Drop Stevens

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I don't condone the abuse that goes on when people make any post that others disagree with. It was not a trolling thread, it was merely a reflection on current form.

For mine, if Steven's injury is causing his lapse in form (which is obvious and painful to watch ATM), then we should give him some time off. I disagree that his recent form has still been better than many others in the team. He is struggling and it shows. Are we doing him any favours by playing him under duress until he can get an operation at the end of the year? We'd be better off letting him have the op now and have more recovery time and an uninterrupted preseason. If his current form is anything to go on, he is not offering too much that we need to keep him onfield.

Maybe he is still feeling the effects of the gastro and is a tad ill rather than injured and will be back firing against the Eagles.

 

[sinepari]

Over the past few weeks Stevens has played a big role at carlton in the midfield but still needs to improve the last 4 games in a row Stevens tends to put his team under pressure, which result in the opposition scoring. Lats week against Brisbane he got taken of the ground twice, which Pagan had maade a good call to do that. I think stevens should be drop in the bullanits team to show him how it feels to be out of the carlton senior team.

Do you think that the eagles should drop cousins and judd??

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Do you think that the eagles should drop cousins and judd??

Not that I think Stevens should be dropped but how is this relevant?

Cousins and Judd are in good form in a side that has lost one game for the year. If they were in a side on the bottom of the ladder and had looked lethargic and out of form for a couple of weeks when the team needed them most, perhaps the microscope might be on them too.

 

[celtic_pride]

Stevens may be struggling a tad (that injury he's carrying can't help) but I don't see the purpose in dropping him.

 

[Allen's Blues]

This thread is somewhat stupid, the fact is Stevens deserves his place in the 22 no matter how bad he is playing

 

[gadj1976]

This thread is somewhat stupid, the fact is Stevens deserves his place in the 22 no matter how bad he is playing

why? Cos we're paying him so much money that it'd look bad?

 

[bluesforever]

no, because he averages the most possessions in our side and is USUALLY a great user of the ball

 

[gadj1976]

no, because he averages the most possessions in our side and is USUALLY a great user of the ball

but most people admit that he's not playing well. Do you keep players in the side that aren't playing well or drop them to find form. We did it with Scotland. Are all players not equal?

 

[bluesforever]

but most people admit that he's not playing well. Do you keep players in the side that aren't playing well or drop them to find form. We did it with Scotland. Are all players not equal?

Ofcourse they are, Stevo isn't doin as bad as Scotland was, and Stevens is a proven midfielder that is more valuable than Scotland. Stevens has been down for 2 or 3 weeks tops, not enough to drop a star midfielder.

 

[bibi01]

but most people admit that he's not playing well. Do you keep players in the side that aren't playing well or drop them to find form. We did it with Scotland. Are all players not equal?

the question that needs to be asked

is stevens playing at 70% worth more to the team than wiggins at 100%

 

[gadj1976]

the question that needs to be asked

is stevens playing at 70% worth more to the team than wiggins at 100%

Exactly. If someone isn't playing well, no matter where they play, or money they're on (or reputation) then they need to be spelled. If you don't you set a precedent by dropping your good players who don't play well then the ordinary players feel like they are a lower class citizen, thereby segregating the team's "good" and "not so good" players.

 

[Snoozer]

but most people admit that he's not playing well. Do you keep players in the side that aren't playing well or drop them to find form. We did it with Scotland. Are all players not equal?

No not all players are equal.

So back in the glory days you wouldn't hesitate to drop S Kernahan after a couple of ordinary games, and you'd do the same with a fringe player ie Ron DeIulio after a couple of poor games. Gimme a break.

If you think AFL footballers should be treated all the same, then you are a fool of the highest order.

 

[gadj1976]

No not all players are equal.

So back in the glory days you wouldn't hesitate to drop S Kernahan after a couple of ordinary games, and you'd do the same with a fringe player ie Ron DeIulio after a couple of poor games. Gimme a break.

If you think AFL footballers should be treated all the same, then you are a fool of the highest order.

If someone breaks a team rule, then they're treated equally. Team rules can be simple things like punching from behind, not giving away 50's, late curfew's after games.

Certainly in the situation you're looking at there, you state a CHF with a HFF....who is more easily replaced. If you had another CHF in the magoos, why wouldn't you play him if your current CHF is having a few shockers.

What you're doing is exactly what kills clubs. having guys that can't get a game because the high profile blokes can do whatever they want and get away with it. Hopefully Pagan isn't one that follows your line of thinking.

I think the only "non equality" could come from coaches who hope that "he'll come good" on gameday. Normally that's fraught with danger.