EDFL Premier Discussion 2023

[BluesBy1PointIn'99Prelim]

Cheers mate. To my knowledge they didn’t scope other clubs or pillage clubs. However a few neighbouring clubs couldn’t sustain juniors and players then had to find other clubs so they just so happened to go to Pacco as it was reasonable close. Bit different however I do understand your point in that ultimately the major clubs still dominate juniors and the gap has widen whereas in the past you might have seen a Hillside, Westmeadows, West Coburg junior team in the div1 finals it’s not happening nowadays. These clubs have r*ped other clubs. Yes they might say kids went there by choice but let me tell you 95% of them didn’t just walk into these clubs without some contact from these clubs.
One example is Keilor winning the 16 div1 premiership under McGuane. The best player on GF day wasn’t a keilor junior. He went there this season from a neighbouring club. Where does it stop???
AFL Vic bring in a points system to even the competition. Has it worked in leveling it out. No it hasn’t. WHY don’t they look at the juniors and stop clubs from targeting young talent from other clubs. This might over time even it out somewhat..

Imagine zones for juniors… realistically would probably kill off some good clubs in older areas but an interesting thought that would shake up the senior programs as well

 

[BEST OF EDFL]

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Imagine zones for juniors… realistically would probably kill off some good clubs in older areas but an interesting thought that would shake up the senior programs as well

Imagine zones for juniors… realistically would probably kill off some good clubs in older areas but an interesting thought that would shake up the senior programs as well

How about a cap on what clubs charge juniors for membership ..This would dampen enthusiasm to recruit from all and sundry

 

[stroketurboego]

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How about a cap on what clubs charge juniors for membership ..This would dampen enthusiasm to recruit from all and sundry

Or cap the number of junior teams per age group
Which will aid in distribution of talent and by default increase the number of home growns in seniors.


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[Johndoe]

Or cap the number of junior teams per age group
Which will aid in distribution of talent and by default increase the number of home growns in seniors.


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they currently are capped and have been for 20 years - max 4 teams per age group

You can argue that's too high - but there is a cap

 

[the horse whisper]

Imagine zones for juniors… realistically would probably kill off some good clubs in older areas but an interesting thought that would shake up the senior programs as well

Why don’t you use the point system for juniors. I know the WRFL use the points system. Maybe only give them 30 points per team. It will stop clubs recruiting kids at 14, 16 & 18 level.

 

[ROOS77]

Why don’t you use the point system for juniors. I know the WRFL use the points system. Maybe only give them 30 points per team. It will stop clubs recruiting kids at 14, 16 & 18 level.

The WRFL junior points system is totally useless. It hasn’t made one ounce of difference

 

[MPMonkeys]

Why don’t you use the point system for juniors. I know the WRFL use the points system. Maybe only give them 30 points per team. It will stop clubs recruiting kids at 14, 16 & 18 level.

Understand the idea however has flaws. Juniors don't have any choice if their parents move suburbs or areas.
Would not be fair on a club that welcomes a kid that has moved across town because of his/her parents.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Good luck over the weekend Stax

Thanks Turbo, and likewise to your team, Pascoe Vale. Would be a huge effort to knock off Keilor, but finals are an entirely different ball game. So you never know.

 

[HELLSBELLS]

One word - SCARED

Scared of what ?

 

[stroketurboego]

they currently are capped and have been for 20 years - max 4 teams per age group

You can argue that's too high - but there is a cap

Yes apologies was meant to say Lower the cap
3 maybe even 2


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[BlueJet]

Cheers mate. To my knowledge they didn’t scope other clubs or pillage clubs. However a few neighbouring clubs couldn’t sustain juniors and players then had to find other clubs so they just so happened to go to Pacco as it was reasonable close. Bit different however I do understand your point in that ultimately the major clubs still dominate juniors and the gap has widen whereas in the past you might have seen a Hillside, Westmeadows, West Coburg junior team in the div1 finals it’s not happening nowadays. These clubs have r*ped other clubs. Yes they might say kids went there by choice but let me tell you 95% of them didn’t just walk into these clubs without some contact from these clubs.
One example is Keilor winning the 16 div1 premiership under McGuane. The best player on GF day wasn’t a keilor junior. He went there this season from a neighbouring club. Where does it stop???
AFL Vic bring in a points system to even the competition. Has it worked in leveling it out. No it hasn’t. WHY don’t they look at the juniors and stop clubs from targeting young talent from other clubs. This might over time even it out somewhat..

