Deconstructing the JonBenet Ramsey case - Delphi Murders

[Kurve]

Crime board thread: JonBenet Ramsey

 

[Exe Gesis]

All evidence so far points to a crime committed inside the house....sexual assault and murder. No way she was killed outside and brought in later. No cars coming and going all night etc.

Further, all those dna reports of foreign skin under her nails is BS, he says.

How come not a single bit of dna from her father on her body. An own fathers dna fibers, would exist on his daughter. As per usual parent-child relations.

She was wiped down. Also LicoriceAllsorts this explains why john carried her away from himself, doesnt want his dna coming into contact with her body up the stairs.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Possible test run was done a couple months before.....fleet whites daughter reported missing, asses police response, found her hiding under her bed.

Again no dna of patsy, burke, john found on benet ...this is a close family, doesnt mesh up, eradication of dna obvious

No sense to defile her body post accidental death, no parents would do that either, etc. The reverse more likely....the defiling was happening before death, then death, so now try to cover it up, remove dna, clothing, underwear, wipe semen, etc.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Facts. ...

Person did not break in or out. They were there already.

A person from outside would not know that she was wearing wednesday underwear and needing to replace it with another wednesday underwear and where to find another pair of wednesday underwear (a christmas gift yet to be given to an older niece).

These underwears with days of the week are printed on the inside of the waistband. Theyre not easy to know about unless you have kids with that underwear

 

[Exe Gesis]

The professor is convincing me far more.

John, Patay, Fleet. All the evidence used to exonerate them is evidence that only convicts them really.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Black light cops use has filters that detect differences between urine sweat, saliva, semen. Semen has proteins in it. Urine etc dont, so they show up differently.

Arndt said it was clearly semen stains found on benets bed, as well as fibers from the garotte cord found in her bed.

Professor....clearly the way she was tied up would only have been doable in a bedroom setting, tied to a post or bed head, but wine cellar nothing in it that could be used to tie her in a prone way (face down).

Reckons murder scene was her bedroom and moved to wine cellar.

woooooow

 

[Exe Gesis]

Professional sea-faring knots, knowing the professional technique to tie over long sleeve, the note, the semen in bedroom, the latch on wine cellar which is over 6 foot high....all the work of adults. Not a 8 yo Burke

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

All evidence so far points to a crime committed inside the house....sexual assault and murder. No way she was killed outside and brought in later. No cars coming and going all night etc.

Further, all those dna reports of foreign skin under her nails is BS, he says.

How come not a single bit of dna from her father on her body. An own fathers dna fibers, would exist on his daughter. As per usual parent-child relations.

She was wiped down. Also LicoriceAllsorts this explains why john carried her away from himself, doesnt want his dna coming into contact with her body up the stairs.

But on the contrary, if he was so worried about DNA he wouldn't have touched her at all.

And also on the other hand, he could just pick her up and cradle her close, thus destroying the scene and muddying any potential evidence that was on her body

 

[Exe Gesis]

Watch the professor! Just fast forward episode 1, i dunno about 14 or so minutes

He finishes ep1 by saying why benet all ties in with the Clintons, he'll get into it in further episodes

Theres only about 6 or so of them

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Watch the professor! Just fast forward episode 1, i dunno about 14 or so minutes

He finishes ep1 by saying why benet all ties in with the Clintons, he'll get into it in further episodes

Theres only about 6 or so of them

far out lol, ok will do

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

I'm a bit worn out tho. Was very slow trawling through all of those posts I put before took like 2 hrs going back and forth slowly.

Brain needs to rest been on this since 7am

 

[Exe Gesis]

I'm a bit worn out tho. Was very slow trawling through all of those posts I put before took like 2 hrs going back and forth slowly.

Brain needs to rest been on this since 7am

Lightweight

Its all good, just when you get your energy back up. I actually think very highly of professor. Someone whod be able to whittle the mystery away, wade thru all the confusing elements

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

The issue with the police tapping the phone call is that John clearly says "We are not talking to you".

So who was he saying this to if it wasn't Burke?

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

I just go back to the proven lies by the parents. That will lead you to the crime IMO.

They said Burke wasn't awake - he was

They said they didn't serve pineapple to anyone - why was it there with Burke and Patsy's finger prints on it?

They wouldn't lie about these harmless details if they didn't lead somewhere IMO

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

ALSO... Why were Patsy's finger prints NOT on the ransom note.

They should have been, however she apparently claimed they weren't as she bent over and read the note as it lay on the stairs.

She must have done it with gloves on, trying to protect herself, without realising it would only be logical for her to pick the note up.

So she tried too hard to hide herself, without realising it makes her look worse

 

[Exe Gesis]

The professor is very very smart.

Almost done with the 6 part series. He comes from two different directions -- the murder itself, the undeniable evidence and facts, how it was done -- and -- from a bigger picture of who everyone is, the networks they belong to, how they all tie in with pedofiles, spies, mossad, defense contracts, etc -- with the ultimate purpose of showing how those two directions connect together at the middle.

 

[Kurve]

Crime board has different rules LicoriceAllsorts If you want to go wider than the Mindshock series on this particular case and into wilder speculation, I'll have to move this out and onto the conspiracy board. I'll have another look tomorrow.

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[Exe Gesis]

Crime board has different rules LicoriceAllsorts If you want to go wider than the Mindshock series on this particular case and into wilder speculation, I'll have to move this out and onto the conspiracy board. I'll have another look tomorrow.

