essendon VS hawthorn BRAWL - from a couple years ago

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what really surprised me was that the incident that triggered the ball was incidental contact. essendon took exception to chance bateman legitimately going for a mark and taking out winderlich as he did. bateman played hard+fair football for one of the rare occasions in 2004 and essendon retaliated too it, starting the brawl.

I thought it started by Bateman having another crack at him as he went off the ground with blood.
 
After the fight there was only one team willing to put their head over the ball and that team won easily. The only reason the Hawks beat us now is we aren't very good, after 25yrs of success that's ok
 
It started because Batemen took a cheap shot taking Winderlich out.

I can't believe Hawks supporters HONESTLY think that Vandenburg was being tough. And someone said Essendon are 'deluding' ourselves in that McPhee wasn't being weak...

Watch that freaking video!!! He is being sat on and held down by two hawks players while Vandenberg throws punches. The only weak thing there is the dog act by Vandenberg, HENCE WHY HE WAS SUSPENDED.

I'm all for brawls, i love em, but that was one of the most disgraceful things i've ever seen. Dog. Scum. Shit player. All of the above.

I love how deluded some people are. Essendon even WON the next game after that massive win. The only reason Hawks are beating us now is because they are a better team, it has nothing to do with that brawl.
 

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Don't forget Bateman the gutless wonder. Vandenturd is a hack, needs two of his team mates to pin down McPhee. Real tough act Ritchie you piece of scum.

Players like Wallis, Barnard, the Jonhsons etc and there are many more are the reason why the Hawks took it up to you guys. They're the scum and it was their actions in the years leading up to that point that led our guys to take the action they did. I was proud of our boys for what they did because every Hawthorn fan hates Essendon with a passion not to mention countless other sets of fans. You had absolutely no respect for us and we put you in your place - i'm still glad to the day. Barnard's the worst (what a lowlife tossbag).

Trivia: Who are two of the only players in the AFL to arrogantly chew gum as they play? Answer: Mark Johnson and Peter Everitt. And what do they have in common.............
 
Players like Wallis, Barnard, the Jonhsons etc and there are many more are the reason why the Hawks took it up to you guys. They're the scum and it was their actions in the years leading up to that point that led our guys to take the action they did. I was proud of our boys for what they did because every Hawthorn fan hates Essendon with a passion not to mention countless other sets of fans. You had absolutely no respect for us and we put you in your place - i'm still glad to the day. Barnard's the worst (what a lowlife tossbag).

Trivia: Who are two of the only players in the AFL to arrogantly chew gum as they play? Answer: Mark Johnson and Peter Everitt. And what do they have in common.............

Well MJ has won more premierships than probably all of your team.. Not sure about Spider...
 
That was choice! I remember watching that at home, I got so into it! :thumbsu:
Love the McPhee threating finger point with the bloodied eye socket! :p
 
Players like Wallis, Barnard, the Jonhsons etc and there are many more are the reason why the Hawks took it up to you guys. They're the scum and it was their actions in the years leading up to that point that led our guys to take the action they did. I was proud of our boys for what they did because every Hawthorn fan hates Essendon with a passion not to mention countless other sets of fans. You had absolutely no respect for us and we put you in your place - i'm still glad to the day. Barnard's the worst (what a lowlife tossbag).

Trivia: Who are two of the only players in the AFL to arrogantly chew gum as they play? Answer: Mark Johnson and Peter Everitt. And what do they have in common.............

Yep, all premiership players. :thumbsu:

Thanks for your useless trivia, really informative. Your a tool. :eek:
 
It happened right in front of me, as I was sitting Level 1 on that wing at the time. Still one of favourite footy memories. It was awesome.

Anyone who says stuff like that is bad for footy is a soft prick who needs to harden the f-k up.

Absolutely fantastic post- from a Bombers fan who saw the incident for what it was. A bit of good old fashioned biffo. Turning point of the club- you don't see Essendon boys from that day throwing cheapy's around willy nilly these days....
 
Was a good brawl, wish there was more of it these days. From memory there wasn't as many suspensions as you might think.

I do love how many hawks, especially Dermie claim this is the reason they've had the wood on us ever since. The brawl was in 04. In 05 and 06 we were bottom 4 and Hawthorn generally beat us caus they can run a hell of a lot harder and longer.
 
It started because Batemen took a cheap shot taking Winderlich out.

I can't believe Hawks supporters HONESTLY think that Vandenburg was being tough. And someone said Essendon are 'deluding' ourselves in that McPhee wasn't being weak...

