soccer players need lots of energy to roll around on the ground when it looks like there might be slight contact
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So a game held 60 years ago proves it?Simple answer is no. This was proven in 1964 when Jack Dyer, the then record games holder for the Richmond Tigers in the AFL. And let’s imagine he convenes the cream of the VFL’s players of the 1960s. Ted Whitten, the iconic captain coach of the Footscray Bulldogs. Australian Rules football’s biggest name, Ronald Dale Barassi. Reigning VFL Brownlow Medallist, Gordon Collis took on a bunch of semi-professional soccer players at their own game and got thrashed.
heres the thread, podcast and photo's:
https://sport.optus.com.au/news/football-belongs/os21234/football-belongs-clash-of-cultures
Simple answer is no. This was proven in 1964 when Jack Dyer, the then record games holder for the Richmond Tigers in the AFL. And let’s imagine he convenes the cream of the VFL’s players of the 1960s. Ted Whitten, the iconic captain coach of the Footscray Bulldogs. Australian Rules football’s biggest name, Ronald Dale Barassi. Reigning VFL Brownlow Medallist, Gordon Collis took on a bunch of semi-professional soccer players at their own game and got thrashed.
heres the thread, podcast and photo's:
https://sport.optus.com.au/news/football-belongs/os21234/football-belongs-clash-of-cultures
Simple answer is no. This was proven in 1964 when Jack Dyer, the then record games holder for the Richmond Tigers in the AFL. And let’s imagine he convenes the cream of the VFL’s players of the 1960s. Ted Whitten, the iconic captain coach of the Footscray Bulldogs. Australian Rules football’s biggest name, Ronald Dale Barassi. Reigning VFL Brownlow Medallist, Gordon Collis took on a bunch of semi-professional soccer players at their own game and got thrashed.
heres the thread, podcast and photo's:
https://sport.optus.com.au/news/football-belongs/os21234/football-belongs-clash-of-cultures
AFL or VFL? AFL is a league and it's only been that since 1990.Simple answer is no. This was proven in 1964 when Jack Dyer, the then record games holder for the Richmond Tigers in the AFL. And let’s imagine he convenes the cream of the VFL’s players of the 1960s. Ted Whitten, the iconic captain coach of the Footscray Bulldogs. Australian Rules football’s biggest name, Ronald Dale Barassi. Reigning VFL Brownlow Medallist, Gordon Collis took on a bunch of semi-professional soccer players at their own game and got thrashed.
heres the thread, podcast and photo's:
https://sport.optus.com.au/news/football-belongs/os21234/football-belongs-clash-of-cultures
There was one in 2000s Billy Slater made it piss 2 years in a row,was up against Deledio/Ling AFL and a couple of A league hacks amongst others.I remember channel 7 maybe running a sports Olympics years ago(80s early) and afl won most fitness tests.
Rexona greatest athlete. Loved that shit.There was one in 2000s Billy Slater made it piss 2 years in a row,was up against Deledio/Ling AFL and a couple of A league hacks amongst others.
Was a good show.I was impressed how fit the V8 guys were.Rexona greatest athlete. Loved that shit.
The only issue with that show in this context is alot of the challenges were sport specific, not fitness specific.
End of the day
1.NRL
2.AFL
Soccer maybe top five.
Panthers got these guys on board late 2019.
Runner up 2020 won the next 4 flags.
The 24hr boot camp,take note Crows.
End of the day
1.NRL
2.AFL
Soccer maybe top five.
Panthers got these guys on board late 2019.
Runner up 2020 won the next 4 flags.
The 24hr boot camp,take note Crows.
Depends on position. A central midfielder in soccer would be more aerobically fit than a FF in footyI’ve got a mate that works in sports science and has worked across the AFL/NRL and I’ve had this convo with him before.
I think if you’re talking overall fitness (encompassing cardio endurance, muscle endurance, speed, power, agility, flexibility, co-ordination).
