifth you would be hoping for 15 games +

this may seem like high expectations but he is a very talented player and with a 3-4 pre seasons there is no reason he couldn't be a good 2nd ruckman/forward at AFL level. Obviously he would start hitting his straps around his 6-7th season.

There are very few ruckman who can play from almost day one. Naitanui and Kruezer have done this and IMO they are the clear next star ruckmen of the competition, Gorringe isn't as built as either of them were but has the potential to be as good as either and seemingly has the x-factor of NN around the ground

i could understand the dees drafting him, but with Gawn and Fitzpatrick (touted as top 10 until chronic fatigue syndrome) i think recruiting a pure key forward would be a better option

anyway sorry to get a little off topic towards the end

 

[Demon 16]

I think he would probably spend one season in the VFL, then with two pre-seasons would start getting some AFL exposure, maybe 4-7 games in his second season as a start and if he performs well, more games obviously in his third you would hope he would be getting 8-12 games in and by his fourth and fifth you would be hoping for 15 games +

i could understand the dees drafting him, but with Gawn and Fitzpatrick (touted as top 10 until chronic fatigue syndrome) i think recruiting a pure key forward would be a better option

Yeh fair call - particularly given he has senior experience already so might be able to cope with a bit more early.

With interchange restrictions arriving clubs will use the resting ruckman in the forward line alot more so the Dees would be all over this guy I reckon. Gawn and Fitzpatrick are both still too speculative (fingers crossed though).

Next best pure forward is probably Lynch but I reckon Gorringe is a slightly better bet - as either a ruckman or pure forward to be honest.