Game Day DAY 1 LIVE - 2018 NAB AFL Draft - Round 1, Thursday 22/11 12PM AEDT

[LukeParkerno1]

Wondering why he lasted so long...
There must have been something bugging recruiters.

Shows how in this draft there’s a clear top 6, then an even 15.

 

[Taylor]

Until last night, the last time Adelaide had a draft pick in single figures was 2004.....

Draft picks mean nothing. Selecting the right talent is everything, and the Blues have a buffoon in charge.

Carlton players who missed 10+ games with injury:
- Docherty, Kreuzer, Murphy, Marchbank, Kennedy, Plowman, Phillips, Casboult, Cuningham, Pickett, Byrne, Lang

Other Carlton players who missed 5+ games with injury in one hit:
- Fisher, Weitering, Rowe, Jones,

By my reckoning, that list includes:
- Our only All-Australian player (prior to the season) AND our captain
- 6 players from the top 10 of our best and fairest in 2017 (with a 7th having been traded)
- Our ruckman, back-up ruckman, and 'in case of emergencies' ruckman
- Our 4 best KP defenders, plus our best two mid-sized defenders

For a team that had very little depth, very little leadership, and a lot of young players to start with, it was a complete and utter disaster.

This discussion is over now.

Thanks and good day.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

Word around that we will bid on Briggs and not just to annoy that we'd be happy to have him.
Not saying its gospel by any stretch, but we do need a ruck soon.

Pretty sure we'll match.

Briggs isn't the short term answer to our ruck, but we need someone behind Matt Flynn and I can see him getting early games as a forward.

I'd hope we give some edge to a Western Sydney lad as well.

 

[PP34]

yes, i do realise. But pick 12 and Stocker for pick 2 doesn't sound any better, does it?

Who cares how it sounds to you?

What if Stocker turns into a good player? Means we get two players for the price of one.

But nah let’s keep assuming worst case scenario. SOS has drafted so many duds at Carlton hasn’t he?

 

[dlb99]

This perception is flat-out wrong. The reason that we are so terrible is that we haven't had many high draft picks over the past decade - up until 4 years ago. Here is Carlton's list of picks in the top 30 of the draft in the past 10 years

2008: pick 6
2009: pick 12
2010: pick 18
2011: pick 22
2012: pick 11
2013: pick 13
2014: pick 19, 28 (we later acquired picks 4, 6 and 15 via trade)
2015: picks 1, 10, 12, 23 (we later acquired pick 13 via trade)
2016: picks 6, 27 (we later acquired pick 5 via trade)
2017: picks 3, 10, 30
2018: picks 1, 19

So, in the first 7 years of the last decade - the players currently aged 24-28 (ie; peak years) we had exactly 1 pick in the top 10, and only 8 players taken in the top 30 of the draft. During that period of compromised drafts, we were trying to top up to win a premiership, playing finals in 2009-11 and 2013. In the last 4 years, since Malthouse was fired and Bolton/SOS joined the club, we have added 16 players in the top 30 of the draft.

Oh - maybe you are comparing to our last 're-build' - from 2002 to 2007. So, here's our drafting in that period:
2002: no picks in the top 30 (stripped of picks 1, 2, and 16 due to salary cap)
2003: pick 2 (stripped of picks 5 and 20 due to salary cap)
2004: pick 9, 25
2005: pick 1, 4, 20 (pick 4 was subsequently traded OUT))
2006: pick 1, 17, 19 (pick 17 was subsequently traded OUT)
2007: pick 1
2008 (the first year of our regrowth/last year we missed finals): pick 6
By the end of THAT process, we had a total of... 8 players taken in the top 30. When we were 'competing' from 2009-2014, we were too 'skinny'. We had top-end talent, but very little depth, had some glaring gaps in the list, and were very vulnerable to injuries. During 09-14, we traded a lot of picks to try and plug gaps, which left us even skinnier.

So how is this time different for Carlton? That's pretty simple:
a) We have twice as many players acquired in the top 30 in the draft as our last 'rebuild'. 16 vs 8. A LOT more young talent
b) This rebuild won't run into compromised drafts; we will have much better draft currency to keep adding over the next 5 years than we did from 2009-14
c) Free agency and increased player movement makes it easier to plug gaps than before. When we get there, we'll be able to top up more easily
d) Our players in the 22-25 age bracket (Cripps, Docherty, McGovern) are better than anyone we had in that age bracket in 2008 (Nick Stevens, Carazzo, Scotland)

Excellent post that puts a lie to many BF poster perceptions about the Blues especially pre-2008 and post.

 

[Harris Specter]

Classless from St Kilda..

SAINTS INFURIATE SUNS WITH KING TWINS TWEET


Gold Coast has a major problem retaining players and St Kilda poured fuel on the fire last night by floating the possibility of uniting the King twins in the AFL only hours after Ben was drafted by the Suns.

The Saints secured key forward Max with pick No.4, while Gold Coast took defender/forward Ben with selection No.6 despite some talk he could request a trade home in two or four years.

Clearly, St Kilda is aware of such talk and were quick to tweet last night about the possibility of both Max and Ben playing together in the red, white and black.

"Ben, if you ever want to come home…," the Saints captioned a photo of the brothers from their official club account with a wink-face attached.

Gold Coast is aware of the tweet and it's understood the club is far from impressed.

The tweet has since been removed.

 

[PP34]

Not sure you understand the trade

It’s embarrasing. For all they know Carlton could have rated him as a top ten talent. They have smartly waited to see if he would slip and then bought into the draft wth best years pick. The pick number is ****ing irrelevant.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Classless from St Kilda..

Wow that’s out of order.

 

[Isaac Cumming No 1]

Classless from St Kilda..

Naaah

It's funny. Saints threatening to steal players is like NZ threatening threatening to invade.

Some head scratching but no real problem.

 

[Wild Bill]

Will the remaining draft picks follow the same boring 5 min clock rubbish? Or will it flow like normal??

 

[Taylor]

Will the remaining draft picks follow the same boring 5 min clock rubbish? Or will it flow like normal??

I sure hope not.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Will the remaining draft picks follow the same boring 5 min clock rubbish? Or will it flow like normal??

Only the first round has the 5 minute minute minimum between picks.

Clubs have 5mins but they can take 1 minute if they desire

 

[peternorth]

Two things:

1) Gold coast need to change their jumper. The logo is shit.
2) I heard on SEN this morning that non vic clubs like to take Vic Country boys cause they're used to being away from home. Pretty sure Dandenong isn't a rural/country/satellite city

 

[Lore]

Day 1 is done, time for a new thread folks: 2018 NAB AFL Draft - Round 2 TODAY 12PM AEDT

For more coverage of yesterday's live trades, please use the following threads, or refer to the relevant club boards:

Live trade 1/2: Sydney receive 24 and future 3rd from West Coast for 26 and future 2nd

Live trade 3: Carlton receive #19 and future 1st from Adelaide for their future 1st