Essendons Strengths & Weaknesses

[Rik E Boy]

Voss wasn't quick, S.Black aint quick, Buckley wasn't quick, Burns aint quick, Goodwin aint quick, Edwards aint quick, Ricciuto wasn't quick, Kirk aint quick, West aint quick

being fast is the most over-rated part of modern footy

a team looks quick when they have the pill, when they dont have the pill they look slow.....it is that simple

Any team that has slow blokes that don't have good foot skills produce costly turnovers...it is that simple. Geelong aren't all that quick in midfield either, it was the skills that improved in 2007. I believe if you lack pace your skills better be good. It is a combination of pace and footskills that complete the picture.

regards,

REB

 

[doppleganger]

We recruited two quick skinny blokes...

Dempsey, Jetta, Davey, Houli.....i would describe these blokes as quick skinny blokes.....already have Lovett and Winderlich in the team too.

Will be like T.Wallet teams i reckon, with a bunch of light on midfielders who look great when they are on but come up short when pressure is applied.

 

[doppleganger]

Any team that has slow blokes that don't have good foot skills produce costly turnovers...it is that simple. Geelong aren't all that quick in midfield either, it was the skills that improved in 2007. I believe if you lack pace your skills better be good. It is a combination of pace and footskills that complete the picture.

regards,

REB

Footskills the most important thing, move the ball much quicker with accurate foot passing than you can by running it.

A team needs to have 1 or 2 line breakers with speed, but the rest just need to have great disposal.

Geelong have Wojack and perhaps G.Ablett as the quick blokes, the rest of their midfield aint quick at all.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Strengths:

Unflinching belief in themselves.

Weaknesses

Belief is unfounded.

 

[Schmick]

Dempsey, Jetta, Davey, Houli.....i would describe these blokes as quick skinny blokes.....already have Lovett and Winderlich in the team too.

Will be like T.Wallet teams i reckon, with a bunch of light on midfielders who look great when they are on but come up short when pressure is applied.

Dempsey is the only real skinny bloke you mentioned IMO. Davey and Jetta are around the correct weights for their height, and well....Houli is like 88kg of muscle standing at 184 so i dont know where you got the idea he was skinny, also, i don't really think Winderlich is very skinny anymore, he's bulked a bit from last year again it looks like Lovett has also bulked up again so wouldn't be classified as skinny anymore aswell.

Picture taken form Bomberblitz

Lack of speed was the one i was waiting for Essendon supporters to comment on, we have an extremely quick team now, more of those blokes who have that speed and will probably be introduced into the team soon and those who think we lack speed will get to see what great speed we actually have.

 

[Longy413]

Dempsey, Jetta, Davey, Houli.....i would describe these blokes as quick skinny blokes.....already have Lovett and Winderlich in the team too.

Will be like T.Wallet teams i reckon, with a bunch of light on midfielders who look great when they are on but come up short when pressure is applied.

If you think Jetta and Houli are skinny, you're out of your depth.
Houli is one of the best defined young footballers that Essendon has ever drafted. To put it simply, he's a tank.

Jetta isn't light and has bulked up again, significantly.

You don't know much about Winderlich do you?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Houli is one of the best defined young footballers that Essendon has ever drafted. To put it simply, he's a tank.

The modern day Mark McGough.

 

[doppleganger]

If you think Jetta and Houli are skinny, you're out of your depth.
Houli is one of the best defined young footballers that Essendon has ever drafted. To put it simply, he's a tank.

Jetta isn't light and has bulked up again, significantly.

You don't know much about Winderlich do you?

Fair enough the term skinny is probably incorrect for AFL footballers as all of them develop some form of definition.

Perhaps the term undersized may be better fitting.

L.Davis has a fair bit of definition.....i still class him as an undersized player.

Winders yeah he is a massive unit, according to the dons website Dyson weighs more than him!

The dons seem to have too many small speedy blokes now.

 

[Schmick]

Fair enough the term skinny is probably incorrect for AFL footballers as all of them develop some form of definition.

Perhaps the term undersized may be better fitting.

L.Davis has a fair bit of definition.....i still class him as an undersized player.

Winders yeah he is a massive unit, according to the dons website Dyson weighs more than him!

The dons seem to have too many small speedy blokes now.

1. I really don't see how you can class L.Davis as undersized as he looked to be very bulky this year and undersized is the last thing i call him.

2. Winderlich weight at 81 has probably not been updated or something as he is probably about the same size as Judd, so he'd be weighing in around mid 80's like Judd.

It may be just me, but to me Winderlich doesnt look very undersized in recent times.

 

[Longy413]

The modern day Mark McGough.

He has nothing in common with McGough.

Winders yeah he is a massive unit, according to the dons website Dyson weighs more than him!

The dons seem to have too many small speedy blokes now.

You have no idea about Winderlich, do you?

 

[Longy413]

L.Davis has a fair bit of definition.....i still class him as an undersized player.

That's fine, you're just wrong.

Undersized for what?
The ruck?

 

[KING-JAMES]

1. I really don't see how you can class L.Davis as undersized as he looked to be very bulky this year and undersized is the last thing i call him.

2. Winderlich weight at 81 has probably not been updated or something as he is probably about the same size as Judd, so he'd be weighing in around mid 80's like Judd.

It may be just me, but to me Winderlich doesnt look very undersized in recent times.

Winderlich

Not a bad body for a skinny bloke is it. Bachar is a ball of muscle as well, works his arse off.

 

[doppleganger]

1. I really don't see how you can class L.Davis as undersized as he looked to be very bulky this year and undersized is the last thing i call him.

well i would, as i would the other players i named from the dons.

you asked for opinions on the dons strenghts and weaknesses.

Strength is clearly having a spine full of champions.

