Food/Supplements Diet Diet, Supplements and Enhancers - Part III

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weekend at bernies said:
Hey Guys,
I am after some of your expertise. I joined up at the gym bout year and a half ago now, i have lost 30kg to date.. I used to do all cardio, no weights.. About 3 months ago now i really started to get into the weights. I was wondering if there were any supplements you would suggest to really help try and put on some muscle. I am worried that i will take the wrong thing and start to put the weight back on, as i am still trying to lose weight/fat.

I have only tried the oxyelite before and thinking of getting some more, now that it is back on the shelf. Could you guys reccomend anything to take with it or something else completely??
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I've found whey protein isolate from Bulk Nutrients very good and a few others on here use there products and have good things to say about them.

But lysp is right it all comes down to diet, protein powders, fat burners etc are all supplements to your diet.

Google Harris Benedict formula and figure out your BMR, and this will help you figure out how many calories you burn during the day and then how much food you need to eat. I would suggest to eat at maintenance calories for a couple of weeks, then increase by only 200-250 calories. As you are someone who has worked very hard to lose weight, you don't want to be eating to many calories and gain the fat back with muscle. Some fat again is inevitable with increase of muscle but if you eat slightly above maintenance and gain lean muscle a bit slower than (say someone eating at 750 calorie surplus) there will be less fat gain. But regardless of your approach you need to figure out your BMR.

Then look at 40/40/20 split between Protein/Carbs/Fat.
 
Is it just me, or does Charters look in pretty shit shape considering he has had access to the best PEDS and information money can buy?

Not to toot my own horn,but at a year older than him and only been training a couple of years drug free I thinking that he is not looking that flash. His chest and sternum look weird as.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...mentary-benefits/story-fni0fit3-1226664122809

Plus he has the added bonus of:


What the future holds for Charter isn't clear. On the home front, the father of three plans to have another child. He and his wife have previously conceived using IVF. (His steroid use had rendered him temporarily sterile and had led to a heart attack before he'd turned 40.)
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evo said:
Is it just me, or does Charters look in pretty shit shape considering he has had access to the best PEDS and information money can buy?

Not to toot my own horn,but at a year older than him and only been training a couple of years drug free I thinking that he is not looking that flash. His chest and sternum look weird as.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...mentary-benefits/story-fni0fit3-1226664122809

Plus he has the added bonus of:
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Looks like someone put a chewbaca toy in the microwave
 

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Bazzar said:
How do people here mix their BCAA powder, because they are not water soluble its always a pain in the bum. (Because of fasting i dont want milk)
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Bulk nutrient BCAA are (pretty much) soluble in a ratio of 10g powder per 200ml water. I just put mine in a protein shaker and as the others have said give it a shake before I drink.
 
showdownhero said:
Bulk nutrient BCAA are (pretty much) soluble in a ratio of 10g powder per 200ml water. I just put mine in a protein shaker and as the others have said give it a shake before I drink.
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I use Bulk Nutrients BCAA's as well, but find if i over shake them in a shaker cup the froth up a bit so when mixing them i just roll the shaker cup over a couple of times and does the trick.
 
Who actually takes their BCAA intra work out with them and scoops a bit into a glass and twirls it while you workout?? lol.. Just put a few scoops in a shaker, fill with water and shake before you sip, simple.

Testosterone boosters are the key for gains, we all know this, whether you do it via pinning it artificially ( which is the only real way to add mass if you are not genetically gifted) or naturally through supplements.

It's always good to seek advice from good supplement stores, I would recommend ASN in Richmond, they will help you with supplementation or A1 supplements in Preston although I think they have shut down and another supplement joint has taken over which I'm yet to visit.

Good luck lads! Benching sets of 120kgs (no mustard) over here and going strong! bulk before cutting for summer.

Peace
 
tige19 said:
It's always good to seek advice from good supplement stores, I would recommend ASN in Richmond, they will help you with supplementation or A1 supplements in Preston although I think they have shut down and another supplement joint has taken over which I'm yet to visit.
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Supplement stores whole purpose is to sell you 101 supplements that may offer 0.001% benefit if at all. It's in their interest to sell you everything under the sun.

I'd be going for an unbiased view.
 
evo said:
bulk nutrients BCCAs is the single worst tasting thing that has every passed my lips. I will be one happy man when I've finished the bag.
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Try tasting pramiracetam then lol

Diluted 75mg in half a glass of water and even a single drop on your tongue has you pulling faces for about 30 seconds until it goes away.
 

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evo said:
bulk nutrients BCCAs is the single worst tasting thing that has every passed my lips. I will be one happy man when I've finished the bag.
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The orange flavoured recovery BCAA taste great, but wouldn't be helpful for your fasting.


showdownhero said:
Mix in onee of their lime flavoring sachets :thumbsu:
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I've used the raspberry sachets but seem to have to use more than they suggest and still doesn't override the taste of natural BCAA's.

I find Bulk Nutrients Pre Workout lime flavour is pretty ordinary, i've been meaning to email them and see if they can do a orange flavoured pre work out.
 
evo said:
bulk nutrients BCCAs is the single worst tasting thing that has every passed my lips. I will be one happy man when I've finished the bag.
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My first Bulk nutrients order arrived yesterday so this morning was my first time to try BCAA's just before starting my fasted workout. Foul tasting stuff, but I don't like milk so I'm used to holding my nose closed and chugging down any shake, followed by a drink of plain water rinse out. Even pre-workouts I have in water they all seem to taste foul to me :(
 
Andre said:
My first Bulk nutrients order arrived yesterday so this morning was my first time to try BCAA's just before starting my fasted workout. Foul tasting stuff, but I don't like milk so I'm used to holding my nose closed and chugging down any shake, followed by a drink of plain water rinse out. Even pre-workouts I have in water they all seem to taste foul to me :(
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I love flavoured pre workouts. I started throwing the BCAAs in them so it was an ok compromise.
 
My point is the main active ingredient is caffeine.

So taking a pwo for a cardio activity (ie. footy) without the cardio, i'm wondering whether it's worth taking anything at all?

PWO basically have:

Beta Alanine - may have some benefit for cardio
Citrulline Malate - quick check show that some studies have shown it might actually reduce performance and cause fatigue earlier
Creatine - should be taking this with weight training anyway, not needed pre-cardio
Leucine - may help recovery, but not actual performance
Caffeine - you don't want this
DMAA - banned for tested athletes and now banned in general, so most won't have this anymore
 
lysp said:
My point is the main active ingredient is caffeine.

So taking a pwo for a cardio activity (ie. footy) without the cardio, i'm wondering whether it's worth taking anything at all?

PWO basically have:

Beta Alanine - may have some benefit for cardio
Citrulline Malate - quick check show that some studies have shown it might actually reduce performance and cause fatigue earlier
Creatine - should be taking this with weight training anyway, not needed pre-cardio
Leucine - may help recovery, but not actual performance
Caffeine - you don't want this
DMAA - banned for tested athletes and now banned in general, so most won't have this anymore
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Cardio comes from training

Ive just been starting slowly so im trying things so i can get into the game im a midfielder who rotates forward but due to lack of small forwards playing forward then rotating midfield.

Basically looking for something for the first 10 mins of a game thats just gonna make me feel good
 

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