Dylan McLaren: Another Pagan Special?

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Little surprised by Pagan’s reliance on recruiting recycled duds, it seems he has learnt nothing from recruiting mature age players other teams dont want: Mick Martyn, Daniel Harford, Steve Kenna et all. 6 or 7 years ago Pagan was known for developing younger players, now it’s quite the reverse. An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.
 
They're going to get two top kids with their first two picks so what's the problem? McLaren is worth a punt considering his cost (NIL) and the lack of quality big men around.
 
coasting said:
Little surprised by Pagan’s reliance on recruiting recycled duds, it seems he has learnt nothing from recruiting mature age players other teams dont want: Mick Martyn, Daniel Harford, Steve Kenna et all. 6 or 7 years ago Pagan was known for developing younger players, now it’s quite the reverse. An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.



OMG this funny because it show's what a arse you are.
 

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McLaren is 23 and was offered a contract by the Lions, which he rejected to come to Carlton.
Hardly old and not really a recycled player considering Brisbane still wanted him.
 
coasting said:
An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.
Aging? Thought we had the youngest list in the comp, or at least one of.

Pagan's lost the players again, virtually 2 teams, pre 2004 and post 2004, and should be given his marching orders. The reason why we're in this predicament but he has a 3 year contract so, financially, we can't afford to let him go.
 
coasting said:
Little surprised by Pagan’s reliance on recruiting recycled duds, it seems he has learnt nothing from recruiting mature age players other teams dont want: Mick Martyn, Daniel Harford, Steve Kenna et all. 6 or 7 years ago Pagan was known for developing younger players, now it’s quite the reverse. An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.

Are you just trying to have a pi$$ing contest with parrot ?
 
JUBJUB said:
Are you just trying to have a pi$$ing contest with parrot ?
More than likely. Embers and coasting share a brain and as Embers has been quite busy lately, coasting is feeling pressure to perform.
 
Jimthegreat said:
Aging? Thought we had the youngest list in the comp, or at least one of.

Pagan's lost the players again, virtually 2 teams, pre 2004 and post 2004, and should be given his marching orders. The reason why we're in this predicament but he has a 3 year contract so, financially, we can't afford to let him go.

Yes you do have one of youngest lists in the comp. Problem is that Carltons starting 22 is one of the oldest and their youngsters like Walker have shown little. However, you are one of the few Blues fans who have realised the false dawn that Pagan presented so for that I appluad you. Mark my words, Carlton will only have success when they let Pagan go.
 
coasting said:
Yes you do have one of youngest lists in the comp. Problem is that Carltons starting 22 is one of the oldest and their youngsters like Walker have shown little. However, you are one of the few Blues fans who have realised the false dawn that Pagan presented so for that I appluad you. Mark my words, Carlton will only have success when they let Pagan go.
Sadly Walker has almost no hope given the total lack of leadership given out there. Like all young guys with talent, they needs leaders during the initial stages of their career or they're like a chook with their head chopped off..
 
deluxeman said:
McLaren is 23 and was offered a contract by the Lions, which he rejected to come to Carlton.
Hardly old and not really a recycled player considering Brisbane still wanted him.
I agree with you 110% .........

I think we have read enough about Dylan McLaren. Give it a break. Good Luck to Dylan, Dennis Pagan and The Carlton Football Club
 
deluxeman said:
McLaren is 23 and was offered a contract by the Lions, which he rejected to come to Carlton.
Hardly old and not really a recycled player considering Brisbane still wanted him.

Exactly. No reason why the Blues shouldn't take him, seeing that they need a ruckman.
 
deluxeman said:
McLaren is 23 and was offered a contract by the Lions, which he rejected to come to Carlton.
Hardly old and not really a recycled player considering Brisbane still wanted him.
McLaren will go well at Carlton.

The only thing that worries me is Pagan's wife feeding him those gourmet sandwiches. Isn't that what Whitnall has been on the last couple of years? :p
 

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coasting said:
Little surprised by Pagan’s reliance on recruiting recycled duds, it seems he has learnt nothing from recruiting mature age players other teams dont want: Mick Martyn, Daniel Harford, Steve Kenna et all. 6 or 7 years ago Pagan was known for developing younger players, now it’s quite the reverse. An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.
Potential 2006 Line up:
Carlton ( Ages at start of 2006 season)
B. Teague(24)Thornton(22) Carrazzo(22)
HB. Lappin(30) Hartlett(19) Saddington(26)
C. Walker(19) Koutoufides(33) Simpson(21)
HF. Waite(23) Whitnall(26) Fisher(21)
F. McLaren(23) Fevola(25) Betts(19)
FOL.French(30) Stevens(26) Scotland(25)
INT. Murphy(18) O'hAilpin(22) Bentick(20) Russell(19)
Average age: 23.32
Gee, aging list that one :rolleyes:
Starting line up includes 4 x 19 year olds, 1 x 18 year old, 1 x 20 year old, 2 x 21 year olds and 3 x 22 year olds. That makes half of that list 22 and under or 17 out of 22 will be 25 and under. Not to mention the rest of this years draft to come! Get your facts right before posting crap next time d***head!
 
coasting said:
Yes you do have one of youngest lists in the comp. Problem is that Carltons starting 22 is one of the oldest and their youngsters like Walker have shown little.

