Mega Thread David Evans Resigns

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Costanza Velvet said:
Isn't the main argument the welfare of the players? What kind of message would the club be sending if the coach walks out on its players before the findings?
If the club is guilty - Hird will stand down and you can all dance on his grave but if the club is cleared - how could you possibly argue Hird should go.

We will know in about 9 days what happened at EFC last year.
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As regards the potential health effects of the drug programme most certainly.

But it's only a concern to non-Essendon supporters from what I have seen.

I can't recall much in the way of Essendon supporters here expressing such concerns.

Which is both quite telling and pathetic.
 
fishardansin said:
Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.
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More information please.

And, after reading blackshadow's post, I've checked Evans' statement. He has resigned from the board.
 
fishardansin said:
The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.
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So remind me . . . why is Evans getting such praise if a new approach and new person is needed?

Would seem to me that's an admission Evans has screwed up.

Or was Evans the first bit of nuclear fallout?
 

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jodo27 said:
I take it that you are in full agreement with Caro's articles on Dane Swan and Daisy Thomas and their drug taking exploits. Collingwood supporters have short memories when they smell blood from another team. Caroline Wilson is not an investigative journalist but she is a gossip columnist. I don't care what Ms Wilson looks like but the self righteous garbage that is in her columns and various media appearance should not go unchallenged.
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Youre right Caroline Wilson Single Handedly held your players down and injected them, she also employed Dank to take you down.
 
fishardansin said:
Well said. It's also worth mentioning that he didn't resign from the board, just the chair. The man who is about to take over is very aggressive about this issue and it's about to go nuclear.
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I think the man who is about to take over is going to be learning a lot of stuff over the next week he didn't know about.
 
go team said:
At risk of running the discussion around in circles, how much more can a club do then:

a) Suspend those directly involved in the fitness program
b) Call for an independent review of club practices
c) Agree to ASADA to investigate and co-operate with investigations
d) Act on independent review (resignation of Robson)
e) Wait for the ASADA investigation to complete before acting further.

Should we be calling for Hird's head? Whilst players clearly still support him? Before the ASADA investigation is complete? I'm suspect many opinions of Essendon supporters will change once the ASADA report is complete, but until then, I see nothing wrong with fan standing by their team.
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In my opinion asking Hird to step aside pending the outcome of the investigation would have been quite reasonable (Hird offering to do so even better). He stated that he accepted full responsibility while around him several of the key figures were being sidelined because of the issue.

I also think that after J Watson made his statements he also should have considered stepping aside pending the outcome of the investigation. he self-declared a potential involvement in something clearly outside the spirit of the game. i also think he could have handed in his Brownlow until his status was clarified by the investigation.

Bomber Thompson similar.
 
theGav56 said:
In my opinion asking Hird to step aside pending the outcome of the investigation would have been quite reasonable (Hird offering to do so even better). He stated that he accepted full responsibility while around him several of the key figures were being sidelined because of the issue.

I also think that after J Watson made his statements he also should have considered stepping aside pending the outcome of the investigation. he self-declared a potential involvement in something clearly outside the spirit of the game. i also think he could have handed in his Brownlow until his status was clarified by the investigation.

Bomber Thompson similar.
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Where is he in all of this? Admittedly i haven't been following this closely (at all) but i've not heard his name mentioned. It's all Hird, Hird, Hird.
 
I would note that over the last several days that more and more journalists have come to realisation that Essendon players will get banned.

At first it was just the genuine investigative journalists. The people that actually did their own research, who as questions and who understood what Strict Liability meant. Now it too is all the spoon fed hacks that rely on easy stories from their football mates., and who normally avoid anything that might upset any player or club, for fear that their sources will dry up, and that they may have to then actually have to act. as journalists rather than just PR regurgitators.

Last hold out seems to be the CH7 football commentators. Noted that Leigh Matthews was most uncomfortable amongst the fawners like Bruce with whom the light bulb has not yet come on.
 
SunshineTiger said:
Youre right Caroline Wilson Single Handedly held your players down and injected them, she also employed Dank to take you down.
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I think you are missing the point. Caro regularly writes articles / opinion pieces that turn out to be incorrect. she never apologies or accepts responsibility for her mistakes and or her inaccurate sources. It is not illegal to inject players with legal supplements or to employ sports scientists !
 
jodo27 said:
I think you are missing the point. Caro regularly writes articles / opinion pieces that turn out to be incorrect. she never apologies or accepts responsibility for her mistakes and or her inaccurate sources. It is not illegal to inject players with legal supplements or to employ sports scientists !
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so what youre saying that the injections and substances were legal?
 

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jodo27 said:
I think you are missing the point. Caro regularly writes articles / opinion pieces that turn out to be incorrect. she never apologies or accepts responsibility for her mistakes and or her inaccurate sources. It is not illegal to inject players with legal supplements or to employ sports scientists !
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She identified Hird as a main instigator. Lets see if she got that wrong.

Very interested in hearing Robinson's account tomorrow.
 
nicky said:
Where is he in all of this? Admittedly i haven't been following this closely (at all) but i've not heard his name mentioned. It's all Hird, Hird, Hird.
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Caro said in the beginning that Bomber instigated the whole thing and must go. Last week she said Bomber was innocent in all of this and claims Bomber pleaded and pleaded to Hird not to hire these people.
Confused? So are we all
 
Costanza Velvet said:
Caro said in the beginning that Bomber instigated the whole thing and must go. Last week she said Bomber was innocent in all of this and claims Bomber pleaded and pleaded to Hird not to hire these people.
Confused? So are we all
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I guess Bomber is next to go.......is that the meeting hird had with the CEO?

H I need another head to suck the life out of

G but Jim we are running out of escape goats

H if you don't get me one youre next

G but I wasn't here

H I need heads you should have known
 
Costanza Velvet said:
..Confused? So are we all
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Any confusion arises from your desire to blame anyone other than key personnel at Essendon for its plight. How you and other supporters and members cannot condemn an organisation that allows boys/young men to be injected with substances that have not been fully tested and passed as safe for human consumption is astounding. Where the substances are or are not on WADA/ASADA/AFL lists, what defences are available, whether the coach and/or Chairman are or are not men of integrity pale into insignificance, that behaviour borders on criminality.
 
sherb said:
As regards the potential health effects of the drug programme most certainly.

But it's only a concern to non-Essendon supporters from what I have seen.

I can't recall much in the way of Essendon supporters here expressing such concerns.

Which is both quite telling and pathetic.
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oh please "potential health effects"

what a load of bull
 
theGav56 said:
In my opinion asking Hird to step aside pending the outcome of the investigation would have been quite reasonable (Hird offering to do so even better). He stated that he accepted full responsibility while around him several of the key figures were being sidelined because of the issue.

I also think that after J Watson made his statements he also should have considered stepping aside pending the outcome of the investigation. he self-declared a potential involvement in something clearly outside the spirit of the game. i also think he could have handed in his Brownlow until his status was clarified by the investigation.

Bomber Thompson similar.
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Exactly what good men would have done.

Hird's view of "take full responsibility" is just reading out a statement, he needs to follow with the actions of a leader, and this whole affair really does showcase his inherit lack of leadership traits. In the confines of playing football each week it was never tested, but when it has been tested it isn't what he is made of.
 
DrEvil said:
I can assure you this has nothing to do with Essendon but everything to do with an illegal drug program in a club. Cannot see any different reaction if this happened at Hawthorn or Western Bulldogs. You just have a case of delusion of grandeur mixed with some sense of victimization.
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Actually no, the post was about the manner in which David Evans has handled himself. Not defending the club in any way whatsoever. Have another read.
 

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