Scape Goat Don’t like the game? Blame Richmond’s pressure

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What a load of tripe. Bring back Paul Roos. - mastermind of the aesthetically pleasing 36 man rugby scrum.

Bring back Terry Basketball Wallace, the incredible coach who almost took Richmond to a conference win.

Maybe the game would look better if coaches worked on trying to beat it instead of replicate it? Clarkson wasn’t such a great coach because he photocopied blueprints.
 
Lol funny article is funny, one minute he’s blaming us the next he’s saying we’re a joyful team who is a pleasure to watch. Make up your minds media! Roflmao

To be fair that website publishes a lot of shite. Which is pretty sad because generally when you get a bunch of amateurs who are passionate about a topic they write better than the flogs working in big media.
 
All this frenzy discussion about the state of the game is driven by disgruntled media supporters. The Herald Sun is driving this hysterical discussion demanding a change to the game. Many opposition supporters are jumping on the bandwagon because they are looking for any reason to demand change so their team can be more successful. If Essendon and Carlton were playing better then we wouldn't be hearing any of this but because Richmond are destroying other teams and found a game plan that equates to success that they can't mimic - there is outrage.

I'm looking forward to when they reduce interchange numbers and we continue to dominate (because of the amount of multi dimensional players we have in our squad that can rotate through the midfield). I'm looking forward to seeing them realise that the change has made no difference to their teams success and seeing the outrage deepen. I'm looking forward to witnessing the despair when they realise the change actual helped increase the Tigers dominance.

Similarly if they bring in zones, we already retain 6 players in our backline and forwardline on most occasions so this would actually help us too.

What the people calling for change are praying for is a way that their teams can succeed. These ideas won't reduce pressure and won't reduce the Tigers dominance. It'll only increase the length of our dynasty so bring it on I say!
 
What a load of tripe. Bring back Paul Roos. - mastermind of the aesthetically pleasing 36 man rugby scrum.

Bring back Terry Basketball Wallace, the incredible coach who almost took Richmond to a conference win.

Maybe the game would look better if coaches worked on trying to beat it instead of replicate it? Clarkson wasn’t such a great coach because he photocopied blueprints.

YOU'VE hit on a point ... the game has been a largely ugly spectacle for more than a decade and it won't recover as the stakes have never been higher.
Clubs - in most cases - won't persist with coaches who continually lose, so winning by any means necessary is key. If that means Wallace basketball, or (insert coach) rugby scrums, they will do it. No one coach, or team owes the game anything, it's about winning.
The Swans often won ugly and I heard all the screams and cries, even on this board, ditto for the Saints and Dockers during Lyon's winning-reigns at those clubs. The Bulldogs won the flag with not so pretty football too and now we are coming into question. As a spectacle, Richmond v Melbourne was deplorable for three quarters, but it was an arm-wrestle and the better team got on top and played some good football. So what.
Said this to a mate yesterday, who supports Geelong ... the fuss about Richmond etc. is nothing new ... it's just a new team who's winning and that upsets another new bunch of fans who are used to success. I a few years' time when we fall away and Gold Coast, Fremantle, whoever is inventing new ways to drag the game down and win often, Tiger supporters will be back on the wagon calling for something to be done about the state of the game.
The sooner people move on and accept the game won't be the same as the 60s, the same as the 70s or 80s, or perhaps its greatest era in the 90s and never will be, the better.
I've watched a fair bit of football this year and nearly every game has been poor ... but it's not one particular thing, but a combination.
 
All this frenzy discussion about the state of the game is driven by disgruntled media supporters. The Herald Sun is driving this hysterical discussion demanding a change to the game. Many opposition supporters are jumping on the bandwagon because they are looking for any reason to demand change so their team can be more successful. If Essendon and Carlton were playing better then we wouldn't be hearing any of this but because Richmond are destroying other teams and found a game plan that equates to success that they can't mimic - there is outrage.

I'm looking forward to when they reduce interchange numbers and we continue to dominate (because of the amount of multi dimensional players we have in our squad that can rotate through the midfield). I'm looking forward to seeing them realise that the change has made no difference to their teams success and seeing the outrage deepen. I'm looking forward to witnessing the despair when they realise the change actual helped increase the Tigers dominance.

Similarly if they bring in zones, we already retain 6 players in our backline and forwardline on most occasions so this would actually help us too.

What the people calling for change are praying for is a way that their teams can succeed. These ideas won't reduce pressure and won't reduce the Tigers dominance. It'll only increase the length of our dynasty so bring it on I say!


It's not a Richmond thing.
The debate over teams allegedly winning ugly has gone on for a decade or more.
 
YOU'VE hit on a point ... the game has been a largely ugly spectacle for more than a decade and it won't recover as the stakes have never been higher.
Clubs - in most cases - won't persist with coaches who continually lose, so winning by any means necessary is key. If that means Wallace basketball, or (insert coach) rugby scrums, they will do it. No one coach, or team owes the game anything, it's about winning.
The Swans often won ugly and I heard all the screams and cries, even on this board, ditto for the Saints and Dockers during Lyon's winning-reigns at those clubs. The Bulldogs won the flag with not so pretty football too and now we are coming into question. As a spectacle, Richmond v Melbourne was deplorable for three quarters, but it was an arm-wrestle and the better team got on top and played some good football. So what.
Said this to a mate yesterday, who supports Geelong ... the fuss about Richmond etc. is nothing new ... it's just a new team who's winning and that upsets another new bunch of fans who are used to success. I a few years' time when we fall away and Gold Coast, Fremantle, whoever is inventing new ways to drag the game down and win often, Tiger supporters will be back on the wagon calling for something to be done about the state of the game.
The sooner people move on and accept the game won't be the same as the 60s, the same as the 70s or 80s, or perhaps its greatest era in the 90s and never will be, the better.
I've watched a fair bit of football this year and nearly every game has been poor ... but it's not one particular thing, but a combination.