How about when this thread starts talking about the other blogs and the professors videos, we put that all into another thread, called JonBenet Theories and Speculations, and leave it in Crime board or move it to the CT board? Tho, the Professors videos aren't CT, they're equal to MS in terms of investigative work. That dude, the professor, is actually a renowed author and PI background. So this thread is MS and Professor....and all the other stuff LA and I posted is split off to the CT board as "JonBenet Theories and Speculations".

??

 

[Kurve]

How about when this thread starts talking about the other blogs and the professors videos, we put that all into another thread, called JonBenet Theories and Speculations, and leave it in Crime board or move it to the CT board? Tho, the Professors videos aren't CT, they're equal to MS in terms of investigative work. That dude, the professor, is actually a renowed author and PI background. So this thread is MS and Professor....and all the other stuff LA and I posted is split off to the CT board as "JonBenet Theories and Speculations".

??

Okay, we'll sort it out tomorrow when I'm a bit fresher.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Okay, we'll sort it out tomorrow when I'm a bit fresher.

"True Crime Podcasts - JonBenet Ramsey" --- dumping ground for Mindshock, Professor, and other true crime investigators on youtube.

"JonBenet Ramsey Theories and Speculations" -- all the blog, reddit, etc type stuff that's just people theorizing, but especially that have links to blogs, reddit, copy-paste jobs.

If you like the idea too.

 

[Exe Gesis]

The big picture being painted by the professor is the most realistic. As he said, he only investigated JonBenet when another investigation he was doing into political espionage pointed to John Ramsey, and then, investigating JonBenet pointed to the same political espionage. Two different things connected and pointing to each other, meeting in the middle. A particular period in time of the mid to late 1990s, what was going on in USA defense and intelligence, Libya, Mossad.

You need to watch all six episodes, it's not a ramble like MS, bouncing around evidence. The professor wades thru everything, all the contradictions and misdirections.

The summary is....mossad wanting access to hubble telescopes that point to the earth that Lockheed (via Ramsey) provide the US defense intelligence. John Deutsch the DNI had to resign on Dec 10 1996 for being a Mossad plant, national security compromised. Hilary Clinton long ties with Benjamin Netanyahu > Pat Robertson (pushing for israel policy) connected to Deutsch who is connected with a mossad guy, who was friends with Stine, who is friends with Ramsey, who works for Lockheed providing intelligence satellite imagery etc.

Not only is that whole intelligence network all a pedofile and homosexual network (to control people a la Epstein), sharing/involving their own children, how deep the control is, so that if people stray there is punishment. Or maybe the new price of admission into that old boys club, upping the stakes than previous mere homosexual shaming, around 1996-98, rise of Epstein, Hilary, etc.

Also based on whistleblowed information from Katherine Griggs from the mid 90s who was married to Col Griggs, deep in national intelligence, her own family steeped in national intelligence....about the networks of control etc

 

[Kurve]

The big picture being painted by the professor is the most realistic. As he said, he only investigated JonBenet when another investigation he was doing into political espionage pointed to John Ramsey, and then, investigating JonBenet pointed to the same political espionage. Two different things connected and pointing to each other, meeting in the middle. A particular period in time of the mid to late 1990s, what was going on in USA defense and intelligence, Libya, Mossad.

You need to watch all six episodes, it's not a ramble like MS, bouncing around evidence. The professor wades thru everything, all the contradictions and misdirections.

The summary is....mossad wanting access to hubble telescopes that point to the earth that Lockheed (via Ramsey) provide the US defense intelligence. John Deutsch the DNI had to resign on Dec 10 1996 for being a Mossad plant, national security compromised. Hilary Clinton long ties with Benjamin Netanyahu > Pat Robertson (pushing for israel policy) connected to Deutsch who is connected with a mossad guy, who was friends with Stine, who is friends with Ramsey, who works for Lockheed providing intelligence satellite imagery etc.

Not only is that whole intelligence network all a pedofile and homosexual network (to control people a la Epstein), sharing/involving their own children, how deep the control is, so that if people stray there is punishment. Or maybe the new price of admission into that old boys club, upping the stakes than previous mere homosexual shaming, around 1996-98, rise of Epstein, Hilary, etc.

Also based on whistleblowed information from Katherine Griggs from the mid 90s who was married to Col Griggs, deep in national intelligence, her own family steeped in national intelligence....about the networks of control etc

This is starting to look very QANONy

 

[Exe Gesis]

This is starting to look very QANONy

If things connect they connect tho.

You should still watch the six parts. Id love to hear your feedback.

First five videos.... look into JonBenet evidence only, very focused on what works and doesnt in terms of theories.

Last episode....about 1 hr on hilary being a liar, who shes connected with, netanyahu, etc, benghazi weapons deals etc

Then into Katherine Griggs whistleblowing story of what goes on in deep intelligence networks.

Then from 1.5 hra to 2 hr how Deutsch is comnected down the line thru to Ramsey.

Poses a theory, price for entrance, but i got from it price of punishment. ???

 

[Exe Gesis]

Episode 10 of Mindshock...the Santa Claus.....4 hrs long ugh, but MS is still a good one.....I can already see where this theory might work....someone angry with John, dresses up as Santa, no one there realizes who it is, and he is the one who later returns at night and kills JonBenet and sets it all up as tho it was an intruder but also like the Ramseys did it.....punishment to John for maybe what the Professor talked about above.

 

[Exe Gesis]

Apparently, the tape reported to be found on Benets mouth, was supposedly manufactured in North or South Carolina only in November 1996. So, hard to imagine that tape managed to get to Boulder so soon, and new stock is always placed behind old stock on shelves.

Mind you, this info comes from a journalist who eventually became friends with the Ranseys and Lou Smith.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

4 hrs, sheesh. Any links to that article about the guy with the creepy sketch perhaps?