Player Watch Dayne Beams (Retired 2020)

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OK. Let’s reset and move on.
Soon our mids will have Sier & Adams added, plus Cox for ruck/forward.
It’s enough to get us really moving, but sadly the amazing depth we were after is now affected.
Damn these bloody injuries.
 
BigCharlie said:
So you think someone having labral surgery, where he won't be able to run until the end of July, is going to be fit to play finals football?

It's actually terrifying that you are a teacher. Utterly terrifying.



Another simpleton. I am a Collingwood football club supporter, and have been since 1973.
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Go and check the history books and im sure you’ll find many players who have missed a 4-5 week block in the middle of the season and played finals just fine.

These are AFL footballers. You don’t think after putting in the yards on the track for a few weeks, and a couple of games in the back-end of the year, a seasoned AFL footballer who has been in the league 10+ years can’t come in and have an impact? Laughable
 

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Ok so with Beams going down I believe that the pies made a mistake with their mid year draft pick. There was a chance to pick up Alex Woodward who would have been straight into the side this week. Perfect pick up for this year but they didn’t. I wonder if it was this week whether the draft pick would have been different?
 
shizzle said:
It sucks but it's also a good thing. His form hasn't been where it should be, most of us thought he'll be right, but it was moving towards a point where his form may not warrant senior selection.

Why I say it's good, is that his form can be solely attributed to a physical impairment. A guy who just last year finished 8th in the Brownlow despite missing games plus all he had going on hadn't just lost it this year, or was on a downward trend for the rest of his career. His body wasn't allowing him to have the impact we expected.

This is just a bit of maintenance, he'll likely be back at some stage or if not when he does return he'll be back at his best, something we haven't been able to see in 2019.

Also I hope a great chance for Sier, one would assume the club is satisfied with his time in the VFL but also really feels that they really need him in the side. This guy was building nicely last year towards what I and many others felt was a 2019 with him playing a significant role. That hasn't happened as yet, for several reasons, but I hope he really grabs the opportunity when it comes.
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Just wanting to highlight this post as a shiny beacon of sanity. We got through 2018 with many more injuries.

Just a great chance to play more of our junior squad and test our depth. Love to see Daicos and Sier and Beams would always have pushed them out. Now that decision has been taken away from Match Committee and they can be more creative.
 
CFC2010 said:
Disappointed for Dayne.

Not happy our professional medical staff played him on ball for most of the game last week when we knew he had an issue.

People can belittle BigCharlie all they luck but this is a cluster f k IMO.
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Well, strictly speaking its the coaching group who decide where individuals play.... but yeah, sounds like we pulled the wrong lever on this one..
 
CFC2010 said:
Disappointed for Dayne.

Not happy our professional medical staff played him on ball for most of the game last week when we knew he had an issue.

People can belittle BigCharlie all they luck but this is a cluster f k IMO.
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I don’t think the medical staff pick where he plays mate. If he’s declared fit then he plays wherever the coach says.

It’s obviously gotten worse again during the game and that’s it, in for surgery. Hips are tricky things.
 
Aussie pie said:
Ok so with Beams going down I believe that the pies made a mistake with their mid year draft pick. There was a chance to pick up Alex Woodward who would have been straight into the side this week. Perfect pick up for this year but they didn’t. I wonder if it was this week whether the draft pick would have been different?
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The guy has done 4 ACL’s and whilst he’s a jet in the VFL, he’s largely untested at the higher intensity of AFL. Add to that, we have the deepest midfield in the league, and Adams to return post bye, so in a couple of weeks our midfield will be just as strong as it was during the finals series last year. I don’t think they would have drafted any differently had this occurred earlier. Our list management team doesn’t run on knee jerk reactions.
 
Aishole said:
Go and check the history books and im sure you’ll find many players who have missed a 4-5 week block in the middle of the season and played finals just fine.
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He will not be running until the end of July Einstein. Bit more than 4-5 weeks. (And I am not talking casual laps).

