Player Watch Dayne Beams (Retired 2020)

[BigCharlie]

The club has access to world class surgeons and other medical staff.

On what basis do you make that statement?

Was Chris Bradshaw one of those?

“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks and it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally,” football manager Geoff Walsh said.

“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago. It was agreed then to push on but it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like."

Beams has been battling the injury for a number of weeks - since he arrrived at the club, really - saw a surgeon, and yet it was decided to try and battle on, even though the conservative approach wasn't allowing him to train and play?

 

[Quicky]

The doctor makes that call. They are independent of the club.

I'd say Beams makes that call and he would likely consider a whole range of things in making it. Including how it affects his profession. We also have a club doctor who would be involved. They're employed by the club. And I'm not suggesting anything untoward, unprofessional, unethical or unanything else when I say that. Merely pointing it out.

 

[Daicos Daze]

The club has access to world class coaches and analysis. The fact that people feel better placed to make assessments about Football is laughable.

Doctors make mistakes all the time Jmac, wake up.

Look at the bright side
We get a uninjured and fit beams for the finals

That’s reason we got beamsy on our list this year , experience for finals Time

 

[danielnajdek]

Yet another example where we don't take the surgery option and it backfires. Wouldn't surprise me if we hear in a few weeks that Langdon is having surgery. Our medical department is shit and that's me being polite.

 

[jmac70]

Maybe they meant hip pocket surgery.

Could be that his hip needs a clean up but isn't urgent, get it done now and get him some counciling, or his hip is stuffed are the rumours are false, the rumours I've heard about his gambling are very strong though.

What a crock. Take your cesspool BS and stick it.

 

[jmac70]

On what basis do you make that statement?

Was Chris Bradshaw one of those?

“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks and it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally,” football manager Geoff Walsh said.

“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago. It was agreed then to push on but it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like."

Beams has been battling the injury for a number of weeks - since he arrrived at the club, really - saw a surgeon, and yet it was decided to try and battle on, even though the conservative approach wasn't allowing him to train and play?

You leftie teachers really are something else.

WTF does quoting the article prove? He has been consulting a surgeon. I’m betting a lot more qualified than you.

 

[swoop42]

So are we all buying this injury claim?

Given all the Chinese whispers surrounding Beams of late you now have to at least entertain the possibility something else could be involved.

 

[Robroy22]

Sounds like TRUMP finally made it to BF....so much BS

 

[jmac70]

I'd say Beams makes that call and he would likely consider a whole range of things in making it. Including how it affects his profession. We also have a club doctor who would be involved. They're employed by the club. And I'm not suggesting anything untoward, unprofessional, unethical or unanything else when I say that. Merely pointing it out.

The club doctor has an engagement with the club, amongst other engagements. Patient first of course.
Anyone questioning Beams’ treatment is doing so from a position of pure ignorance.

 

[jmac70]

So are we all buying this injury claim?

Given all the Chinese whispers surrounding Beams of late you now have to at least entertain the possibility something else could be involved.

Oh man. And you really do work for the club?
Shame on you.

 

[sirlothie]

Anyone trying to draw a link between Beams' injury and the bullshit rumours is drawing an extremely long bow. That's all I'll say, I won't even bother trying to justify why it's ridiculous, it just is.

 

[anshell]

Well,this explains why his form has been so poor lately.This probably will be the best thing for him and the club,to have the problem fixed with surgery.Hopefully he can make it back in time for the finals.If Trealor can make it back after surgery on a double hamstring injury then Beams should be able to make it back after arthroscopic surgery on his hip.It certainly opens the door for Sier now.And if we’re being brutally honest,the Sier of 2018 was way more impressive than the Beams of 2019.Hopefully the bear can reproduce the form he showed last year and become a regular in the seniors again.

 

[Yidaki]

So are we all buying this injury claim?

Given all the Chinese whispers surrounding Beams of late you now have to at least entertain the possibility something else could be involved.

Unlikely given that its basically the entire season he has been rubbed out for.

 

[jackcass]

I diasagree I don’t mind people who are left field.....we don’t all have to agree here.

We got this one wrong it happens.......no need to defend our Club all the time.

I would have preferred 4 points last week and Beams sit on the bench in the second half.

We had Brown or Thomas who would have done better last week in the middle......but we persevered with an injured player.

There'd be dozens of players at every club "managed" through injury issues that we'd never hear about. Look at Pendles last year. Look at Howe. Look at all the players who line up for post season surgeries. Does anyone actually believe they don't happen or that occasionally they wont get them wrong. The fact we don't hear much likely means they get the vast majority right.

 

[CFC2010]

There'd be dozens of players at every club "managed" through injury issues that we'd never hear about. Look at Pendles last year. Look at Howe. Look at all the players who line up for post season surgeries. Does anyone actually believe they don't happen or that occasionally they wont get them wrong. The fact we don't hear much likely means they get the vast majority right.

Do you honestly think I don’t get all that jackcass?

No need to answer mate.