Yep and the fact that the new conversation is a club that has such a huge backing has made all issues such as this snowball out of control. When the dogs won it was an issue raised but didn’t spiral out of control as much as this because there wasn’t as much black and white (yellow and black) combativeness from either side.

Now it’s a couple of hundred thousand supporters against the rest of the footy world - rather than a split of neutrals who enjoyed the story and weren’t vehemently opposed to the winners.
 
All this frenzy discussion about the state of the game is driven by disgruntled media supporters. The Herald Sun is driving this hysterical discussion demanding a change to the game. Many opposition supporters are jumping on the bandwagon because they are looking for any reason to demand change so their team can be more successful. If Essendon and Carlton were playing better then we wouldn't be hearing any of this but because Richmond are destroying other teams and found a game plan that equates to success that they can't mimic - there is outrage.

I'm looking forward to when they reduce interchange numbers and we continue to dominate (because of the amount of multi dimensional players we have in our squad that can rotate through the midfield). I'm looking forward to seeing them realise that the change has made no difference to their teams success and seeing the outrage deepen. I'm looking forward to witnessing the despair when they realise the change actual helped increase the Tigers dominance.

Similarly if they bring in zones, we already retain 6 players in our backline and forwardline on most occasions so this would actually help us too.

What the people calling for change are praying for is a way that their teams can succeed. These ideas won't reduce pressure and won't reduce the Tigers dominance. It'll only increase the length of our dynasty so bring it on I say!
This is my thought as well. Instead of trying to replicate what we do, which we’re the only team that actually does it well, find a way to beat it that works for your team.

Congestion is also not our fault, the only way we have congestion around the ball is when we allow the opposition to suck us in. More often than not we keep players behind the ball way out of a stoppage and we always have midfielders waiting outside the stoppage for the ball to spill.

Opposition teams seem to get all their players in a stoppage to clog it up so we don’t get it on the outside and kick a goal out the back. How many turnovers have been caused by opposition clogging up our forward line then bombing it into the waiting arms of our defenders who are, shock horror, out of our forward 50 on their own?
 
Gee I wish this great man was still around to sort this salty sooking out:
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This is really starting to give me the shits!
Bunch of ****ing sooky la la's in the industry always looking to prod, analyse, change and tinker whenever something does not suit them.
Personally I hate slingshot keepings off footy which is possibly what the "aesthetically pleasing" brand people are speaking of is.
AFLX was bagged to the hilt but seems to be the style some want now.

Physical contests, fought and then lost or won are what have defined our game for over 100 years and Richmond should be lauded that we have mastered a style that is tough, physical, committed and ultimately successful.

We really should turn all of this negative crap around to inspire further - back to the early 70's when we were feared and hated for being just too ****ing good and bloody arrogant about it too.

Tigers versus the rest......
 
This is really starting to give me the shits!
Bunch of ******* sooky la la's in the industry always looking to prod, analyse, change and tinker whenever something does not suit them.
Personally I hate slingshot keepings off footy which is possibly what the "aesthetically pleasing" brand people are speaking of is.
AFLX was bagged to the hilt but seems to be the style some want now.

Physical contests, fought and then lost or won are what have defined our game for over 100 years and Richmond should be lauded that we have mastered a style that is tough, physical, committed and ultimately successful.

We really should turn all of this negative crap around to inspire further - back to the early 70's when we were feared and hated for being just too ******* good and bloody arrogant about it too.

Tigers versus the rest......
It's Richmond against the world once again and I f**king love it.
 
Physical contests, fought and then lost or won are what have defined our game for over 100 years and Richmond should be lauded that we have mastered a style that is tough, physical, committed and ultimately successful.

As I suggested ... we won't be on top forever.
A team or two will eventually surpass us and with something that likely will be even less appealing on the eye .. that's just how it is.
People just need to concede it is what it is and rise above it.
 
As I suggested ... we won't be on top forever.
A team or two will eventually surpass us and with something that likely will be even less appealing on the eye .. that's just how it is.
People just need to concede it is what it is and rise above it.
That's just the thing - the worm will turn and our ability to keep playing like this will fall away or our good run with injury will stop or most likely, a few other teams will sort something out and it will change.

That's why the sudden hysteria at the moment bothers me.

Talk about the poor form of the Dogs, Blues and Saints etc but why are we being brought into the argument?
 
This is really starting to give me the shits!
Bunch of ******* sooky la la's in the industry always looking to prod, analyse, change and tinker whenever something does not suit them.
Personally I hate slingshot keepings off footy which is possibly what the "aesthetically pleasing" brand people are speaking of is.
AFLX was bagged to the hilt but seems to be the style some want now.

Physical contests, fought and then lost or won are what have defined our game for over 100 years and Richmond should be lauded that we have mastered a style that is tough, physical, committed and ultimately successful.

We really should turn all of this negative crap around to inspire further - back to the early 70's when we were feared and hated for being just too ******* good and bloody arrogant about it too.

Tigers versus the rest......
I've got this bit covered lads :D
 
Cyril Rioli, universally adored by the media, plays the game like we do.
We just have 3/4 of our team who've adopted that style of play.

Blame Cyril.
God, for his sake and sanity I hope Bruce does not loiter here....
 

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