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Not enough people realise how significantly mental health issues can impact someone physically. Depressive episodes carry an all too familiar ache throughout the body. It's ******* debilitating and the only solace is unconsciousness through sleep.
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It even affects you during sleep, I have spent the last couple of years having such terrible thoughts before going to sleep and I always wake up feeling mentally drained and foggy. On the occasions where I go to bed and have better thoughts i definitely wake up feeling refreshed.
 
MP_ said:
It even affects you during sleep, I have spent the last couple of years having such terrible thoughts before going to sleep and I always wake up feeling mentally drained and foggy. On the occasions where I go to bed and have better thoughts i definitely wake up feeling refreshed.
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Exactly. Quality of sleep is everything. Unfortunately when shit is difficult, it's more often than not diminished. Nixing alcohol has definitely helped, but only so much.

If I didn't have Seroquel to help, I'd be up all hours.
 

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undefined said:
Exactly. Quality of sleep is everything. Unfortunately when s**t is difficult, it's more often than not diminished. Nixing alcohol has definitely helped, but only so much.

If I didn't have Seroquel to help, I'd be up all hours.
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I was on that for a bit for sleep. Worked great, until it didn't. I must have become intolerant. I was taking it off label for sleep. It is an antipsychotic but that's not me. I was taking it for sleep.
 
MP_ said:
Just another week of pretending to everyone I’m normal but inside I’m dead.
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You do any sport or anything mate?
 
MP_ said:
Nope
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Don't know your personal situation, but might be something to look into. It really dragged me out of a hole. At the very least, it gives you a chance to think about something other than being miserable for a bit lol
 
Engimal v3 said:
Don't know your personal situation, but might be something to look into. It really dragged me out of a hole. At the very least, it gives you a chance to think about something other than being miserable for a bit lol
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i currently have severe anxiety. waiting to see a psych to learn to deal with that and a list of other things i need to deal with. I find socialising very difficult, once i'm comfortable its ok but new situations are very daunting. not alot of sport options in my small town.
 
On team sport- yeah everyone's different. I've always been terrible at classic team sports, and I have bad memories of being the last picked. I avoided it for years, instead sticking to swimming (something I have always been relatively good at) and the gym. Having said that, thanks to encouragement from a very close friend I met through bigfooty, I overcame my fears last year by agreeing to 'fill in' to a multisport team and enjoyed it, particularly last year. Eventually I gave it away due to a combination of my physical health and issues with a couple of nastier people on the team, but overall, it was a good experience. I found my teammates were mostly appreciative to have anyone participate, and I was harsher on myself than I was on anyone else (or that anyone else was on me). I was also surprised to learn that I wasn't the worst on the team. Overall a language or book club is more my scene albeit less required in WA where I do have a social network (unlike in Melbourne where have a few individual friends but no tribe), but I would join a team sport again in WA with the right crowd.
 
Otherwise:
-I had my first appointment with a psychologist attached to my medical clinic last Friday (stopgap before getting more longer term support in WA). It felt good to debrief and feel validated, and to my surprise, I even learnt some strategies. The key takehome for me that I added to my toolkit to use when the negative self talk occurs was would you say that to your best friend , and this has been something of a gamechanger for me. It won't work for everyone and it doesn't work for all things, but it has helped me break the vicious chain of thoughts. I have made another appointment once they reopen in January. My only regret is not reaching out sooner. Turns out this is a 'free' (not entirely, just included in the fees already paid) service and I already got more out of it than I realized, even as someone who works in healthcare and saw a psychologist in my younger years about a different issue.
-The comments about sleep and the physical impact really do resonate. I have always believed that physical and mental health are entwined and the impact on my stamina, whether I have felt rested after sleep is very real
 

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Shell said:
I've never been into team sports. For me it's probably being in the water I'm most happy.

Kinda makes sense, water usually equals summer and I get SAD so... Yeah
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MWPP said:
On team sport- yeah everyone's different. I've always been terrible at classic team sports, and I have bad memories of being the last picked. I avoided it for years, instead sticking to swimming (something I have always been relatively good at) and the gym. Having said that, thanks to encouragement from a very close friend I met through bigfooty, I overcame my fears last year by agreeing to 'fill in' to a multisport team and enjoyed it, particularly last year. Eventually I gave it away due to a combination of my physical health and issues with a couple of nastier people on the team, but overall, it was a good experience. I found my teammates were mostly appreciative to have anyone participate, and I was harsher on myself than I was on anyone else (or that anyone else was on me). I was also surprised to learn that I wasn't the worst on the team. Overall a language or book club is more my scene albeit less required in WA where I do have a social network (unlike in Melbourne where have a few individual friends but no tribe), but I would join a team sport again in WA with the right crowd.
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Won't be everyone's cup of tea - but I started training BJJ. Still an individual sport, but you're training with your friends in a group environment.
 
