Fantasy Hockey 2010-11

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Buckets007 said:
not really, i've been looking around but i might just watch as many games as i can this season and find a team a like that way. I'm not one to jump on the bandwagon though
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I think there is still room on the Islanders bandwagon. Tavares will be a genuine star soon.

PS. I am serious.
 
Bradesmaen said:
No room left on the Pens bandwagon, its already over and tanking for another draft pick ;)
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Yahoo is up and running, let's get this party started. With regards to the keeper league ......

I've played in a few keeper leagues and I reckon something like the following settings are worth considering. Rookies add the prospect element without having to manage a full farm team.

Let me know your thoughts. As I said before I am happy to be commish, but don't want to steal your thunder JC - great idea :D

12 teams - HTH - 24-man rosters

3C, 3RW, 3LW, 1F, 1W, 4D, 2UTIL, 2G, 5 Bench (2 IR)

Categories
G A PIM +/- PPP SHP GWG SOG
W Saves SV% GAA SO

Keeper rule
- you can keep 8 players from your team
- you can also keep an additional 3 players who as rookies
- in total, you can keep 11 players (8 veterans + 3 rookies) out of 24 players
- if you decided to keep only 8 veterans and no rookie players, those 3 rookie spots are treated as draft picks for you to fill up the missing spots AFTER the free agent draft

Rookie Players
- 3 rookies can be kept on top of the original 8 keepers in a team
- a player is only considered as a rookie player if he played in two or
less seasons prior to the start of a new season
- a season is considered to be 22 games or more

Drafting order
To avoid any team giving up during this season to get better draft order next year, draft picks will be determined based on playoff performance.

Top 6 that makes to the playoff - winner of 1st will get 12th overall pick, 2nd will get 11th overall pick etc etc till 7th overall pick for the 6th place winner

Bottom 6 that doesn't make it to the playoff - winner of that bracket will get 1st overall pick (7th place of the league), 8th place will get 2nd overall pic.. etc till 6th overall pick is given to the 6th place winner.
 
Doof, seems you have some experience with keeper leagues which is good, cause i have none.

Love the playoffs equating to draft picks idea.
Roster set up is cool.
Cats seem fine to me, although i like the FW stat.
We will see what everyone else thinks with regards to the keepers. In your experience is having more or less keepers better? Also i was quite keen on the farm team, but again we can see what the others like
 
_JC_ said:
Doof, seems you have some experience with keeper leagues which is good, cause i have none.
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_JC_ said:
We will see what everyone else thinks with regards to the keepers. In your experience is having more or less keepers better? Also i was quite keen on the farm team, but again we can see what the others like
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I have some a couple of years experience, but only in relatively simple keepers rather than keepers with extensive farm teams or dynasty leagues.

If this is the first keeper for most, then setting the rules for farm team management and drafting can certainly complicate a league a fair bit.

The optimal number of keepers really gets determined by how many teams are in the league. I think you tend to want to get to the point where most teams can easily pick the majority of their keepers, but the last one or two is a difficult decision and the players dropped can actually add value to the teams drafting in the first round. With the settings we use above the first round tends to be a mix of solid veterans and the top 3-5 rookies. I reckon it is a good mix.

_JC_ said:
Love the playoffs equating to draft picks idea.
Roster set up is cool.
Cats seem fine to me, although i like the FW stat.
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Yeah. Having the consolation playoffs count is great.

Agree re FW - it certainly adds value to centres, who suffer because there are so many of them.

Let's see what others think
 
How many people are going to be in the league? I think that should have a bearing on how many players we take. If we have 14 people and we have a 24 man roster, that's around 340 players drafted.

Now that would mean there will be a chunk of fairly ordinary players on our lists. Tyler Kennedy is a good young player and as a Penguin I love him but I'm not sure I want to have to draft him onto my list to make up the numbers.

I'm just saying. 30 teams with 20 players playing at any one time makes 600 players and do we really want to draft more than half of them?
 
TheStinger said:
How many people are going to be in the league? I think that should have a bearing on how many players we take. If we have 14 people and we have a 24 man roster, that's around 340 players drafted.

Now that would mean there will be a chunk of fairly ordinary players on our lists. Tyler Kennedy is a good young player and as a Penguin I love him but I'm not sure I want to have to draft him onto my list to make up the numbers.

I'm just saying. 30 teams with 20 players playing at any one time makes 600 players and do we really want to draft more than half of them?
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You are spot on. However, I think it would suggest that if we were to have too many participants for a single league of around 12, then we should have a 2nd division like the standard league. 30 teams is completely unmanageable and shrinks the talent pool available to each team dramatically.
 
doofdoof said:
You are spot on. However, I think it would suggest that if we were to have too many participants for a single league of around 12, then we should have a 2nd division like the standard league. 30 teams is completely unmanageable and shrinks the talent pool available to each team dramatically.
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I didn't mean 30 teams in our league, just the 30 NHL teams. If there are 600 players in the NHL and we draft about 340 of them, well there will be some very crappy, low scoring players on our lists.

But 2 divisions sounds alright.
 
Gotcha. Regardless, if we have more than 12 teams in the league then we should probably reduce both the total roster size and the number of starting positions. That was just an example to use as a framework
 
I'll hit this thread up a bit later, but I'm just about to go out, but the rules were pretty clearly set for the BFFHL last year with our promotion/relegation system. We've had a very solid core of players in that league for the last five or so years, so let's not lose sight of that.

