Eddie McGuire working on a story that will blow footy apart

[Kickthebloodything]

In there a link to this story?

He said it pre game on Foxtel

 

[Old Spice]

Didn't the AFL scrap these type of deals after the Judd one? I think Geelong tried to do the same with Ablett and were denied. It's a shit situation anyway, should have never happened.

The AFL don't appear to be willing or able to challenge Judd's multiple shady dealings.

The 3rd party deals may have failed with Ablett, but for some reason the AFL sees fit to let them roll on for Carlton. Greg Swann was very cocksure about the 250k Visy deal getting ticked off again after its expiration.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...-judds-visy-deal/story-e6frf9jf-1226423844309

The AFL Players' Association and Carlton believe Judd's $250,000-a-year deal with the club sponsor will be ticked off again when the skipper comes out of contract next season.

There was no reason the deal would not be endorsed, Blues chief executive Greg Swann said yesterday.

"This is its fifth year, so it's not like it's secretive," he said.

"The AFL have had plenty of chances to have a look at it and determine its value. There is no question in our mind that it will go again.

Okay, that might be Swann's view and hope, but what was the AFL's response to the deal going again?

Hedging you could drive a Mack truck through.

http://www.afl.com.au/aflhq/aflplayerssaynotodrugs/display/tabid/13144/newsid/93408/default.aspx

Anderson said Judd's arrangement with Visy would have stood up to scrutiny from the League's chief investigator, Ken Wood, when the former Eagle crossed to Carlton at the end of 2007.

"He would have had to have been satisfied that it's of commercial value, what he's doing for Visy, and that it's independent of the club sponsorship," he said.

"What we've done in the meantime with free agency coming in, is not only require players to lodge all their investments with associates, but also we're taking a tighter approach to third-party arrangements."

However

Anderson used Bulldog Jason Akermanis' work as a columnist for the Herald Sun as an example of a legitimate working arrangement outside of the club's salary cap.

"Players, like anyone, have the right to go and earn money outside their work as a footballer," he said.

"They (the deals) are legitimate, independent and must be of commercial value, so Ken Wood must be satisfied that he (Akermanis) is getting paid what those articles are worth.

"He'll get paid a fee for writing those articles and that sits outside the salary cap."

The question is not if such arrangements sit outside the cap, but whether they also sit outside the ASA. The Judd deal sits outside both the cap and the ASA. Anderson has muddied the waters here and no-one has drilled him specifically to answer the simple question: will the Judd deal with Visy be incorporated into the ASA (which is like TPP, capped) or does it sit outside that?

If the below is any indication, Carlton are having a laugh at the AFL's expense. In addition to the Visy rort, Judd has also managed to snaffle 500k in another shady operation.

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=135496

CARLTON captain Chris Judd is being investigated by the AFL over a half-million dollar business venture with a club board member.

It is believed the AFL has spoken to Judd's manager Paul Connors regarding a business operated by Mark Lo Giudice, a Carlton coterie club member who has since moved onto the club's board.

The matter recently played out in the County Court, where Judd successfully retrieved a $500,000 investment.

The AFL has refused to discuss the matter, saying it does not comment on individual cases.

So, despite all the waffle about clamping down or tightening up on arrangements with associates last year, Judd walks away from the County Court with 500k in his pocket.

Either the AFL 'refuses' to discuss this because it's an embarrassing reveal, or Carlton have sought legal advice which states the AFL can't do anything to challenge it from a legal perspective.

Well in that case we are within our rights to do the same.

 

[Yidaki]

He said it pre game on Foxtel

Oh ok.

 

[Kickthebloodything]

Oh ok.

Was pretty emphatic that it will rock the industry and break over the nest 2 weeks, but Eddie could talk up a Fitzroy South Melbourne game

 

[mattys123]

Just on the "third party deals", there have been rumours going around that the new jumper manufacturer we have, Star Athletic (apparently an off shoot of "The Promotion Factory" organization), is a personal sponsor of Travis Cloke, and has been for a while.

It's just a rumour, but maybe we have gone down the path of choosing them as our manufacturer and provider of choice just to keep Trav.

 

[TradeDraft]

Just on the "third party deals", there have been rumours going around that the new jumper manufacturer we have, Star Athletic (apparently an off shoot of "The Promotion Factory" organization), is a personal sponsor of Travis Cloke, and has been for a while.

It's just a rumour, but maybe we have gone down the path of choosing them as our manufacturer and provider of choice just to keep Trav.

Maybe they can Employ Cloke and Have him on a Million Dollar a Year Wage

 

[KnaveyBlue]

In addition to the Visy rort, Judd has also managed to snaffle 500k in another shady operation... Judd walks away from the County Court with 500k in his pocket.

Had you bothered to even glance at the article, you'd realise the $500k was Judd's own money he invested in a venture. He simply retrieved it.

By all means keep banging on with your "omg taek there dratf pikcs cuz they are the cheatings!" idiocy though.

 

[jmac70]

Had you bothered to even glance at the article, you'd realise the $500k was Judd's own money he invested in a venture. He simply retrieved it.

By all means keep banging on with your "omg taek there dratf pikcs cuz they are the cheatings!" idiocy though.

I would be interested to hear your views on the extension of the Visy deal?

