Current Easey St Murders Collingwood * ARREST MADE

[Satan]

Police have arrested a man in Italy over the 1977 murders of Suzanne Armstrong and Susan Bartlett in their Easey Street home. He fled Australia in 2017 after he became aware he was a suspect.

The man fled to Greece and couldn’t be arrested because local laws meant charges must be laid within seven years of the offence.

Police have waited those 15 years for him to leave Greece so he could be arrested. They will now seek to extradite him to Melbourne to face the charges.

A police spokesperson confirmed a 65-year-old dual citizen of Australia and Greece was arrested at an airport in Rome in the early hours on Friday.


For you russian bots , long unsolved double murder in Melbourne

 

[Jatz]

There was a study done which if I find again will post. It claims that those who aren't caught the first time and go on to serial killing, often start in their teens then they tend to take a break and pick it back up again around 26 or 27yo.

The pressure's too much in their teens and they've usually killed close to home. By the time they're 26 or 27yo, they're independent, more sophisticated, travel further and the fear of getting caught for the first one, has diminished. They think they got away with it, do it better next time and keep going.

I think that's the point though with Perry. Seems pretty hard to believe he'd have escalated but then was able to bring it back to just armed robberies.

Generally if they stop, they'd stop altogether. GSK was a good example. Once he married/had kids, I don't believe he attacked again.

 

[GreyCrow]

It would be very unusual for him to have committed double murder and then only going back to just doing armed robberies.

The vast majority keep escalating, I don't even recall hearing of one that escalated and then kept going with a lesser crime.

Likely but not unlikely

It could be that this was fear of recognition by Bartlett or both ' hey wasnt that the creepy kid that you teach ''

I agree he continued burglaries - and given 2 more cases close by - he may have indeed murdered again

But as Kurve said he may well have chosen softer targets and either not encountered anybody or was not challenged

 

[Kurve]

I think that's the point though with Perry. Seems pretty hard to believe he'd have escalated but then was able to bring it back to just armed robberies.

Generally if they stop, they'd stop altogether. GSK was a good example. Once he married/had kids, I don't believe he attacked again.

When they get married, trawling for victims gets a bit harder and sometimes they end up married to someone who's watching everything they do.

I wonder if Perry got married and when, if he has any kids, what he did for work.

Lots of information to come.

 

[Anja_Nees]

When they get married, trawling for victims gets a bit harder and sometimes they end up married to someone who's watching everything they do.

I wonder if Perry got married and when, if he has any kids, what he did for work.

Lots of information to come.

The Guardian article with his brother’s comments said he didn’t have a partner or kids.

That doesn’t mean he never had a partner at any stage, but I got the impression he hadn’t married.

 

[Jatz]

When they get married, trawling for victims gets a bit harder and sometimes they end up married to someone who's watching everything they do.

I wonder if Perry got married and when, if he has any kids, what he did for work.

Lots of information to come.

Thought I'd read he'd never been married? Was in an article where his brother was claiming his innocence.

 

[Jatz]

Oops, bit late on that.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

A bit more info in the chat with Kohn Sylvester



In 2017 the police decided they’d DNA test everybody in the file, 130 people (40 had passed away, so they needed family).

Suspect initially agreed to be tested then immediately fled to Greece, where he is a dual national.

Extradition only applies if the suspect can be charged in the country they are located in (Greece), not the country where the crime was committed (Australia).

Greece has a statute of limitations of 15 years, or 20 years in the case of murder. So he couldn’t be extradited from Greece.

So they had nothing except putting an Interpol alert on him and hoping he would one day leave Greece for a country where he could be arrested.

Sylvester became aware of this in 2017 but was asked by police not to publish it, as it would notify the suspect and he would never leave Greece.

Last week the suspect travelled to Italy and was arrested at an airport in Rome.

Another thing Sylvester talked about that I found interesting was about the relationships older school students and younger teachers may have had at the time.

Sly speaks of his own experiences where he had actually been to teacher’s houses - listened to music, even had a few beers. Modern standards have totally removed all that but it was a different time.

If this suspect knew the victim/s from school he might have been there multiple times before or at least felt comfortable dropping in - which tallies with the police conclusion that the murderer was willingly let into the house.

Based on this, the time of day, the post-mortem rape… the offender arrives at the house, attempts to initiate sex, is rebuked and (possibly under the influence of something?) attacks. The noise disturbed the other victim who investigates and herself is attacked. Rape occurs, the offender washes up in bathroom and leaves.

Poor Gregory sleeps through the lot, his door closed, the offender possibly not even knowing he was there - or just ignores him as he obviously isn’t a witness.

There’s also the elderly woman next door who saw thru the window the victim and a man sitting and drinking in the early hours. That would tally with this.

 

[Visions]

I think that's the point though with Perry. Seems pretty hard to believe he'd have escalated but then was able to bring it back to just armed robberies.

Generally if they stop, they'd stop altogether. GSK was a good example. Once he married/had kids, I don't believe he attacked again.

Claremont Serial Killer Bradley Edwards too. Stopped after the rapes and 3 murders in the 90’s.

 

[faible]

I think that's the point though with Perry. Seems pretty hard to believe he'd have escalated but then was able to bring it back to just armed robberies.

Generally if they stop, they'd stop altogether. GSK was a good example. Once he married/had kids, I don't believe he attacked again.

The amount of stabbing seems pretty frenzied, in more modern times you'd associate it with some kind of drug use or a really, really deep hated of the victim.

 

[Kurve]

Claremont Serial Killer Bradley Edwards too. Stopped after the rapes and 3 murders in the 90’s.

Edwards got married and his wife eventually became suspicious but he also discovered the internet where he could indulge in violent pr0n and kidnap/rape fantasies.

That might have taken the edge off a bit.

BTK stopped for years as well then suddenly, took killing back up again.

 

[Kurve]

Okay, he was a welder and might be back in Australia by late October.

Mr Tuli said Kouroumblis, who had worked as a welder and had never married, was a 'normal person'.

The dual Australian and Greek citizen is expected to be flown to Australia by late October, with Italian officials telling the Herald Sun the process is already underway.

Easey Street murders suspect set to be extradited within weeks

Perry Kouroumblis, the man accused of the horrific Easey St murders in Melbourne almost 50 years ago, could be extradited to Australia from Italy within weeks.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I’ll be interested to hear details when they emerge of why he went to Rome after not leaving Greece for seven years. What an extraordinary misstep.

I wonder if he was at all active on Facebook and if so, if he was lured to Italy by an online sting by police.

 

[Anja_Nees]

We can all speculate based on other crimes etc, but there are one-time killers out there.

While it varies in different jurisdictions about a quarter of imprisoned murderers reoffend (admittedly people who aren’t caught have more opportunity to kill again).

He might turn out to be another Dupas who just never got caught, but it’s possible he did it once and never again.