From afar, it does appear that the increased strength of the Pacco junior setup has coincided with the increase in players lobbing at Raeburn from surrounding clubs.
Honestly though mate, I was just giving you a bit of cheek due to previous statements you'd made on the subject.
We're in agreement though that the balance of talented kids filtering through a select few clubs is problematic and only leads to further issues, hopefully with time, the myth that you need to be at Abers, Keilor etc. to be spotted by scouts can be eroded.

 

[BEST OF EDFL]

they currently are capped and have been for 20 years - max 4 teams per age group

You can argue that's too high - but there is a cap

Capping the fees will reduce the teams at an any given ..max a kid should get charged is 150. ..clubs paying bills due to excessive junior subs is just wrong and should be uniformed

 

[Turbos mail]

Why don’t you use the point system for juniors. I know the WRFL use the points system. Maybe only give them 30 points per team. It will stop clubs recruiting kids at 14, 16 & 18 level.

That’s an interesting one and didn’t know they did this.

 

[Moredribble2]

Why don’t you use the point system for juniors. I know the WRFL use the points system. Maybe only give them 30 points per team. It will stop clubs recruiting kids at 14, 16 & 18 level.

I think if they start doing this and zoning to junior footy,some kids will stop playing as they can’t play with their mates. Big risk


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[Turbos mail]

I think if they start doing this and zoning to junior footy,some kids will stop playing as they can’t play with their mates. Big risk


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Agree the zoning is not ideal but pretty sure when you play TAC cup you go to the club you’re zoned to.
I don’t a points system type process. Maybe only 1 player from an opposing club per age group.

 

[BlueJet]

I think if they start doing this and zoning to junior footy,some kids will stop playing as they can’t play with their mates. Big risk


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Surely the opportunity to get one over your mates is still appealing?
Given the rates of attrition, particularly at some of the larger clubs across the state, players are stopping playing as it is - the risk is in doing nothing IMO.

 

[Aucklander]

Keilor by 24
Strathmore by 12

Enjoy the weekend everyone.

 

[Localblues]

Keilor by 24
Strathmore by 12

Enjoy the weekend everyone.

Keilor in a tight one, under a kick is my tip
Strathmore by 6 goals+. Close first half but strathmore put on a second half clinic

 

[oldone1]

Keilor by 72
Strathmore by 15

 

[Mango83]

Keilor by 20
Strathmore by 45

PV straight sets, Keilor V Strathmore GF

 

[Gremlin77]

Keilor by 20
Strathmore by 45

PV straight sets, Keilor V Strathmore GF

Keilor by 36
Strathmore by 20

 

[Turbos mail]

Keilor by 72
Strathmore by 15

Pacco by 95
Strathmore by 34

 

[oldbutwise]

Brodie Holland

Brodie Holland

Age

44

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

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10.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

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8.6

4star

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2.2

2star

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3.0

3star

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1.0

3star

back at Marby

 

[Route 59]

Brodie Holland

Brodie Holland

Age

44

Ht

181cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

8.6

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

back at Marby

Wonder if there is some truth to them not getting relegated?


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[chickenonachain]

Wonder if there is some truth to them not getting relegated?


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I heard they asked not to be relegated as they have under 18/s haven’t given a walkover in the 2nds compared to other clubs. Yes they didn’t win enough games to stay up but they didn’t forfeit any games either.