 

[TradeDraft]

Had you bothered to even glance at the article, you'd realise the $500k was Judd's own money he invested in a venture. He simply retrieved it.

By all means keep banging on with your "omg taek there dratf pikcs cuz they are the cheatings!" idiocy though.

You Barrack for the Cheats so you don't have much to stand on

 

[vjknight]

malthouse has demanded a position on carltons board for wife nanette.

 

[Old Spice]

Sorry, you're right.

The graft is only Visy at @250k per annum.

 

[Kickthebloodything]

Sanctioned cheating

 

[TradeDraft]

Sanctioned cheating

I reckon it is, How can be 1 thing be okay for Carltscum and Not Okay for the rest of the Comp?

 

[No SPIN]

Had you bothered to even glance at the article, you'd realise the $500k was Judd's own money he invested in a venture. He simply retrieved it.

By all means keep banging on with your "omg taek there dratf pikcs cuz they are the cheatings!" idiocy though.

Very interesting - the questions is where did the original capital come from - was it a LOAN and if so from whom?
If I was a cynic I would simply say Judd borrowed the money, and now has had the money returned to him via a "legitimate" action in court. And by suing a Carlton director, wow it's starting the smell. So now the questions is will this be considered income, because my suspicion is that this is a potential rues where the original debt has been forgiven effectively giving Judd $500k.
This idea that he is suing to get back his investment sounds suspect - and I would venture to suggest it had to go to court to provide the legitimacy for what otherwise would be a transfer of funds from a Carlton Director (ie the club) to Judd.

It's very clever but AFL must dig deeper.

 

[Pie eyed]

Had you bothered to even glance at the article, you'd realise the $500k was Judd's own money he invested in a venture. He simply retrieved it.

By all means keep banging on with your "omg taek there dratf pikcs cuz they are the cheatings!" idiocy though.

No matter how you want to "package" the facts, Judd got and gets paid a giant whack of dough on top of his "stated" salary cap payments and htis giant whack of dough is in fact part of his payment for services to the Carlton Football Club.

Travis Cloke could sign for $500 large a year but also moonlight as Canteen Manager for the extra $500 large.
Ain't no difference, other than the fact that Fitzpatrick thinks he run the AFL on behalf of Cartoon.

 

[1980GFVideo]

Back in his MMM days he held me hostage to his stations ramblings for half an hour while he said he was breaking a huge story soon.

Finally the big moment came after sitting through radio commercials that would drive you to insanity...

Drum roll.....

Some presenter on lifestyle program admits that he had cross dressed during his life.

I hated Eddie so much but that his advertisers should have given him a standing ovation.

To be bitten once is to not be bitten again.

 

[jmac70]

Back in his MMM days he held me hostage to his stations ramblings for half an hour while he said he was breaking a huge story soon.

Finally the big moment came after sitting through radio commercials that would drive you to insanity...

Drum roll.....

Some presenter on lifestyle program admits that he had cross dressed during his life.

I hated Eddie so much but that his advertisers should have given him a standing ovation.

To be bitten once is to not be bitten again.

I was only ten but I still remember that 1980 GF. The image of KB's hair trailing in the wind has haunted me since.

 

[daics_35]

I think it maybe the first gay player to come out. I woudln't have thought that's the kind of news that could rock the AFL.

It must be negative news because he says it will rock the league. Apart from my first guess I can't really see anything else. I strongly doubt it would be Carlton and salary cap issues being the news becuase it would be wrong from a president of a rival club to break that kind of news and the media would have got a hold of it already.

 

[Mark_K]

Probably won't be anything awesome, but im hoping for a drugs type piece. That would be interesting.

 

[1980GFVideo]

I was only ten but I still remember that 1980 GF. The image of KB's hair trailing in the wind has haunted me since.

it hard to believe that KB was in his mid thirties. Later realised that the comb over didnt hide baldness and that wearing a cap at all times was a better foil.

Have you seen Murrays charachter in kingpin

 

[Pie eyed]

Player caught raging on pingers during a final....?
What date does the "injunction" run out?
It can't last forever.

 

[soreplums]

I think it maybe the first gay player to come out. I woudln't have thought that's the kind of news that could rock the AFL.

It must be negative news because he says it will rock the league. Apart from my first guess I can't really see anything else. I strongly doubt it would be Carlton and salary cap issues being the news becuase it would be wrong from a president of a rival club to break that kind of news and the media would have got a hold of it already.

I've been thinking this too since there was a similar story on the news tonight

 

[blaze036]

sadly i dont think the AFL is ready for a gay player to come out... the amount of abuse from opponents and idiot crowd members would be embarrassing for the AFL and would make things worse

 

[Unknown Identity]

I'll have a stab at it..

I'd say Eddie may be looking into the AFL having no legal stance to stop third party deals happening as its impeding a person's ability to earn a wage. If they are employed by a third party and fulfill that employment, then player X is entitled to whatever wage the parties have agreed upon.

This would be regarding the third party deal we would be trying to organise for Cloke.

If there were no restrictions on third party deals and mix that with Free Agency, poaching of players would increase 10 fold, and the money being thrown around would be quite substantial.

Stab in the dark..

 

[ZergMinion]

I would hazard a guess he's just sick of Mick Malthouse to Carlton being story of the month.