Everyone might as well give up hope of a new stadium under the current SANFL regime

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Did anyone hear one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard from Whicker ??

When he was on 5AA they were speaking about a new stadium in the city etc and they said to Whicker that if money was no object obviously a new stadium in the city would be ideal and Whicker said that he didnt agree

He claims that Football Park is perfectly positioned in the fastest growing area in Adelaide, yet didnt they claim the same thing about Waverley but that did save Waverley.

He claimed that if money was no object he would rather spend money keeping football park up to date instead of building somewhere near in the city. KG and Cornes didnt agree and I dont think anyone else listening would have agreed either.

The SANFL commission's sad devotion to that old antiquated stadium is worrying.

I know the money isnt there to build something new, but the day will have to eventually come along within the next 15-20 years when some serious decisions have to be made. Hopefully those that consider football park to be their legacy are not there to let their biais influence the decisions that will have to be made.

Its just another example of how far out of the loop the SANFL actually are with what is required.

 

[Orange]

And where exactly in the city do you think this stadium should be built? The intersection of North Terrace and King William Street? We can pop in to the pie cart on the way home. There's the small matter of carparks, but at least that won't matter for Port games. West Lakes is an ideal location - it's 20 minutes from town, halfway between North and South of the City, and the Western Suburbs is the heartland of SA footy. Waverley was miles out.

 

[crowugoodthing]

Victoria Park.

If guess if you have the same people in charge for 100 years what's going to change?

 

[crowugoodthing]

And where exactly in the city do you think this stadium should be built? The intersection of North Terrace and King William Street? We can pop in to the pie cart on the way home. There's the small matter of carparks, but at least that won't matter for Port games. West Lakes is an ideal location - it's 20 minutes from town, halfway between North and South of the City, and the Western Suburbs is the heartland of SA footy. Waverley was miles out.

You seriously cannot tell me that you think the current location is ideal.

 

[Mad Dog]

how is this still an issue

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 15-20 YEARS

 

[Paralowiepower]

Bugger I missed it. Whicker is a clown.
As the radio advert goes with the new hospital, it is easiler to build from scratch instead of pumping wasted money into a tired old stadium.

I still think the Clipsal site is big enough, walking distance from the city, rail, better roads (Port Road)


Time to start planning now, even if it's in 10 years time.

Don't plan now, then there will be no land available, come time.

 

[Paralowiepower]

how is this still an issue

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 15-20 YEARS

Not with Whicker around anyway.

 

[Orange]

You seriously cannot tell me that you think the current location is ideal.

Its not perfect, no. Adelaide oval would be great. But that would be the ruin of that ground - and i would oppose that. So where would you have it?

 

[crowugoodthing]

Its not perfect, no. Adelaide oval would be great. But that would be the ruin of that ground - and i would oppose that. So where would you have it?

Paralowiepower is correct IMO Clipsal site is the spot.

 

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And where exactly in the city do you think this stadium should be built? The intersection of North Terrace and King William Street? We can pop in to the pie cart on the way home. There's the small matter of carparks, but at least that won't matter for Port games. West Lakes is an ideal location - it's 20 minutes from town, halfway between North and South of the City, and the Western Suburbs is the heartland of SA footy. Waverley was miles out.

There is parking everywhere in the city and North Adelaide, but the idea with moving into the city is getting more people there by public transport the site the hospital is going on would have been ideal.

The only reason why people have to drive there in the first place is that Football Park is so poorly located.

Suburban grounds with poor travel infrastructure arent ideal. Waverely is a perfect parallel to football park, was never going to work too isolated not central with poor public transport infrastructure.

 

[Mong]

Ha, I didn't have any hope to start with.

Something like that would have to be Government driven and the AFL would have to get involved. Even then the SANFL would resist until the bitter end.

And Orange, how can you say AAMI Stad. is in an ideal location? It is on the western most extremety of Greater Metropolitan Adelaide. It is not halfway between North and South, it is a long way from the southern suburbs. The city is central. West Lakes is, as you say, 20 minutes out of the city. It doesn't cater very well to public transport and it is in the middle of suburbia. And that is an important issue because the trend is for people to want a full day/night of entertainment in our around the same place. There is nothing else in West Lakes. And while crowds here are disappointing (relative to membership numbers) interstate crowds are constantly improving. Adelaide is the only AFL city that doesn't have a stadiujm central to the city. The trend is there. Football in Adelaide is being left behind in that regard.

You asked where in/near the city it could go. Well, how about near the Keswick Railstation, where Santos Stadium is. What an absolutely prime bit of real estate that area is and all it's used for is a tiny athletics track. And across the road a 3000 seat netball facility. As for parking, well the city has lots of parking facilities aswell as existing public transport including a railway track that runs just metres alongside it. Parklands may also be used for parking like they are for the Royal Show.

 

[Orange]

Bugger I missed it. Whicker is a clown.
As the radio advert goes with the new hospital, it is easiler to build from scratch instead of pumping wasted money into a tired old stadium.

I still think the Clipsal site is big enough, walking distance from the city, rail, better roads (Port Road)


Time to start planning now, even if it's in 10 years time.

