Yep, sure.
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You know the answers to your question and exactly what I meant.Thanks for the laugh.Why haven't they issued one to all players at EFC in 2012, just 34? Why are EFC fighting this in court if they mean nothing?
They have actually. Every single player who had any injection whatsoever got oneThanks for the laugh.
boncer34
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What? Noooooo. Only the players who got injected with TB4 got one.... or only the ones the Judge signed off got one.... or.... um well hmm.
I'll get back to you Lance.
Suspicion a player that received no injections also received a SCN. too.
boncer34
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Don't be dumb. ASADA are a competent organisation with air tight proof.
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Havent read the whole thread, but in terms of process - realistically, how quickly can this process be undertaken?
As I understand, SC notices ahve been issued (and responded to), so surely ASADA will have prepped Infraction notices if they believe they have enough evidence to proceed. So once Middleton delivers his verdict (lets say by Friday Aug 15th - 2 days after the hearing), i'm assuming the IN's would be out within the day?
How long then would the turnaround be between issuing the notices and suspensions (if these were the outcome)?
As I understand, SC notices ahve been issued (and responded to), so surely ASADA will have prepped Infraction notices if they believe they have enough evidence to proceed. So once Middleton delivers his verdict (lets say by Friday Aug 15th - 2 days after the hearing), i'm assuming the IN's would be out within the day?
How long then would the turnaround be between issuing the notices and suspensions (if these were the outcome)?
The SC notices have not been responded to yet, ASADA have given an extention on the date they have to be answered by to an indefinate date. (Depends on the trial)
Middleton I understand will probably take a few weeks to make his decision.
If ASADA's SCN are still valid, they will submit their brief to the ADVRP, and I believe the players too to allow them to respond. The player submits thei reply to the ADVRP - (separate to the SCN reply)
The ADVRP meet dis determine if there is a case to be heard. If they believe their is, the player will be entered into the Register of Findings, which is the red light for an infraction notice to be issued.
From there it goes to the AFL anti doping tribunal
boncer34
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Nope
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Well thats much more long winded than I expected.
With regards to responding to the notices, I thought the court determination was that players still had to respond (by July 20-something), but that ASADA couldnt do anything with them. Did this change in a subsequent hearing?
boncer34
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Yeah but he's now on the register because he defied ASADA.
boncer34
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And then what? Once he fails to respond within 10 days they move him on to the register yeah?
Your sarcastic comment may be correct but they are still more competent than Essendon FC who it seems couldn't even document their own drug use, so I would still tend to believe ASADA's evidence over Essendons spin.
Good post, would read againIm surprised then that they didn't just issue them to all registered AFL players
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I might be wrong, but I suspect he said he was going to appeal.
As I understand it there is no avenue to the AAT until after ADRVP consideration.
I'm glad to see you are so certain that everything was completely legitimate that it took you all of 4 words before you find a question mark as to the legitimacy of what was taken, thankfully it was only 10 or 12 players anyway and only for "injury treatment", not sure why the AFL don't just let it ride like they did when your club cheated to win the '93 flag
I'd be interested to know where TB4 was reportedly only used by 10-12 players and only for injury treatment?
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If he fails to respond, ASADA will prep their brief for the ADVRP, and I believe hand their brief to Dank,
Dank can make his submission to the ADVRP.
The ADVRP view the submissions and decide whether there is a case to answer, if they believe there is than they will be put on the RoF. - and light for an infraction notice, at that step I belive is where the appeal with the ATT I believe.
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