I'm up for a keeper league too. I already play in one with Marns and JC#8. Good fun.
 

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Good point, VC. It's always good to have new people joining up and wanting to be a part of the fantasy hockey, but for the sake of fairness (especially those who stuck it out to do well in the second division), do we really want to start all over again? Stinger makes a good point about league numbers and the watering down of talent, and I'm sure this played a part in wanting to split it into two leagues.

As per last season's fantasy hockey thread:
Peter Sidorkiewicz said:
Div 2 regular season winner and playoff winner (or playoff runner up, if playoff winner is the same as regular season winner) gets promoted.

Div 1 regular season 11th and 12th gets relegated.
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And the standings of Div 1 from last year were as follows:

*1. That Team 355
*2. doof 324
*3. TheSwedishChefs 315
*4. Stellar Stastny 288
*5. Lethals Devils 278
*6. Captain Crash 267
7. Touché Duchene 267
8. Peter Sidorkiewicz 261
9. Wolverines 255
10. The 87s 244
11. Maddog 232
12. The Mighty Pucks 190
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So, if Maddog and TMP are going to be in fantasy hockey this season, I'd say they will be in Div 2, with the top two teams from Div 2 to be brought up to Div 1 - going to need confirmation on who these two will be.
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Personally, I'm definitely down for the basic league again, but not the keeper one. I'm in a few various leagues, and too many will do my head in.
 
Here is what the standings were:

1. Two Blues 181-96-48 .631 410 4-8-1 11 39 2. Scurvy Dogs 174-105-46 .606 394 12-0-1 12 32 3. EAST BC 168-112-45 .586 381 8-4-1 3 13 4. Rampagers 163-122-40 .563 366 8-3-2 9 17 5. Talk to Me Goose 158-129-38 .545 354 4-5-4 8 17 6. Thundercats 144-134-47 .515 335 12-1-0 2 - 7. Insert Name Here 127-152-46 .462 300 6-6-1 10 6 8. Dud McManus 128-157-40 .455 296 0-12-1 1 30 9. Mitchhh 127-157-41 .454 295 6-6-1 7 1 10. Stinger's Stepdads 120-159-46 .440 286 5-4-4 4 3 11. Crackers 112-172-41 .408 265 1-12-0 6 4 12. The Hueys 86-193-46 .335 218 3-8-2 5 2

Not sure if that is reg season or playoffs(did we even have playoffs?)

I am East BC, not sure who the top 2 lads were.

Regarding the keeper settings, that seems like a lot of players, I know you need to stock rookies and will have some guys who are never getting a game, just seems a lot.

Scoring cats look good, and just to clarify, SOG is shots on goal, not shoot out goals, right?
 
scottyjc said:
Here is what the standings were:

1. Two Blues 181-96-48 .631 410 4-8-1 11 39 2. Scurvy Dogs 174-105-46 .606 394 12-0-1 12 32 3. EAST BC 168-112-45 .586 381 8-4-1 3 13 4. Rampagers 163-122-40 .563 366 8-3-2 9 17 5. Talk to Me Goose 158-129-38 .545 354 4-5-4 8 17 6. Thundercats 144-134-47 .515 335 12-1-0 2 - 7. Insert Name Here 127-152-46 .462 300 6-6-1 10 6 8. Dud McManus 128-157-40 .455 296 0-12-1 1 30 9. Mitchhh 127-157-41 .454 295 6-6-1 7 1 10. Stinger's Stepdads 120-159-46 .440 286 5-4-4 4 3 11. Crackers 112-172-41 .408 265 1-12-0 6 4 12. The Hueys 86-193-46 .335 218 3-8-2 5 2

Not sure if that is reg season or playoffs(did we even have playoffs?)

I am East BC, not sure who the top 2 lads were.

Regarding the keeper settings, that seems like a lot of players, I know you need to stock rookies and will have some guys who are never getting a game, just seems a lot.

Scoring cats look good, and just to clarify, SOG is shots on goal, not shoot out goals, right?
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We didn't have playoffs in Div 2, the two top players were Two Blue Tigers and me.

Having extra players in a keeper league is important, one you use the last few players on your team to pick young guys who may not play for a year or two but you think are going to be good. Secondly to cover for injuries as keeping players on your list is much more important.

Yeah shots on goal is correct.
 
I was last season's winner of Div 2 with my Two Blues team. Was hoping that that result would gain me a place in Div 1 Head To Head.
Not really too interested in keeper league though..
 
OK, so I've renewed the BFFHL for the year and invites with a password will have been sent to the emails of the Top 10 teams from last year. The Mighty Pucks (Cassius Clay) and Maddog have been relegated and can join Div 2 if they wish.

I'm just about to PM Two Blue Tiger and JC with the details for joining the league, given that they're the two promoted from Div 2. If for whatever reason anyone else doesn't want to join the spot will be offered to scottyjc because of his third placed finish in Div 2 and he's already expressed interest for this year.

Just looking through the options and I can actually create a second division, which I think would be pretty cool. Last year we ran two leagues independent of each other, but I could actually have a second division of BFFHL with a separate draft. That way we could better manage promotion/relegation in the future and all of the settings could be the same for the two divisions. What are everyone's thoughts on that?
 
Thanks VC. I might need an invite re-sent if you could, because Yahoo deactivated by mail account.

EDIT: Scrap that, I just saw that the invites are on the main page of the fantasy hockey site, as opposed to in the mail.
 

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