But I thought we had an "aging slow list"
Now its our starting 22 who are one of the oldest. :D

A bit of advice, if you're going to make stupid outlandish statements about an opposition club, at least be marginally factual.
You are exposing yourself as an intellectual midget.
We dont even need to assist. :thumbsu:
 
If Carlton recruit McLaren it will be the biggest ********-up ever. I mean to say this but having watched Dylan McLaren closely I have pretty much all reasons to believe he is the biggest hack of a ruckman to have ever played. No 1%'s, Can bearly mark, Scarecly taps to advantage, often gets lost behind the play, slow, very unintelligent footballer. Strewth Aaron Keating was better than McLaren. That's how lowly I rate McLaren as a ruckman.

Don't recruit him Carlton, it will be the biggest mistake you could ever make!
 
Kapow!!! said:
If Carlton recruit McLaren it will be the biggest ********-up ever. I mean to say this but having watched Dylan McLaren closely I have pretty much all reasons to believe he is the biggest hack of a ruckman to have ever played. No 1%'s, Can bearly mark, Scarecly taps to advantage, often gets lost behind the play, slow, very unintelligent footballer. Strewth Aaron Keating was better than McLaren. That's how lowly I rate McLaren as a ruckman.

Don't recruit him Carlton, it will be the biggest mistake you could ever make!

At the moment he sounds like our other backup ruckmen - Bryan, Prendergast, DeLuca. At least he is better looking.
 
I doubt it could be our biggest stuff-up ever. That would have to put it ahead of the legends stand, under-the-table-payments, our top-10 draft pick history (Livingstone, Vance, Massie, Walker), the decision to turn our list into North Melbourne reserves, Koutoufides whopping contract, appointing Wayne Brittain coach, and all the other whoppers that have got us where we are today...

By those standards recruiting McLaren could only ever be a monumental waste of time; almost an improvement by our recent history!
 
What people tend to forget is that the PSD is used primarily to draft players from other clubs. Considering that Carlton need another ruckman and McLaren wants to return to Victoria, it's a pretty obvious fit. Geez there are some plonkers on these boards (not looking at anyone in particular hey Coasting)..
 
Jumpin' Jimmy said:
McLaren will go well at Carlton.

Yes, I guess if his average of 2 kicks, 3 handballs and 11 hitouts per game are anything to go by then yeah your right, he will be one of Carltons better players. :D
 
Tell me what other decent options are out there in the PSD I mean really ?
BTW Carlton isn't the only club that's after Mclarnen. Hawthorn and the Saints were keen on him as well
 
coasting said:
Little surprised by Pagan’s reliance on recruiting recycled duds, it seems he has learnt nothing from recruiting mature age players other teams dont want: Mick Martyn, Daniel Harford, Steve Kenna et all. 6 or 7 years ago Pagan was known for developing younger players, now it’s quite the reverse. An aging, slow list with arguably the least talented collection of younger players going around at present. It emphasises Pagan’s change in philosophy i.e. get close now to justify his huge contract to the Blues faithful, at the expense of the long term development of his side.

Lesson for today:

Research: To study (something) thoroughly so as to present in a detailed, accurate manner.
 
Kapow!!! said:
If Carlton recruit McLaren it will be the biggest ********-up ever. I mean to say this but having watched Dylan McLaren closely I have pretty much all reasons to believe he is the biggest hack of a ruckman to have ever played. No 1%'s, Can bearly mark, Scarecly taps to advantage, often gets lost behind the play, slow, very unintelligent footballer. Strewth Aaron Keating was better than McLaren. That's how lowly I rate McLaren as a ruckman.

Don't recruit him Carlton, it will be the biggest mistake you could ever make!
Just wondering who the hell do you think you are to make a quote like that? Are you a AFL player that can comment or are you still dreaming of making it. Until you make it shut your ******.

I don't like people putting players down. Not until you fully understand what it takes to make it and the hard work they have to do.......
 
Talented Player said:
I think we have read enough about Dylan McLaren. Give it a break. Good Luck to Dylan, Dennis Pagan and The Carlton Football Club

You should have stopped there! :p
 

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