Quicky said:
Is this something that we could have screened? Would we have known surgery the likely outcome if we'd picked it up? Could you predict when that surgery would be needed? I imagine the answers are Yes, Difficult to forecast, Difficult to forecast. I'm happy to give the club the benefit of the doubt on it.
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1)It's something they would have known. To not have known is gross negligence.

2)Depends on how much faith you put in evidence. Some of it points to conservative management having successful outcomes. None of those trials were large-scale studies conducted on Australian rules footballers, which makes them more or less irrelevant.

3)No.

4)They gambled and lost. Just like with Wells.
 
Aishole said:
Yeah ANOTHER one. God how s*** has our list management team been, i mean they picked up the likes of J. Howe, L.Greenwood, A.Treloar, T.Adams, T.Varcoe, J.Roughead, W. Hoskin-Elliott, J.Crisp, J.Elliott. Imagine... just IMAGINE how successful we would be if we didn’t have all these ‘facepalm recruitments’.

God.
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Be careful. There is every chance he wont even get the sarcasm in your post.
 

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Mukesh said:
Well, strictly speaking its the coaching group who decide where individuals play.... but yeah, sounds like we pulled the wrong lever on this one..
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The medical staff said he should play through it.......anyone at the ground could see he wasn’t right.

You say Coaching staff I say Medical staff........tomatoe........tomato.
 
Kirby said:
I don’t think the medical staff pick where he plays mate. If he’s declared fit then he plays wherever the coach says.

It’s obviously gotten worse again during the game and that’s it, in for surgery. Hips are tricky things.
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I get all that Kirby but my bullshit meter is on high alert with this news.
 
Gee not great news at all, feel for Dayne. Hope he can get cracking into rehab post-surgery and see what happens in the back end of the year
 
BigCharlie said:
He will not be running until the end of July Einstein. Bit more than 4-5 weeks. (And I am not talking casual laps).



1)It's something they would have known. To not have known is gross negligence.

2)Depends on how much faith you put in evidence. Some of it points to conservative management having successful outcomes. None of those trials were large-scale studies conducted on Australian rules footballers, which makes them more or less irrelevant.

3)No.

4)They gambled and lost. Just like with Wells.
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Sounds about right. I wonder how many players have issues that need this kind of management through their careers? There is a lot of off season surgery for this type of thing so I imagine a lot. The decision then comes down to how much risk you want to accept. I think its probably reasonable to accept that risk in that context.

I'm not sure Wells is a great comparison when you consider the injuries he's sufferred with us that's kept him out. A sesamoid injury and impact knee would be difficult to predict and for mine appear to fall in the bad luck category.
 
BigCharlie said:
He will not be running until the end of July Einstein. Bit more than 4-5 weeks. (And I am not talking casual laps).



1)It's something they would have known. To not have known is gross negligence.

2)Depends on how much faith you put in evidence. Some of it points to conservative management having successful outcomes. None of those trials were large-scale studies conducted on Australian rules footballers, which makes them more or less irrelevant.

3)No.

4)They gambled and lost. Just like with Wells.
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Yes misread, didn’t realise it was 3 months, thought it was 1-2. However, my point still stands, if he is fit to play by rd23 (best case scenario), it would indicate he has a block of training behind him, and if we go deep into finals, he may get 2 games or VFL into him, and i’d back Beams to come in and make an impact off 2 VFL games.
 
BigCharlie said:
Yes.
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I don’t recall that but I didn’t study the Lion’s injury list. I know he had quad, knee and shoulder injuries up there.

Do you recall when he suffered the hip injury?

I know he definitely hurt the hip earlier in the year with us.
 
CFC2010 said:
Disappointed for Dayne.

Not happy our professional medical staff played him on ball for most of the game last week when we knew he had an issue.

People can belittle BigCharlie all they luck but this is a cluster f k IMO.
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He come out of the woodwork when we face a dilemma to stick the boots in as much as possible... definitely a troll.
 
Bad luck for Beamer hope he can make it back by finals least we know why he's been down in form now surely the Bear comes in now
 
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