MWPP said:
Otherwise:
-I had my first appointment with a psychologist attached to my medical clinic last Friday (stopgap before getting more longer term support in WA). It felt good to debrief and feel validated, and to my surprise, I even learnt some strategies. The key takehome for me that I added to my toolkit to use when the negative self talk occurs was would you say that to your best friend , and this has been something of a gamechanger for me. It won't work for everyone and it doesn't work for all things, but it has helped me break the vicious chain of thoughts. I have made another appointment once they reopen in January. My only regret is not reaching out sooner. Turns out this is a 'free' (not entirely, just included in the fees already paid) service and I already got more out of it than I realized, even as someone who works in healthcare and saw a psychologist in my younger years about a different issue.
-The comments about sleep and the physical impact really do resonate. I have always believed that physical and mental health are entwined and the impact on my stamina, whether I have felt rested after sleep is very real
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Hah yes that bit about 'would you say that to your best friend' is such a good thing to think about and remind yourself! You wouldn't want them to put themselves down, go through pain without getting help ... and on and on.
 
Fossie 32 said:
Hah yes that bit about 'would you say that to your best friend' is such a good thing to think about and remind yourself! You wouldn't want them to put themselves down, go through pain without getting help ... and on and on.
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Only works if you have a best friend
 
MP_ said:
Only works if you have a best friend
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Yeah I don't really have anyone I would call a best friend either, though I have people who are good friends and we care about each other.
I guess the concept still applies though, it could be 'what would you want for someone you care about...' ??
 
Shell said:
I've never been into team sports. For me it's probably being in the water I'm most happy.

Kinda makes sense, water usually equals summer and I get SAD so... Yeah
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There's
Always Individual in team sport at different times .

Where you feel alone and the pressure on you .

I kinda liked it ..
 
rocker_oz33 said:
There's
Always Individual in team sport at different times .

Where you feel alone and the pressure on you .

I kinda liked it ..
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Even just walking or hiking can be a great help. Especially if you can get out of the hustle and bustle and find a nice trail to walk either with someone or just by yourself. I find hiking quite good, very good when you have to walk hills etc.

Cycling is also a good one, but not in urban areas. Find somewhere where there is no traffic etc. Mountain biking is always good, I'm sure every city has some trails nearby.
 
Electronic_Renaissance said:
Even just walking or hiking can be a great help. Especially if you can get out of the hustle and bustle and find a nice trail to walk either with someone or just by yourself. I find hiking quite good, very good when you have to walk hills etc.

Cycling is also a good one, but not in urban areas. Find somewhere where there is no traffic etc. Mountain biking is always good, I'm sure every city has some trails nearby.
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I spend 11 days in Tassie.
Fuuuu loved it .
Cradle mountain.. etc.

Love hiking
 
I think just getting away from it all is the thing. I know you can't REALLY just leave things, but a break is needed.

Get away from the people you are around 24/7. Go by yourself or a friend, or a walking/cycling club. Somewhere you never normally go. You are then taking your mind off things and concentrating on somthing different like what path (literally) is ahead rather than thinking of what's wrong with your life.
 
Electronic_Renaissance said:
I think just getting away from it all is the thing. I know you can't REALLY just leave things, but a break is needed.

Get away from the people you are around 24/7. Go by yourself or a friend, or a walking/cycling club. Somewhere you never normally go. You are then taking your mind off things and concentrating on somthing different like what path (literally) is ahead rather than thinking of what's wrong with your life.
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I went on my own and fuuuu loved it .
 
How's everyone going at Christmas? I enjoy the season but I know a lot of people struggle.

My big one is New Year. I hate it. People celebrate it but it is my worst time of year. I don't know if depressed is the word but I feel melancholic. Like "that's another year wasted", especially if nothing much has happened during the year. As I've gotten older I've felt the same on my birthday. I think I treat myself a bit harshly but I'm a bit of a perfectionist.
 

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