AFL is a fair way ahead overall in terms of the Aussie codes. Now AFL probably doesn’t win any singular facet of it (possibly cardio endurance, depending on the player) but they’re going to be VERY close to the best across all of them. Whereas soccer players are gonna be way down on power, muscle endurance etc. and League way down on endurance stuff.
"Physical Endurance" is pretty broad. If its just running power id think the AFLs elite are going to be very close if not ahead of Soccers best. Borth are going to leave NRL is the dust.
Im not even sure the first line is accurate from this as a source.Depends on position. A central midfielder in soccer would be more aerobically fit than a FF in footy
I play soccer & I'd back most footy players to beat most soccer players at most 'physical challenges' as a general rule though
A central midfielder in soccer isn't really stopping whereas a FF still has the ball down the other end for half the match. Completely different sports/body types/ tactics but I'd take a central midfielder to outrun Hogan easily tbhIm not even sure the first line is accurate from this as a source.
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Some Full Forwards have absolutely absurd running capacity (Jesse Hogan, Brody Mihocek). We dont really have the old school FF very much anymore and to be fair i dont follow or watch soccer so i have zero experience there but these metrics sort of indicate that the elite runners from both sports head to head is gonna be very very close but the bottom end runners AFL is going to street them.
Its all bit dependent too. AFL players do a lot more burst running and tend to have less low intensity running in a match. Matches are also longer overall and shorter in between breaks so the specific distinction is hard to make. Are you valuing how long someone can run a half marathon or are you valuing a yo yo test?
Except no FF just sits in the goalsquare anymore. Absolute worst case theyre up around CHB and probably pushing in if there are bad numbers.A central midfielder in soccer isn't really stopping whereas a FF still has the ball down the other end for half the match. Completely different sports/body types/ tactics but I'd take a central midfielder to outrun Hogan easily tbh
Regardless, I'd back most footy players over most soccer players otherwise. Probably at all senior levels too, amateur D grade to professionals, i think footy would win most fitness/physical challenges over soccer
Except no FF just sits in the goalsquare anymore. Absolute worst case theyre up around CHB and probably pushing in if there are bad numbers.
Its hard to find stats but if you check AFL telstra tracker it has some 2020 stats and in a few examples KP players are in there. Matt Taberner has a couple 13km games, Weitering has an 11 as does Jesse Hogan.
If you compare that to those tables in the other link soccer mids were covering 10.6kms and the average across all positions was 10kms total.
Im sure the absolutely elite mids and wingers in soccer would outrun Hogan and probably most AFL players but i suspect if you take the average across all the top flight teams in Europe and South America. Midfielder to Midfielder AFL is winning and as an average across all positions (excluding goalies) that difference would be even bigger.
Definitely IMONick Reiwoldt would have been a monster on the Telstra Tracker. Bloke was an aerobic animal for a big guy. True FF doesn't really exist as such. Most of the 'FF' guys would be a CHF under the traditional positions.
Some of the AFL wingmen are pretty high level aerobic runners, Kane Cornes has run a pretty slick 2:34 for the Marathon, Tom Scully was probably even better as a pure runner.
Not sure many team sports would have higher level endurance runners. That's probably the key thing that distinguishes AFL from most other ball sports. The big US ones are very power oriented, Soccer has good endurance and probably a higher bar skill-wise at the elite level.
I think thats a bit dependent on what you consider to be more skillful.Nick Reiwoldt would have been a monster on the Telstra Tracker. Bloke was an aerobic animal for a big guy. True FF doesn't really exist as such. Most of the 'FF' guys would be a CHF under the traditional positions.
Some of the AFL wingmen are pretty high level aerobic runners, Kane Cornes has run a pretty slick 2:34 for the Marathon, Tom Scully was probably even better as a pure runner.
Not sure many team sports would have higher level endurance runners. That's probably the key thing that distinguishes AFL from most other ball sports. The big US ones are very power oriented, Soccer has good endurance and probably a higher bar skill-wise at the elite level.
There was one in 2000s Billy Slater made it piss 2 years in a row,was up against Deledio/Ling AFL and a couple of A league hacks amongst others.