Watch that freaking video!!! He is being sat on and held down by two hawks players while Vandenberg throws punches. The only weak thing there is the dog act by Vandenberg, HENCE WHY HE WAS SUSPENDED.

I'm all for brawls, i love em, but that was one of the most disgraceful things i've ever seen. Dog. Scum. Shit player. All of the above.

I love how deluded some people are. Essendon even WON the next game after that massive win. The only reason Hawks are beating us now is because they are a better team, it has nothing to do with that brawl.
For freak sake Bateman at about 50kg's was not capable of a cheap shot. He was a millisecond late in a marking contest that was worthy of a free kick. It was when big tough johnno came in to show tiny Bateman how big and tough he is that it all went haywire. The players had obviously discussed big tough johnno at halftime for his other unexpected display of super toughness after umpires whistle, and had had enough.
I am not saying Vander was tough for doing what he did, but I do know that he did what he had to do and I firmly believe that it still has an impact today.
 
For freak sake Bateman at about 50kg's was not capable of a cheap shot. He was a millisecond late in a marking contest that was worthy of a free kick. It was when big tough johnno came in to show tiny Bateman how big and tough he is that it all went haywire. The players had obviously discussed big tough johnno at halftime for his other unexpected display of super toughness after umpires whistle, and had had enough.
I am not saying Vander was tough for doing what he did, but I do know that he did what he had to do and I firmly believe that it still has an impact today.

Intentional. He darted into him.. He changed directions to take Licha out.
 
Geez Vanders is a tough guy, throwing punches at a guy who is being held down. At least he's retiring, good riddance do bad rubbish.
 

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Eh? Mark Johnson was f***ing owned by Nick Holland. Mark Johnson was never the same "tough guy" ever again, as he was put in his place that day... Now he runs around in the VFL kicking people.

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(the Bombers even had a winge to say Johnson stopped breathing)

Hawks might have got bent over on the scoreboard, but the Bombers were bent over in the fight and have been rubbish v the Hawks since.

That's a grapple tackle if i've ever seen one.
 
He got knocked down first by Vandenberg, and yea he is a tough guy.

Once again.. Punching a guy that is being held down by two others. Yeah real tough.

There simply is no comeback to that. Whatever you think of McPhee. That was scum. Accept it. Move on. I'm not talking about any other hawthorn player. Im not talking about McPhee. I'm talking about Vandenberg unloading on a guy who had no ability to defend himself. Not a fair fight. Scum.
 
I hate Essendon more than any club in the world, i really do, i cant stand them. But they were the victims of flipping cheap *****. Essendon got their ass handed to them on a platter, but not through the right means. Hawthorn, led by their "admirable" skipper, fought cheap and dirty, and it was a disgrace. If your going to have a biff, do it fairly, not hold someone down and get free shots in. Cheapest thing ive ever seen in AFL. Can't believe Hawks fans are proud of the way their team fought
 
Eh? Mark Johnson was f***ing owned by Nick Holland. Mark Johnson was never the same "tough guy" ever again, as he was put in his place that day... Now he runs around in the VFL kicking people.

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(the Bombers even had a winge to say Johnson stopped breathing)

Hawks might have got bent over on the scoreboard, but the Bombers were bent over in the fight and have been rubbish v the Hawks since.
you do realise MJ was asked to be aprofessional boxer.. he could kick 75% of footy players asses no worries
 
Once again.. Punching a guy that is being held down by two others. Yeah real tough.

There simply is no comeback to that. Whatever you think of McPhee. That was scum. Accept it. Move on. I'm not talking about any other hawthorn player. Im not talking about McPhee. I'm talking about Vandenberg unloading on a guy who had no ability to defend himself. Not a fair fight. Scum.
:rolleyes:

Someone should give this thread an "R" rating and check ID's at the door.
 
Have you noticed how the umpires generally let those sort of tackles go this season?

Too busy looking for holding the ball...

I actually think that it's creeping into the game from League.

Slow up the player on the bottom (grappling around the head), and you'll restrict him from having any real involvement in the play for the next few minutes as he literally clears his head.
 
heh, essendon supporters cannot win - i get a lot of satisfaction hearing that we are the better team - somebody should tell your fans when they start threads about how you're going to beat us every time we play you
 
Bollocks.
As I said, it happened in front of me.

Winderlich dove low for a mark. Bateman dropped his hip and smashed Winders head. Gutless, dirty, low, pathetic act. That started the brawl. Any arguement to the contrary is a lie.
 

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