Food/Supplements Diet Diet, Supplements and Enhancers - Part III

[LanceRomance]

Made this ingredient table to help me make the decision, No Xplode looking miles head of the competition at this point

what makes it better? I'm new to the preworkout thing.

 

[tige19]

what makes it better? I'm new to the preworkout thing.

It doesn't do a hell of a lot for me.. Tastes great though. I'm used to old school craze, what's on the market now is fairly crappy

 

[Infra Ted]

What supplements do you guys use? I'm new to training and am having creatine before workout, BCAA's throughout the day, and protein shakes with glutamine.

Staying away from pre-workouts cause have heard bad things. Am just looking to gain size so no need for fat burners or anything.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Can anyone tell me if acetyl carnitine is in any way decent, or is it completely useless?

Cheers.

 

[showdownhero]

what makes it better? I'm new to the preworkout thing.

Creatine, AAKG, Beta Alanine and Caffeine are scientifically proven to improve performance. You can actually buy all 3 ingredients fairly cheaply online (through bulknutrients and chemistwarehouse for no doz) but I find the branded supplements work just a little bit better.

What supplements do you guys use? I'm new to training and am having creatine before workout, BCAA's throughout the day, and protein shakes with glutamine.

Staying away from pre-workouts cause have heard bad things. Am just looking to gain size so no need for fat burners or anything.

Creatine can be taken at any time doesn't need to be pre workout, pre workouts are great for improving your training. The dangers are people going to far, the best supplements for pre workout are beta alanine and AAKG which can both be bought from bulk nutrients very cheaply.

 

[ablett]

Can anyone tell me if acetyl carnitine is in any way decent, or is it completely useless?

Cheers.

Good for mental clarity but no good as fat burner as its marketed to be.

 

[raskolnikov]

Anyone had experience with CortRX?

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Good for mental clarity but no good as fat burner as its marketed to be.

OK, cheers mate.

 

[Cotchin 9]

Magnesium no good?

 

[Bazzar]

Magnesium no good?

that was my initial thought. must be wrong.

 

[Mofra]

that was my initial thought. must be wrong.

Might depend on the person as well.

Probiotics is a controversial area - much literature suggests they are very efficient if tailored for the recipient, but can do nothing for others if they are taking generic off the shelf products (depending on existing diet).

 

[showdownhero]

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891584916000307

Combining products that are banned with products that don't work is stupid. Products get banned because they work...

 

[estibador]

Combining products that are banned with products that don't work is stupid. Products get banned because they work...

It's obviously aimed at people who want to stay 'legal' though.

Otherwise there's a shit-ton of dodgy things you could add to the performance enhancing side.

 

[LanceRomance]

couldnt help but notice that GNC has gone in to administration

 

[showdownhero]

couldnt help but notice that GNC has gone in to administration

good, bloody con artists

 

[showdownhero]

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891584916000307

Also I was under the impression that L-Arginine or AAKG did have some scientific data to support it's use.

http://www.exrx.net/Nutrition/Supplements/NitricOxide.html

There appears to be a few studies that linked AAKG with improved performance on the exrx page

 

[Mofra]

couldnt help but notice that GNC has gone in to administration

Selling overpriced brand-name supplements that you can buy cheaper on the net isn't a fool-proof business model?

Shocked to be sitting here

 

[Cotchin 9]

Anyone tried egg white powder as an alternative to whey?

 

[Cotchin 9]

Sounds okay to me Bazzar

 

[Bazzar]

Sounds okay to me Bazzar

You often see egg white protein in keto and LC recipes

 

[raskolnikov]

Isn't hemp illegal to eat in Australia?

 

[Nickos66]

It's illegal to sell as a product for consumption, manufacturers are forced to place a sticker on each product stressing that it should not be consumed.. Archaic laws.

 

[Bazzar]

Isn't hemp illegal to eat in Australia?

Hemp protein is legal in Australia.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Just found a tub of oxyeite pro (super thermo) powder in the cupboard. I remember a while back hearing some drama re. FDA recall etc., but from memory this was relating to just one of their 3 different formulas. The one I've got contains yohimbe and aegeline...just wondering if you guys reckon it'd be safe to take? If the version I have was the one in question, & even if so, was the whole issue a bit overblown?
Any feedback would be much appreciated, cheers.

 

[LanceRomance]

Just found a tub of oxyeite pro (super thermo) powder in the cupboard. I remember a while back hearing some drama re. FDA recall etc., but from memory this was relating to just one of their 3 different formulas. The one I've got contains yohimbe and aegeline...just wondering if you guys reckon it'd be safe to take? If the version I have was the one in question, & even if so, was the whole issue a bit overblown?
Any feedback would be much appreciated, cheers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/aegeline-oxyelite-pro_n_4683990.html

Doctors say they are now almost certain that aegeline, a substance naturally found in bael trees, was the harmful ingredient in the weight-loss supplement OxyElite Pro that led to more than 50 cases of liver damage last year, including 2 transplants and one death.

The majority of the liver damage cases occurred in Hawaii, and leaders at the Queen's Medical Center's Liver Center in Honolulu now believe that genetics played a role since most of the victims were of Pacific Island ancestry and almost all were obese.