Injury Elliot out for ....(well a couple of months you'd think)

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I didnt think Bucks was that restrained at all! He seemed to be implying with Howe that even ignoring injury, his fitness was not up to scratch. Howe will rightfullly have to earn his way into the 22 with good old fashioned hard work.

From a heads up I got it was very restrained to what occurred internally.
 
From a heads up I got it was very restrained to what occurred internally.

He will be spending a long time in the VFL until he gets to the required level. Of the three blokes we have picked up (not counting Golds) he is the one with the biggest question marks as he has been a one trick pony his entire career. Needs to win more ball to make it a success at Collingwood and to do that needs to have the requisite level of fitness. Hes not at Melbourne any more. Leigh Brown got a similar wakeup call when he arrived at Collingwood and came good quickly.
 
Just read in the Steele thread that Elliott has a pars defect. That is not at all good. He will have to manage this for the rest of his career barring surgery.
Not being a medical person, I'm not sure what this might mean TRS
So as to get an idea on how it will affect him, do you know of any other recent players who have had this injury?
 

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Just read in the Steele thread that Elliott has a pars defect. That is not at all good. He will have to manage this for the rest of his career barring surgery.
If I didn't know better, I'd say that was a typo and should be called Pa's defect.
 
Not being a medical person, I'm not sure what this might mean TRS
So as to get an idea on how it will affect him, do you know of any other recent players who have had this injury?
Not offhand, and I may be overstating things as there would be elite athletes out there who have this condition without experiencing symptoms, even from birth... but once the patient/athlete has reported symptoms it's clearly become an issue, and it appears now to have become chronic, I think it very likely that he will be battling these issues for the rest of his career.

The surgical approach would normally involve bone grafting with the pelvis as the donor site. Probably a lengthy recovery time.

The defect would be under most stress during loading and extension IMHO, so jumping/landing, reaching up for overhead marks, tackling/bumping, maybe kicking over longer distances... not so much running.
 
If I didn't know better, I'd say that was a typo and should be called Pa's defect.
Nah, it's called the pars interarticularis, it's part of the vertebra between the various processes on the back side. Pars defects are not uncommon and can be thought of as similar to a stress fracture, but if they don't heal up the first time, then the outlook isn't too sunny for it to ever happen without surgery/dramatic change in lifestyle.
 

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If I didn't know better, I'd say that was a typo and should be called Pa's defect.
Nah Pa's defect affects hearing intermittently.

It's when Ma tells him to mow the lawn or put out the garbage but he doesn't hear.
He does however hear when Ma says "dinner time or would you like a beer".

It's a frustrating disease........for women.
 
So this will effectively, for all intents and purposes have him out for the year.

Each time he'll be "a week or two away", something will crop up and it will keep him out an extra month or more until the end of the season nears tand they just call it and give him surgery at seasons end.
 
So this will effectively, for all intents and purposes have him out for the year.

Each time he'll be "a week or two away", something will crop up and it will keep him out an extra month or more until the end of the season nears tand they just call it and give him surgery at seasons end.
From my understanding if he requires surgery his career will be done, as it requires the vertebrae to be fused.

Correct me if I'm wrong The Royal Sampler
 
Nah Pa's defect affects hearing intermittently.

It's when Ma tells him to mow the lawn or put out the garbage but he doesn't hear.
He does however hear when Ma says "dinner time or would you like a beer".

It's a frustrating disease........for women.
That's one of them.
Old man's back is the other one
 
From my understanding if he requires surgery his career will be done, as it requires the vertebrae to be fused.

Correct me if I'm wrong The Royal Sampler
If he develops a spondylolisthesis, which is where one vertebra slips forward on an adjacent vertebra, then you might consider fusion, but that is a more advanced condition than what we are referring to here. A pars defect refers to something more like a stress fracture, without displacement, on one side of the vertebra only.

Potentially, surgery might entail taking bone from his pelvis and grafting it onto the defective area, to aid union at the pars on one vertebral level. Even that would only be if he can't effectively manage his symptoms over the course of the season.
 
“We’re going to take him out of the program for three or four weeks and not do the genuine footy stuff.

“We’re pretty confident that by that stage he should be right to go again.”

LOL. OP is correct - this equates to months of chiropractic therapy and a trip to the leading obstetrician in Austria.
 
It's definitely not my field of expertise, but I do work in a highly related field and seriously, as I said from the outside looking in, something is missing. You can't have the amount of re injuries, stress related injuries and set backs for this to be bad luck.
Which field do you work in buddy?

I agree, why, 4 weeks before the season starts, does the Club decide to "...take him out of the program for three or four weeks and not do the genuine footy stuff."

Ought this have been done from the very beginning that Elliott notified the medicos that he had a (recurrence of an) injury?
 
CFC needs to adopt the "under-promise, over-deliver" approach to injury reporting. Don't give us best case and then leave us disappointed. If a player is realistically likely to miss six weeks, far better to tell us that he'll miss eight and then deliver a pleasant surprise be bringing him back two weeks "early" than tell us that he'll miss four, only to enrage the masses when he comes back two weeks "late". Its about expectation management! CFC gets this wrong time and time again.
 
CFC needs to adopt the "under-promise, over-deliver" approach to injury reporting. Don't give us best case and then leave us disappointed. If a player is realistically likely to miss six weeks, far better to tell us that he'll miss eight and then deliver a pleasant surprise be bringing him back two weeks "early" than tell us that he'll miss four, only to enrage the masses when he comes back two weeks "late". Its about expectation management! CFC gets this wrong time and time again.
So now we want the club to lie to us?
 
CFC needs to adopt the "under-promise, over-deliver" approach to injury reporting. Don't give us best case and then leave us disappointed. If a player is realistically likely to miss six weeks, far better to tell us that he'll miss eight and then deliver a pleasant surprise be bringing him back two weeks "early" than tell us that he'll miss four, only to enrage the masses when he comes back two weeks "late". Its about expectation management! CFC gets this wrong time and time again.

The only problem with that is that you'd get some around here complaining about players being rushed back too soon :p
 

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