Don't plan now, then there will be no land available, come time.

And the residents of Bowden and Brompton wil be happy with that do you think? there'll be no parking problems, the council will be on board, the taxpayers of SA will be happy to fork out a couple of hundred mill. Better public transport to footy park's the answer.

 

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Bugger I missed it. Whicker is a clown.
As the radio advert goes with the new hospital, it is easiler to build from scratch instead of pumping wasted money into a tired old stadium.

I still think the Clipsal site is big enough, walking distance from the city, rail, better roads (Port Road)


Time to start planning now, even if it's in 10 years time.

Don't plan now, then there will be no land available, come time.

Yeah a dead set clown, still living in the 1970s unfortunately it just perfectly sits with the South Australian mentality.

They cant work out that 30 years later what was a good idea at the time is no longer suitable.

I understand that they cant afford a new new, BUT for him to say that if money was no object that having a stadium in the heart of the city isnt idea is a sign that Whicker requires a labotomy.

 

[CarnCrows]

"If money were not an issue" he still thinks it is in the ideal location - what a crock!

If money were not an issue the CBD woud be the obvious choice. Someone really has their blinkers on

 

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this is just an example of what holds South Australia back. no vision, no balls. we need a new stadium but we're obviously never going to get it now.

should be where the new hospital is going to be built tbh.

 

[Mong]

Paralowiepower is correct IMO Clipsal site is the spot.

I disagree. It is just that little bit too far out of the city that it may as well be in suburbia. I mean, look at Hindmarsh Stadium which is near there. That doesn't capitalise on its proximity to the city because people won't walk that far. Thus it has terrible parking problems. Move it to the city to take advantage of the facilities that the city offers or there is no point at all.

 

[Paralowiepower]

And the residents of Bowden and Brompton wil be happy with that do you think? there'll be no parking problems, the council will be on board, the taxpayers of SA will be happy to fork out a couple of hundred mill. Better public transport to footy park's the answer.

Compared to what, the residents of West Lakes? That area is mainly industrial, has the entertainment Centre and Hindmarsh Stadium close by. Plenty of pubs around for pre match drinks too. Less people would drive to the stadium which would be a winner.

 

[Paralowiepower]

I disagree. It is just that little bit too far out of the city that it may as well be in suburbia. I mean, look at Hindmarsh Stadium which is near there. That doesn't capitalise on its proximity to the city because people won't walk that far. Thus it has terrible parking problems. Move it to the city to take advantage of the facilities that the city offers or there is no point at all.

I just threw up the Clipsal site as land will soon be available. If it can be built closer, do it. It just has to remain the property of the SANFL so the money stays in Football.

 

[Orange]

Compared to what, the residents of West Lakes? That area is mainly industrial, has the entertainment Centre and Hindmarsh Stadium close by. Plenty of pubs around for pre match drinks too. Less people would drive to the stadium which would be a winner.

Im not sure if less people would drive to the stadium. We're the fattest nation on earth and most of us dont even walk to the shops, and certainly most people don't use public transport. There is public transport to west lakes. The only public transport that has a chance is trains stopping within 5-10 minutes walk, 15 at the most.

Lights, traffic, action in inner city Adelaide 2007 is a very different proposition from lights in West Lakes 20 odd years ago.

Santos, keswick might be chance - but what are the consequences for whats already there and what needs to be moved. Otherwise its just wishful thinking.

 

[Mong]

Santos, keswick might be chance - but what are the consequences for whats already there and what needs to be moved. Otherwise its just wishful thinking.

This whole subject is wishful thinking. I don't think anyone would deny that.

 

[Paralowiepower]

Not suggesting the Clipsal site is the best spot, but surely it would be no further than what the MCG is to the Melbourne CBD. If anything it would be closer.

 

[Jakko]

The SANFL goons should be made to spend a few games every year in a cramped outer at AAMI, not in their prime corporate areas having a glass of wine and a seafood platter.

Going to the MCG was a real eye opener. I never believed the theory of people experiencing better stadiums interstate and not wanting to go to AAMI, but now I do.

 

[crowugoodthing]

I disagree. It is just that little bit too far out of the city that it may as well be in suburbia. I mean, look at Hindmarsh Stadium which is near there. That doesn't capitalise on its proximity to the city because people won't walk that far. Thus it has terrible parking problems. Move it to the city to take advantage of the facilities that the city offers or there is no point at all.

Ok how about Wayville showgrounds?

 

[Mong]

Not suggesting the Clipsal site is the best spot, but surely it would be no further than what the MCG is to the Melbourne CBD. If anything it would be closer.

Using the 'ruler' function on Google Earth (gee I love Google Earth ) the MCG is precisely 0.75 km from Flinders Street while the Clipsal site is 1.75 km's from the West Terrace/North Terrace intersection (in a straight line).

I don't mind walking 2kms but as Orange pointed out earlier many would mind.

 

[roger explosion]

Santos Stadium ftw. that place is sorely out of date anyway. all you need is a rail link (which is there, isn't it) and Robert's your father's brother.