 

[jmac70]

Yet another example where we don't take the surgery option and it backfires. Wouldn't surprise me if we hear in a few weeks that Langdon is having surgery. Our medical department is **** and that's me being polite.

We consult surgeons such as Julian Feller. He doesn’t work in the “medical department”

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

On what basis do you make that statement?

Was Chris Bradshaw one of those?

“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks and it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally,” football manager Geoff Walsh said.

“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago. It was agreed then to push on but it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like."

Beams has been battling the injury for a number of weeks - since he arrrived at the club, really - saw a surgeon, and yet it was decided to try and battle on, even though the conservative approach wasn't allowing him to train and play?

You leftie teachers really are something else.

Ah politics. The last hibernating place. The jump from quoting a post, to a doctor, to a supposed teacher with inferred left leanings... uncle Rupert love you long time

 

[Piffdog]

Terrible news. Really hope he's alright in the long run, mentally and physically.

The only positive thing about it is that Sier is in form right at the exact time he needs to be. And Adams post bye.

However, it just takes us back to our midfield from last year which just wasn't quite good enough.

The same midfield as last year with a 2 goal better defence probably is good enough...

 

[Lockyer24]

Our world class doctors and medical staff sure do **** up a lot.

Like the Langdon prediction - cos there is a fair chance it will happen!

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[nahnah]

not sure if he is a pies supporter or not but he has a crazy obsession with injuries

 

[jackcass]

The only thing I’m upset about is why didn’t we get him into surgery sooner?Why do we persist with playing injured players?
We played Pendlebury injured last year as well.

Maybe because Beams at less than 100% is better than the next best option at VFL level. That option happened to be Wills who had already had a couple of trial runs. Maybe now that Sier has put together a decent game, Daicos has strung a few together, and Broomy looks to be finding form, they think it's a better time.

 

[Daicos Torpedo]

Maybe because Beams at less than 100% is better than the next best option at VFL level. That option happened to be Wills who had already had a couple of trial runs. Maybe now that Sier has put together a decent game, Daicos has strung a few together, and Broomy looks to be finding form, they think it's a better time.

This voice of logical reason above.
No Rand corporation/reverse vampires glowing in the dark stuff here...

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I hope Tom Wilson is available to perform the surgery...

... that’s it; that’s all the humour I can muster at our perennial injury woes. It’s just soul destroying.

“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks and it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally,” football manager Geoff Walsh said.

“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago. It was agreed then to push on but it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like."

Beams has been battling the injury for a number of weeks - since he arrrived at the club, really - saw a surgeon, and yet it was decided to try and battle on, even though the conservative approach wasn't allowing him to train and play?

I read that quote differently.

Dayne has had the injury for a number of weeks (“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks”).

At the onset of the injury, he consulted a surgeon. (“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago.”)

The outcome of that consult was that the conservative approach was trialled. (“It was agreed then to push on”)

At the current time, it has been decided that conservative management has not been successful. (“it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally”, “it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like.”)

As a result they’ve now opted for surgery.

Where we differ is that I don’t see mismanagement. I see a player who developed an issue, consulted a surgeon, developed a conservative management plan under the advice of the surgeon, found the plan was not working as hoped and so developed a new plan.

Yes, this is based upon my interpretation of the quotes.

Where we largely agree is that, hip scopes being what they are, Beams having a meaningful impact this year is now a Hail Mary. It will take a lot of good fortune, with which we are hardly flush, and the lure of the last couple if weeks in September to get there. I don’t see it, personally, but there may be more to the story than we’ve been made aware of.

 

[anshell]

I hope Tom Wilson is available to perform the surgery...

... that’s it; that’s all the humour I can muster at our perennial injury woes. It’s just soul destroying.


I read that quote differently.

Dayne has had the injury for a number of weeks (“Dayne has been battling with the injury for a number of weeks”).

At the onset of the injury, he consulted a surgeon. (“Dayne saw a surgeon a couple of weeks ago.”)

The outcome of that consult was that the conservative approach was trialled. (“It was agreed then to push on”)

At the current time, it has been decided that conservative management has not been successful. (“it has reached the stage where it is affecting his ability to train, to run out games and his form generally”, “it has since become clear that the situation isn’t helping Dayne perform as he and we would like.”)

As a result they’ve now opted for surgery.

Where we differ is that I don’t see mismanagement. I see a player who developed an issue, consulted a surgeon, developed a conservative management plan under the advice of the surgeon, found the plan was not working as hoped and so developed a new plan.

Yes, this is based upon my interpretation of the quotes.

Where we largely agree is that, hip scopes being what they are, Beams having a meaningful impact this year is now a Hail Mary. It will take a lot of good fortune, with which we are hardly flush, and the lure of the last couple if weeks in September to get there. I don’t see it, personally, but there may be more to the story than we’ve been made aware of.

Good to hear your opinion Royal Sampler.What is the usual recovery time for arthroscopic surgery on the hip?12 weeks seems a long time for something that doesn’t sound all that major.

 

[legendstatus]

Hopefully he is back for the finals


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