Weakness is that the rest of the team aint that crash hot.

Pace aint an issue, if the dons win more of the ball than their opponents they wont look slow.

 

[doppleganger]

He has nothing in common with McGough.



You have no idea about Winderlich, do you?

Hilarious, dons fans are posting up pics of a bloke in the middle of a pre-season of weights.....even bloody Gibbs looks ripped atm for fecks sake.

Winders aint a big bodied midfielder, he is a dasher who breaks the lines

 

[TheCoach]

This topic may have seemed a good idea and I'm sure the OP would've liked some informative input about his club, but lets be honest here, no opposition supporter really knows much about a club other than theirs no matter how much they claim to do so. There's so much behind-the-scenes info on radio, tv, newspapers, websites etc that opposition supporters couldn't care less about unless its their own.
There are many inconsistancies throughout and it just goes to show how little ANY supporter knows of ANY OPPOSITION club. Some people have given a good effort on how they 'perceive' the EFC, and thats the objective here, but what it is really interestingly shown here is how the club is 'perceived' by the little knowledge (Knowlege accessible) of opposition supporters.. and that goes for any team, not just the one in question. The OP may have better luck asking his own.

So the general consensus is that Essendon are slow and old and will continue to be old this year with not much improvement. I'm sure Essendon supporters who have BomberTV and attend training would beg to differ but it won't matter. The proof will be in the pudding. Whether Bomber supporters have overcooked the pudding or not will be for all to see after 10 rounds.

 

[doppleganger]

That's fine, you're just wrong.

Undersized for what?
The ruck?

L.Davis is listed as 178cm and 79kgs.......that is small in my book.

 

[Longy413]

Hilarious, dons fans are posting up pics of a bloke in the middle of a pre-season of weights.....even bloody Gibbs looks ripped atm for fecks sake.

Winders aint a big bodied midfielder, he is a dasher who breaks the lines

He's put on 5kg's.
That makes him the same height and 1kg heavier than Bartel.
Is he undersized??

And he isn't a dasher, who breaks lines.

He likes it in close, or runs to space.

L.Davis is listed as 178cm and 79kgs.......that is small in my book.

So he's small, not undersized?

 

[angus6]

Strengths:
Spine: Pretty obvious but it is the current strenght of the team, experienced and still playing great footy. The club is starting to recruit players for their replacement with the back half covered with ryder, daniher and pears and the forward line of gumby and neagle. Make recruit one more year for talls

Forward line: more like forward line pressure. the presure on the opposition to clear the ball is huge is will continue to be a strenght for a number of years

Weakness: Midfield. Have some good young players coming through there but at the moment are still a little while away. This is the area we lack experience. For whatever reason due to fitness/form our experience blockes have not been able to play there best footy on a regular basis. Our midfield should be headed by JJ, Rama, McVeigh, Peverill and Watson and then complimented by stanton, winderlich, monfries hislop dempsey etc.

At the moment its been headed by mcveigh and watson with the odd cameo from peverill and then the rest. We need to get the experienced blokes on the park more and fast track the younger blokes so they are leading the midfield.

Ruck: Ruck division is still fairly young. hille i believe will get better as he gets older and laycock showed improvement last year and could be the key in years to come rucking and playing forward

At the moment our mids are probable about 3 years away from becoming A+ graders but hopefully by then our spine has still got some form

 

[KING-JAMES]

Hilarious, dons fans are posting up pics of a bloke in the middle of a pre-season of weights.....even bloody Gibbs looks ripped atm for fecks sake.

Winders aint a big bodied midfielder, he is a dasher who breaks the lines

Thing is Winderlich is a tall midfielder who is far from skinny these days. He can go in and under to win the ball or run to space and then break the lines through the middle. His got the perfect body for a player of his height, not just in the preseason.

 

[cammo78]

Strengths - Their Bank Balance & Supporter Base
Weaknesses - Their Playing List & Coach

 

[doppleganger]

He's put on 5kg's.

Well there you go, aint been monitoring playing weights of essendon players over the summer. In 07 i reckon he was a lightweight dasher.

That makes him the same height and 1kg heavier than Bartel.
Is he undersized??

What height/weight measurements are you using for Bartel? Perhaps he has put on 5kg of muscle over the pre-season too?

And Bartel has class.....

And he isn't a dasher, who breaks lines.

He likes it in close, or runs to space.

???

Id compare Winderlich to B.Johnson from the woods as a bloke who likes to get the ball run and carry it over a line.

So he's small, not undersized?

Small, undersized.....same thing to me

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Strengths - Their Bank Balance & Supporter Base
Weaknesses - Their Playing List & Coach

what has the coach done wrong to warrant that view?

 

[SirJimi05]

Voss wasn't quick, S.Black aint quick, Buckley wasn't quick, Burns aint quick, Goodwin aint quick, Edwards aint quick, Ricciuto wasn't quick, Kirk aint quick, West aint quick

being fast is the most over-rated part of modern footy

a team looks quick when they have the pill, when they dont have the pill they look slow.....it is that simple

Thank god for that! According to about 98% of non Essendon supporters reckon are dead slow so i take comfort in your statment. Cheers.

 

[SirJimi05]

Weaknesses
Slow. Midfield.

Strengths
Lucas. Lloyd. Fletcher.

How can you rate them as our strengths when you rated them 38, 41 and 50+ (not even listed) in you're top 50. Surely you don't regard them as being too much of a strength for us if they are this bad?

Or are you changing your views to suit an argument again?

 

[doppleganger]

Thank god for that! According to about 98% of non Essendon supporters reckon are dead slow so i take comfort in your statment. Cheers.

Yeah, Essendon aint slow anymore....but IMO being fast doesn't mean they will all of a sudden become a great team.